Short barrel 243 with 95gr Partitions.

[bteate]

I'm looking for a good hunting load for my daughters 10"twist 18" 243. Anyone tried a similar scenario? I have most common powders and all primers except Rem.

Any real world on game experience with this load would be greatly appreciated. Velocities and accuracy would be also.

My daughter is 10 on the small side. We always use hearing protection while hunting and shooting so a stout load would be ok with brake or suppressed in the future.

Thanks in advance.


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[Dwh7271]

Here's a piece on reduced loads in the 243. Granted, the barrel length is longer than yours but it may give you some starting points.

http://www.wwpowder.com/PDF/Youth Loads.pdf

 

[super-7]

I have loaded some with a starting load s of IMR 4320, 4064, and 4350. I loaded some for neighbours daughter last summer she managed to take a nice WT with it in November.


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[SJB358]

Rl19 and 100 grain Partitions worked excellent for my son in his 20" 243. Speeds are right at 2950 and the accuracy was always under 1" at 100 yards. He took his first few deer with that combo. The 95 grain Partition would likely be the same.

 

[Yosin]

I have a Rem.660, 20" barrel that I've loaded for many years. I have had good velocity and accuracy with IMR4831, CCI Br2 primers and 95gn Partitions. The load is max (from old manuals) but safe in my rifle. Muzzle blast is a little annoying but this load has been effective on deer and antelope and only recovered one bullet. It lost the lead front part which is common to many other partitions from my other calibers. Chronagraph velocity is around 3,000 fps.

 

[bteate]

I have tried up to 40gr of H4350 with velocities of around 2750-2780. SD 31, ES 70+ with accuracy of 1.25-1-5" @100. I would like to get better consistency and accuracy. How about Varget or something faster burning?


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[ElmerThud]

For more than twenty years I hunted red deer in Scotland with my .243 Steyr Mannlicher Stutzen.
It had an 18" barrel.
I used the Nosler 95gn BT driven by 44gns Viht. N160 & Rem 9 1/2 primers.
Great accuracy (1/2" MOA @ 100yds) and assuming correct bullet placement, took some fairly hefty stags with the rifle/load.
I can't recall the MV of the load but it wasn't slow & carried enough energy to take deer out to 200yds just fine.

 

[jimbires]

I used IMR7828 with a 100 gr Partition in my sons 243 . it was a 22" bbl rifle .it shot well and killed deer well . if you try this powder get IMR7828ssc , it'll fit better . if you're trying to reduce the load I'd go with H4895 ,and use the link Dewey posted above . here is a powder chart for your combo . these would be max loads , so start about 4.0 grains lower and work up .


Cartridge : .243 Win.
Bullet : .243, 95, Nosler PART SP 16315
Useable Case Capaci: 49.789 grain H2O = 3.233 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.710 inch = 68.83 mm
Barrel Length : 18.0 inch = 457.2 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 60191 psi, or 415 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 105 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

11 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26 100.8 49.7 3.22 2988 99.7 60191 17040 0.978 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ReloadSwiss RS 60 92.2 44.4 2.88 2963 100.0 60191 15416 0.962 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma MRP 101.6 48.7 3.15 2960 98.0 60191 16844 0.973 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ReloadSwiss RS 70 98.4 48.1 3.12 2957 98.5 60191 16440 0.959 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N560 103.3 48.4 3.14 2947 94.5 60191 16868 0.968 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 7828 SSC 102.0 48.1 3.11 2941 95.1 60191 16441 0.958 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-17 91.2 43.9 2.84 2937 100.0 60191 15315 0.968 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Elcho 17 91.2 43.9 2.84 2937 100.0 60191 15315 0.968 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 103.6 48.1 3.11 2932 96.6 60191 16417 0.972 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Raufoss RA15 103.6 48.1 3.11 2932 96.6 60191 16417 0.972 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-22 103.6 48.1 3.11 2932 96.6 60191 16417 0.972 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate MAGPRO 103.5 50.5 3.27 2929 92.8 60191 16794 0.976 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2213 102.9 47.7 3.09 2927 94.9 60191 16212 0.955 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-16 97.6 43.6 2.83 2916 99.9 60191 15194 0.977 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Magnum 103.3 51.6 3.35 2913 97.4 60191 15806 0.966 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
SNPE Vectan SP 12 105.0 51.4 3.33 2908 95.2 58134 16482 0.979 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 97.6 44.5 2.89 2907 100.0 60191 14671 0.982 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ReloadSwiss RS 62 94.5 45.4 2.94 2904 99.5 60191 15404 0.985 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2209 99.8 45.6 2.95 2904 96.4 60191 15587 0.958 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
PB Clermont PCL 517 105.0 51.4 3.33 2902 95.0 57788 16469 0.981 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518 96.6 45.8 2.97 2902 98.5 60191 15522 0.973 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
PB Clermont PCL 511 92.8 45.4 2.94 2901 98.7 60191 15463 0.973 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester 760 90.6 44.0 2.85 2901 98.0 60191 15488 0.973 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H414 90.6 44.0 2.85 2901 98.0 60191 15488 0.973 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Hunter 95.9 45.4 2.94 2900 98.7 60191 15440 0.973 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R905 104.8 47.7 3.09 2900 94.5 60191 15876 0.971 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-19 100.3 46.0 2.98 2898 96.5 60191 15647 0.967 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 101.0 46.4 3.00 2892 96.5 60191 15529 0.967 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma URP 95.5 43.3 2.81 2891 99.6 60191 15015 0.977 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 95.5 43.4 2.81 2891 99.6 60191 15010 0.977 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-23 105.0 47.1 3.05 2890 99.9 57840 15303 0.995 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 92.7 43.5 2.82 2888 99.5 60191 15118 0.981 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP15 105.0 47.7 3.09 2887 95.9 57599 16200 0.993 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR 105.0 47.7 3.09 2887 95.9 57599 16200 0.993 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 94.7 43.5 2.82 2886 99.6 60191 15062 0.994 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Raufoss RA4 98.3 45.1 2.92 2880 96.3 60191 15261 0.966 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 98.3 45.1 2.92 2880 96.3 60191 15261 0.966 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 204 95.2 45.1 2.92 2880 96.3 60191 15261 0.966 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4831 100.1 44.0 2.85 2874 99.7 60191 14733 0.985 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4831 SC 101.5 47.1 3.05 2871 94.2 60191 15250 0.963 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S385 100.5 46.6 3.02 2865 97.5 60191 15108 0.985 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 98.0 43.5 2.82 2863 100.0 60191 13990 0.975 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 95.9 44.7 2.90 2862 97.8 60191 14888 0.977 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 3100 103.7 47.6 3.08 2855 98.7 60191 14874 0.999 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester Supreme 780 98.9 47.9 3.10 2854 96.4 60191 14847 0.970 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4831 105.0 46.8 3.03 2854 93.9 59062 15158 0.972 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904 99.1 44.8 2.90 2853 95.2 60191 14833 0.966 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AP 2214 105.0 50.0 3.24 2853 94.1 56591 15731 0.984 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070 95.2 43.2 2.80 2853 98.2 60191 14710 0.982 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 7828 105.0 46.8 3.03 2850 93.5 54855 15963 1.001 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903 90.5 41.1 2.66 2848 100.0 60191 13985 0.991 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S355 90.7 40.7 2.64 2845 100.0 60191 13949 0.984 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation 105.0 49.1 3.18 2841 91.6 57523 15457 0.980 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron 102.6 45.8 2.97 2841 94.6 60191 14761 0.965 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R907 93.1 41.9 2.72 2838 97.6 60191 14424 0.974 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP7 93.1 41.9 2.72 2838 97.6 60191 14424 0.974 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4007 SSC 90.1 42.0 2.72 2838 97.6 60191 14413 0.974 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex S065 94.1 42.2 2.74 2837 99.0 60191 14267 0.980 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N165 105.0 47.7 3.09 2829 96.9 58768 14625 0.986 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 105.0 47.9 3.11 2823 98.1 51649 15981 1.037 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361 97.9 47.9 3.10 2815 94.4 60191 14418 0.977 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N160 105.0 46.2 2.99 2815 94.8 58903 14442 0.978 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2 105.0 48.2 3.12 2719 91.6 47121 15752 1.095
Bofors RP30 105.0 48.2 3.12 2719 91.6 47121 15752 1.095
Lovex S071 105.0 45.6 2.95 2718 97.2 51627 14352 1.076 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7977 Enduron 105.0 47.7 3.09 2711 85.0 56595 13497 0.995 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570 105.0 50.8 3.29 2689 83.5 45654 16114 1.106
Hodgdon H1000 105.0 47.7 3.09 2670 90.4 46987 14686 1.077
ADI AR 2217 105.0 47.7 3.09 2670 90.4 46987 14686 1.077
Alliant Reloder-33 105.0 52.3 3.39 2602 82.1 42627 15392 1.147
ADI AR 2225 105.0 48.5 3.14 2593 91.7 41162 15224 1.158
Hodgdon Retumbo 105.0 48.5 3.14 2593 91.7 41162 15224 1.158
Lovex D100 105.0 51.9 3.36 2572 79.0 47105 13268 1.094
ReloadSwiss RS 80 105.0 52.3 3.39 2548 81.2 40543 15031 1.173
Vihtavuori 24N41 105.0 51.3 3.33 2528 74.9 43469 13479 1.128
ADI AR 2218 105.0 51.3 3.33 2520 76.6 40978 14661 1.158
Vihtavuori N170 105.0 47.7 3.09 2517 81.6 42932 13322 1.160
Norma 217 105.0 47.5 3.08 2482 87.5 35928 14814 1.248
Hodgdon H870 105.0 49.8 3.22 2452 80.0 36432 14225 1.239
Alliant Reloder-50 105.0 52.1 3.38 2385 75.2 33793 14118 1.295
Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 105.0 51.0 3.30 2365 68.8 35994 13083 1.291
Hodgdon 50BMG 105.0 48.9 3.17 2338 65.9 35457 12136 1.249
Hodgdon US 869 105.0 51.3 3.33 2333 69.9 35305 12213 1.258
SNPE Vectan SP 13 105.0 49.2 3.19 2279 73.8 32111 12103 1.305
Accurate 8700 105.0 50.3 3.26 2243 71.3 31695 11764 1.314
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520 105.0 49.2 3.19 2215 70.2 30269 11552 1.348
Vihtavuori 20N29 105.0 51.9 3.36 2212 68.1 30387 11698 1.345
NC A3502 ,test only 105.0 47.1 3.05 2065 47.8 28852 8630 1.361
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only 105.0 47.1 3.05 2039 51.8 26961 9098 1.403
V1734 7-multiperf ,test only 105.0 47.1 3.05 1476 23.7 15228 4228 1.779

 

[JD338]

IMR4350 was my go to powder in the 243 Win with the 95 gr PT but I had a 22" barrel.

JD338

 

[SJB358]

I like 7828SSC a bunch with 95 BTs. It's plenty fast and if you dump it slow it's not a problem. RL26 should fit better and give a touch more speeds as well. 90 Accubonds and RL26 scream.

 

[6mm Remington]

I use IMR4350 in my son's Remington Model 600 in 6mm Remington. This rifle has the 18.5" barrel. It shoots very well and if I remember correctly we are getting about 2800 fps. I'll add that is with a 100 gr. Partition. Sorry I left that out.

 

[bboswell]

My Rem 600 has killed a pile of deer shooting 100g Partitions over the years but I were to work a load for a new 243 I would start with Nos BT's

 

[desertcj]

In a short barrel, I'm going to suggest Superformance, and RL 17/RL16, H4350. IMR7828 is very good, but I believe it does better out of a 24"+ barrel.

 

[baltz526]

H414/W760 for the best velocity. Use a Magnum primer

 

[wvbuckbuster]

I load 42.5 grs. of H4350 with a 95 gr BT and Fed210 GM primer out of a 20 in. bbl getting 1/2 in. groups.

 

[MAinAR]

I load 42.5 grs. of H4350 with a 95 gr BT and Fed210 GM primer out of a 20 in. bbl getting 1/2 in. groups.

What velocity is this load giving you?

 

[ShadeTree]

Not a 243 but I shoot a short 18" barreled 6mm and with the lighter bullets 85-90 gr I've found a little faster burning powder like IMR 4064 works better overall than the 4350 in both tighter groups overall and reduced muzzle blast. I don't think I get all the powder burned up with the slower stuff in that short barrel. By all means try the 4350 if you've got it, it's a reliable powder in both 243 and 6mm, but if there's anything you think you can improve on, a faster burning powder might do the trick in your case.

 

[wvbuckbuster]

I load 42.5 grs. of H4350 with a 95 gr BT and Fed210 GM primer out of a 20 in. bbl getting 1/2 in. groups.

What velocity is this load giving you?

 

[wvbuckbuster]

don't know never checked.