RL 22 280 Rem

[hunter24605]

Just wondering if anybody has experience with RL 22 in 280 Rem..It shows a lot of promise in .270, so I figured it should do well in 280. Right now my best is Rl 19 and 4831 a very close second.

If some kindhearted gentleman would run a QL, comparing 19 and 22, it would be great.
Win 70 FW
22" barrel
Hornady Brass
Fed 210
Nos 140 AB

Thanks!

 

[TackDriver284]

Cartridge : .280 Rem.
Bullet : .284, 140, Nosler AccuBond 59992
Useable Case Capaci: 60.113 grain H2O = 3.903 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.331 inch = 84.61 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-19

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   93    51.30   2621    2136   40364  10915     90.9    1.268
-09.0   94    51.87   2652    2186   41690  11067     91.5    1.249
-08.0   95    52.44   2682    2237   43061  11218     92.1    1.230
-07.0   96    53.01   2713    2288   44478  11365     92.7    1.211
-06.0   97    53.58   2744    2340   45946  11509     93.2    1.193
-05.0   98    54.15   2775    2393   47465  11651     93.7    1.175
-04.0   99    54.72   2805    2447   49037  11789     94.2    1.157
-03.0  100    55.29   2836    2501   50664  11923     94.7    1.140  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0  101    55.86   2867    2556   52352  12055     95.2    1.122  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0  102    56.43   2898    2611   54098  12182     95.6    1.105  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  103    57.00   2929    2667   55907  12305     96.1    1.089  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  104    57.57   2960    2724   57783  12425     96.5    1.073  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0  105    58.14   2991    2781   59728  12540     96.8    1.056  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  106    58.71   3022    2839   61745  12651     97.2    1.041  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  107    59.28   3053    2898   63835  12758     97.6    1.025  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  108    59.85   3084    2957   66006  12859     97.9    1.010  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    103    57.00   3084    2956   67114  12373     99.6    1.007  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    103    57.00   2731    2318   45685  11626     88.5    1.193

Cartridge : .280 Rem.
Bullet : .284, 140, Nosler AccuBond 59992
Useable Case Capaci: 60.113 grain H2O = 3.903 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.331 inch = 84.61 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-22

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   95    53.10   2601    2103   37823  11291     89.7    1.309
-09.0   96    53.69   2634    2156   39126  11461     90.3    1.288
-08.0   97    54.28   2666    2210   40480  11628     91.0    1.267
-07.0   98    54.87   2699    2265   41883  11791     91.7    1.246
-06.0   99    55.46   2732    2321   43341  11951     92.3    1.226
-05.0  100    56.05   2765    2377   44855  12107     92.9    1.206
-04.0  101    56.64   2798    2434   46427  12259     93.5    1.186
-03.0  102    57.23   2832    2492   48060  12407     94.0    1.167
-02.0  103    57.82   2865    2551   49759  12551     94.6    1.148
-01.0  104    58.41   2898    2611   51525  12690     95.1    1.130  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  105    59.00   2932    2672   53362  12825     95.6    1.112  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  106    59.59   2965    2733   55274  12954     96.1    1.094  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0  107    60.18   2999    2795   57263  13079     96.5    1.076  ! Near Maximum !
+03.0  108    60.77   3032    2858   59333  13198     96.9    1.059  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  110    61.36   3066    2922   61491  13311     97.3    1.042  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  111    61.95   3099    2986   63741  13418     97.7    1.025  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    105    59.00   3107    3002   65611  12915     99.6    1.019  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    105    59.00   2706    2276   42828  11983     87.0    1.230

 

[hunter24605]

Thank you...Looks like 22 is worth trying, especially if I wanted to work with heavier bullets at some point, although I don't know if a 22" barrel will make much difference between 19 and 22. I Also have some RL 23 and Superformance I'm going to experiment with.

 

[TackDriver284]

Here is a QL selection of powders that has the #5 node. It's the highest node. Max pressure is 58,740 psi and these loads are just under that with good velocity. There are some powders in the list you are interested in trying. That should give you some insight on what you are trying to accomplish. These loads are with the 150 AccuBond LR, the 140 Accubonds were over max trying to get to the highest node so I skipped that unless you want slower velocity which I believe you don't want.

Cartridge : .280 Rem.
Bullet : .284, 150, Nosler AccuBond LR 58734
Useable Case Capaci: 59.185 grain H2O = 3.843 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.330 inch = 84.58 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Barrel Time: 1.127 milliseconds
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

171 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.

Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26                 102.7     60.2     3.90    2943    99.8    55003   13309   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 217                          122.2     65.6     4.25    2934    97.8    54466   13869   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP                          103.2     58.7     3.81    2906    98.1    55056   13146   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP30                        114.0     62.2     4.03    2903    95.9    55063   13337   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2                        114.0     62.2     4.03    2903    95.9    55063   13337   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570                    114.2     65.7     4.26    2901    89.5    54363   14055   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25                 110.7     60.1     3.89    2894    99.4    54311   12832   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2225                        117.5     64.4     4.18    2892    98.2    54037   13421   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Retumbo                    117.5     64.4     4.18    2892    98.2    54037   13421   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H870                       121.0     68.2     4.42    2887    91.9    54481   13789   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60                   92.8     53.1     3.44    2882   100.0    54433   11814   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-33                 115.9     68.6     4.44    2882    89.7    54469   13868   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                    104.6     58.3     3.78    2882    94.6    54884   13111   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                    105.4     61.1     3.96    2880    93.0    55416   13149   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23                 108.2     57.7     3.74    2878   100.0    55641   11935   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22                 105.2     58.0     3.76    2877    96.9    55362   12799   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15                       105.2     58.0     3.76    2877    96.9    55362   12799   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation       105.2     58.0     3.76    2877    96.9    55362   12799   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                     108.0     58.3     3.78    2876    96.7    55420   12804   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15                        108.0     58.3     3.78    2876    96.7    55420   12804   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62                   96.8     55.3     3.59    2873    99.8    57323   11946   1.128  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70                   99.0     57.5     3.73    2872    98.4    54181   12706   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 80                  116.9     69.2     4.48    2872    90.2    54272   13831   1.128  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17                            92.3     52.8     3.42    2871   100.0    55213   11759   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17                  92.3     52.8     3.42    2871   100.0    55213   11759   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                       97.6     53.3     3.45    2868    99.9    58800   11656   1.127  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S365                        99.7     54.1     3.51    2866   100.0    56728   11293   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16                  99.4     52.8     3.42    2865   100.0    56469   11671   1.128  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12                  107.0     62.3     4.04    2860    95.3    54187   12922   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517                107.2     62.4     4.04    2859    95.2    54182   12932   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                       102.6     57.5     3.73    2850    94.8    54225   12651   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                           108.5     57.5     3.73    2850    94.8    54225   12651   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S071                         113.2     58.4     3.78    2849    99.3    58987   11651   1.127  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 3100                      107.1     58.4     3.78    2849    99.3    58987   11651   1.127  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N550                     94.6     52.8     3.42    2848    99.8    57433   11718   1.128  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511                 94.2     54.7     3.55    2847    99.0    56109   11985   1.128  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                      97.3     54.8     3.55    2846    99.0    56120   11969   1.128  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                      92.0     53.1     3.44    2845    98.4    56442   11960   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                        92.0     53.1     3.44    2845    98.4    56442   11960   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP                           97.2     52.5     3.40    2842    99.8    56906   11583   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation          97.2     52.5     3.40    2842    99.8    56910   11579   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                     104.7     62.2     4.03    2841    97.2    54606   12296   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                           102.6     53.6     3.47    2840    99.9    57867   11390   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                      106.3     57.6     3.73    2840    94.7    55560   12330   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                       102.9     56.8     3.68    2835    98.0    57675   11799   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                        103.4     57.0     3.69    2834    94.6    54195   12476   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19                 101.4     55.3     3.58    2832    96.7    55455   12118   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation         102.2     55.7     3.61    2827    96.7    55530   12035   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3                          91.1     50.2     3.26    2826   100.0    59189   10815   1.128  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 203 old                       91.1     50.2     3.26    2826   100.0    59189   10815   1.128  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2218                        116.4     67.7     4.38    2825    86.7    54318   13764   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903                       93.2     50.3     3.26    2822   100.0    59240   10738   1.127  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
SNPE Vectan SP 11                   90.6     51.0     3.31    2822   100.0    56816   11133   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064                       91.9     49.0     3.18    2819   100.0    61725   10211   1.128  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2209                        100.4     54.5     3.53    2818    96.4    54686   11985   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                        107.4     60.8     3.94    2816    94.6    54129   12349   1.128  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070                          97.3     52.5     3.40    2816    98.7    58141   11415   1.127  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation        97.7     54.1     3.51    2815    98.2    57060   11549   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                        90.1     50.2     3.26    2814    99.7    58054   11170   1.128  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2217                        112.9     60.9     3.95    2814    94.6    54150   12311   1.128  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000                      112.9     60.9     3.95    2814    94.6    54150   12311   1.128  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 13                  125.0     69.7     4.52    2811    88.6    55278   12521   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation           99.3     54.2     3.51    2810    96.5    55672   11786   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204                           96.2     54.2     3.51    2810    96.5    55672   11786   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                         99.3     54.2     3.51    2810    96.5    55672   11786   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                 99.8     52.7     3.41    2808   100.0    56669   10708   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355                        92.9     49.6     3.21    2807   100.0    58556   10706   1.127  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation       107.1     59.6     3.86    2802    92.1    54728   12150   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N170                    117.9     63.6     4.12    2802    89.1    57277   12031   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165                    107.6     58.1     3.76    2800    97.4    56384   11438   1.128  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520       126.7     70.6     4.58    2797    86.7    55235   12441   1.128  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC                   102.5     56.5     3.66    2796    94.2    55209   11786   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831                      106.6     56.5     3.66    2796    94.2    55209   11786   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065                          96.1     51.3     3.32    2796    99.4    58170   11028   1.127  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester Supreme 780             100.4     57.8     3.74    2795    96.6    55860   11544   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350                       98.9     52.8     3.42    2786    97.8    56340   11237   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S062                          90.0     47.8     3.10    2785   100.0    58692   10284   1.127  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4350                            97.1     52.7     3.41    2785    97.9    56337   11220   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7                          94.6     50.7     3.28    2784    98.0    57554   11129   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907                       94.6     50.7     3.28    2784    98.0    57554   11129   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                        91.6     50.7     3.29    2783    98.0    57562   11122   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                      100.1     53.9     3.49    2783    95.4    56016   11437   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 8700                      124.2     70.7     4.58    2775    87.3    55017   12354   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon US 869                     121.8     70.8     4.59    2774    82.2    55528   12226   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160                    107.1     56.0     3.63    2771    95.4    56242   11248   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361                        99.8     58.0     3.76    2770    94.8    57233   11250   1.128  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon 50BMG                      121.9     67.5     4.37    2769    77.8    55365   12188   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N150                     97.8     50.3     3.26    2766   100.0    58322   10064   1.127  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4064                            91.3     47.1     3.05    2766   100.0    57029   10399   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon VARGET                      90.5     47.8     3.10    2765    99.9    56468   10559   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2208                         90.2     47.8     3.10    2765    99.9    56468   10559   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7 NT ~approximation        90.4     49.8     3.23    2762    98.5    55082   10895   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 24N41                   115.3     67.0     4.34    2762    81.8    55171   12069   1.128  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3 NT ~approximation        92.7     50.2     3.26    2761    99.2    56250   10719   1.128  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2700                       91.9     52.3     3.39    2744    97.9    57920   10528   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N135                     94.6     46.8     3.03    2743   100.0    59542    9323   1.127  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex D100                         113.5     66.6     4.32    2739    83.9    56116   11398   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
NC A3502 ,test only                130.5     69.6     4.51    2635    64.2    56991   10337   1.128  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AS 25 BP                       159.4     29.3     1.90    2162   100.0    70043    4687   1.127  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR TrailBoss                      159.4     29.3     1.90    2162   100.0    70043    4687   1.127  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N32C Tin Star           106.9     29.1     1.89    2153   100.0    70584    4624   1.127  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate Nitro 100                   ???    cannot find match, try to lower shot start pressure  
Lovex D013                           ???    cannot find match, try to lower shot start pressur

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[hunter24605]

Thanks. That'l keep the gears in my head spinning for a while!

 

[BF375]

When RL 22 was introduced i used it to work loads in a my first 280, a custom Mauser, with Shilen barrel. The powder was "new" but similar to MRP,and IIRC was also made by the same company in Sweden.

Coincidentally I worked up to 61 gr in Remington cases with the 140 Sierra, Nosler Partition and Bitterroot and after some shooting , chronographing and loading the same cases, I dropped the charge to 60 gr for 3080 fps in my barrel.

It killed well.

The QL data is interesting....seems I was loading a bit hotter than the 59,000 psi called for by QL, but not by much. I never had any problems with the load in that rifle or the M70 FW that I also had.

 

[preacher]

In my first .280, which also was a Model 77 ( and I bought it in 1977!) I used 55gr Imr 4831, a Rem 9 1/2 primer, Rem cases and the Hornady 139sp. I never clocked it, but I shot my first "long range for me" buck at 276 big steps down a pipeline right of way. DRT! He still had a mouthful of grass! Later in life, I used R22 in a Mountain Rifle reamed to 280 IMP ( 22"bbl) I used 61gr R22 with the 150 BT. It only gained 50fps over the same rifle as a standard .280. I only had issues with that load down in Texas ( around 90 deg) but I had worked the load up higher and cooler here in Utah. I got great results with R19 in a .240 Weatherby ( think 6mm/06) but it pooped out in a 338 wm in colder temps...just the opposite of how R22 acted for me. Its really the same ol, same ol, IF you can, work up your load in the same temps you hunt in. That's the best way, but you can hedge your bet with the Temp stabled powder, i.e. Hogdon Extremes, several others. There is nothing wrong with a 22" .280! Have a ball!

 

[hunter24605]

Supposedly RL 23 is very temp stable..I have about 3/4 of a pound left and I'm hoping to give it a try with the 140 AB to see what it'l do. We can have some pretty wild temp swings around here during deer season sometimes.

 

[BF375]

What's a wild temp swing? :?:

I've killed up in Alberta with RL22 in the 270 and 7 Mag to temps down to 25 below zero.

 

[Wincheringen]

Its my go to powder in the 280. 56 grains with the 150 E Tip at 2900 FPS. Sub half inch at 100 yards. I love it.

 

[hunter24605]

What's a wild temp swing? :?:

I've killed up in Alberta with RL22 in the 270 and 7 Mag to temps down to 25 below zero.

It's not uncommon to start out deer season with sunny and in the 70's* and few days later be snowing and 20* or vice-versa, But for the most part the temps stay pretty stable.

 

[DrMike]

What's a wild temp swing? :?:

I've killed up in Alberta with RL22 in the 270 and 7 Mag to temps down to 25 below zero.

We certainly don't see high temperatures here in northern BC. A day with temps rising to 30 C (86 F) is hot. I have hunted in -35 C temps (-31 F). Don't care to say that it is right chilly at such times, especially when the wind begins to blow. I've used quite a few cartridges charged with RL22. Everything I shot at during such times managed to die (likely due to sheer terror at the thought that Dr. Mike was behind the trigger :lol: ).

 

[BF375]

Dr Mike the shooting/handloading world is in a funk over "temp sensitivity". I swear a lot of it is "monkey see/monkey do" .

I noticed this propensity of cartridges to lose velocity as temps drop years ago and back then prime offenders were single based powders like IMR4350, IMR4831,and WW 760, which was maybe the worst I've seen. I would not load it on a bet and have not used it for years.

Actually double based powders like MRP did not do too badly at all.And RL22 is very similar stuff. I have shot scads of game with R22 in the 270, 7 mag and 300 win mag.

But with all the noise and chronographing the worst I ever saw in velocity loss was about 100 fps,and that was going from load work temps of 80-90 clear down to "0" to minus 10 degrees.

I do not believe any of the stuff I read about temp sensitivity going from summer heat to 20-40 degrees. Anything 10 degrees and up really is not "cold" and if a load cannot behave and a rifle can't stay zeroed in these conditions it is not suitable for any BG hunting IMHO.

 

[DrMike]

I daresay that over the past decade, at least three-quarters of those for whom I have worked up loads requested powders that were not "temperature sensitive." My own cartridges are still using some old standards and delivering some fine accuracy in some pretty brutal cold. Yes, the single base powders do lose velocity with cold temperatures, but such is less noticeable with double base powders. I do verify my loads before hunting in similar temperatures. I do have two caveats--I'm not hunting in high temperatures and I am not really into long-range shooting. I do shoot to longer ranges at the range; but I've never taken an animal beyond about 325 yards.

 

[hunter24605]

I know its been a while, but I finally got around to working with some of the QL data..I'd pretty much settled on RL-22, but curiosity got the best of me and I drug out the 1/2 lb of RL-23..All I could source locally was some Hrndy 154gr Interbonds. 57.3 gr started showing some flattened primers and the speed was 2868 average and a 4 shot group of 1.165" Not stellar by any means, but ok for a deer load around here. Next up is Vihtavuori N560, which I was very surprised to see my local store have. along with N540. It'l be tough to top the Reloder-22 load, but its fun trying!!

 

[mwess1113]

Try some RL 26 with those 154 Hornadys and see what happens?


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[hunter24605]

Try some RL 26 with those 154 Hornadys and see what happens?


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It's on my list to try down the road..Over on another forum a fella had some pretty impressive results with it and 150+ grain bullets in a 280 Rem.

 

[SJB358]

RL16 seems pretty good as well depending on what you find. I've seen good accuracy and 2900's with 150 grain bullets from it.

RL26 and 150's should be a rocket ship in the 280 Remington.

 

[hunter24605]

RL16 seems pretty good as well depending on what you find. I've seen good accuracy and 2900's with 150 grain bullets from it.

RL26 and 150's should be a rocket ship in the 280 Remington.

Trouble is finding Alliant powders locally can be tough, Especially 26, 16, 22, and 19..According to the website, Cabelas has RL-26 in my "local" store which is 100 miles away, but fortunately I'll be going that way Thursday for work, so hopefully I can find some then..

 

[SJB358]

RL16 seems pretty good as well depending on what you find. I've seen good accuracy and 2900's with 150 grain bullets from it.

RL26 and 150's should be a rocket ship in the 280 Remington.

Trouble is finding Alliant powders locally can be tough, Especially 26, 16, 22, and 19..According to the website, Cabelas has RL-26 in my "local" store which is 100 miles away, but fortunately I'll be going that way Thursday for work, so hopefully I can find some then..

Yeah, I have kinda succumbed to just ordering enough to make it worthwhile to pay the HazMat fee, doesn't take much.

If you get to the eastern side of Virginia, Green Top always has a good selection of powders.