Reduced recoil 7-08 loads

[Jimbeaux82]

Does any of our esteemed posters have a good reduced recoil load for the 7-08, say using a 120 gr bullet at around 2400 fps? I am trying to find some data to work one up for a youth rifle.

Tia

Jimbeaux

 

[Electron]

Same situation here, I just ordered 120 grain Sierra Pro Hunter bullets from Powder Valley for grandson. Looks like BenchMark may be a light charge according to Sierra #5 manual.

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[hunter24605]

Back when my daughter first started with her 7-08, I looked into this and Hodgdon recommended H4895 for this purpose, and used to have a downloadable PDF for H4895 reduced loads. It wasn't on the "load data" page, but the main home page. I can't recall exactly, but I think it was a 60% rule for reduced loads. Might look at Hodgdon site or reach out to them.

Found it:
https://imrpowder.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/h4895-reduced-rifle-loads.pdf

 

[JD338]

Jim,
I concur with the suggestion to use Hodgdon reduced loads. I would also add to use both ear plugs and muffs to ensure that the young shooter doesn't have to worry about muzzle blast.

JD338

 

[Electron]

Looks like I need some H4895, hope it is available. Thank you gentlemen.

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[Gunner46]

Yep, H4895, fur sure. AND make sure the rifle has a nice absorbing recoil pad, not just a POS plastic butt plate.

 

[Electron]

Yeh I bought him the Savage Lightweight Storm with adjustable LOP and a decent recoil pad. Sweet little rifle for the price.

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[hunter24605]

Yeh I bought him the Savage Lightweight Storm with adjustable LOP and a decent recoil pad. Sweet little rifle for the price.

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Not the Storm, but I have a Savage High Country that has the adjustable LOP and check risers, its a really nice system..

They stick out like a bandaged thumb, but my BIL got a clamp-on muzzle brake for my nephew from Whit Machine for his 308 that took about all the recoil and rise out of it, and made it a joy to shoot. But its obnoxiously loud.

 

[noslerpartition]

Got the storm in 6,5 Creedmoor.
Love that gun.
Sorry - no help with reduced loads in 7-08...

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[ShadeTree]

Not speaking from experience but H4895 would be the first place I'd look as well. Running some numbers based off Hodgdon's data, I'd say around 31-32 gr's would put you in the 2400 range if that's what you're looking for.

35 gr's should get you closer to 2600. Both will kick less than most 243 loads.

 

[AFG270]

Hope this helps. I never used H4895, just used the starting load of Varget with 120g BT at around 2700 to 2750 out of a 20 " barrel.

https://imrpowder.com/wp-content/upload ... -loads.pdf

 

[RL338]

I use Blue Dot for a reduce in my 7-08 Savage Striker. Running 140gr VLDs @ 2000 fps. Blue Dot requires a lot of attention so no double charge.

 

[Jimbeaux82]

Thanks to those who posted. The 60% rule with H4895 should get me where I want to be. I assume that would work just as well with IMR 4895.

Jimbeaux

 

[AFG270]

Thanks to those who posted. The 60% rule with H4895 should get me where I want to be. I assume that would work just as well with IMR 4895.

Jimbeaux

Jim, I wouldn't assume anything with gunpowder, give Hodgdon's a call, their number is list at the bottom of that page.

 

[Guy Miner]

Thanks to those who posted. The 60% rule with H4895 should get me where I want to be. I assume that would work just as well with IMR 4895.

Jimbeaux

Jim, I wouldn't assume anything with gunpowder, give Hodgdon's a call, their number is list at the bottom of that page.

Yes!

We often forget anymore that a phone call is still a great way to communicate. Please, call them and ask for their suggestions.

Guy

 

[frankm]

Only use “H” 4895 unless Hodgdon tells you different.

I ve found with numerous cartridges that right at 70% of max charge of H4895 provides significant recoil reduction AND very good accuracy. ( better than 60% load in my experience)

Good Luck!

 

[ReloadKy]

I used 40gr H4895 and a 120 gr nosler ballistic tip in my wife's 7-08. She loves shooting it. My son also shot it and thought it was pretty cool.

 

[jimbires]

in Denise's 7mm-08 I'm loading 39.0 grains H4895 , cci200 primer , rem brass , 120 grain nosler ballistic tip . it shoots under an inch at 100 yards , with a velocity of 2716 FPS . using quickload , the recoil matches a max load 243 , shooting 100 grain bullets .

I've done a fair amount of reduced loads . I use quickload to pick a powder charge by velocity , or recoil . I've never worked with powder charge looking for accuracy on a reduced load . I've been able to get these reduced loads to shoot at an inch or less by working seating depth .

 

[Jimbeaux82]

I just talked to Hodgdon and yes I can substitute IMR 4895 with this same formula. I was quite confident that I could since burn rate is almost identical but as several posters commented you can never be too careful with powder. I am looking for 2400-2500 fps with a 120 gr bullet. I will begin working up today and will post the results as this may help someone else. I am using a H&R Handi-rifle.

Jimbeaux

 

[Electron]

Jimbeaux I would like to hear how this project goes for you, as I will be doing an identical load development for my grandsons Savage storm. My loading room is not yet set up after a retirement move but when the time comes I'm sure your experience will be helpful.

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