I recently acquired a box of these from a guy who sold his .257 and I thought i'd try and work up a load for my 25.06. Problem is I can't find any load data out there anywhere for this combination. I was hoping to work with these during the holidays if I get the chance. I called swift Friday and they said the tech guys were away until after Christmas so they weren't much help. I was wondering if anyone maybe had a swift manual that they could take a look at and share the data for the 25.06 and the 100gr scirocco 2? Also where's a good starting point as to distance to the lands?, i know bonded is a totally different animal than cup and core. If I can find a good load I may give them a try next season on deer, I hope they're not to tough for these NC whitetails. I would really appreciate any and all feedback. Thank You, Mike