The hot 6.5's

Guy,
I wouldn't mess with your 300WSM at all. A Win 70 WSM is pretty easy and cheap to find. I also have a reamer that I'd gladly loan you! 8)

Scott
 
DrMike":197vkkqq said:
1100 Remington Man":197vkkqq said:
I have been wondering what Quick Load would say .264 Win Mag Nosler Brass, Nosler 130gr AB and 140gr Nosler AB would do in a 24 inch barrel with Reloader 26.
Especially since Reloader 26 seems to be giving people some impressive velocities in other cartridges.

Code:
Cartridge          : .264 Win. Mag.
Bullet             : .264, 130, Nosler AccuBond 56902
Useable Case Capaci: 75.520 grain H2O = 4.903 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-26

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   72    53.92   2563    1896   31108  12736     97.2    1.629
-18.0   74    55.27   2629    1995   33364  13068     98.1    1.588
-16.0   76    56.62   2694    2095   35787  13369     98.9    1.548
-14.0   77    57.96   2759    2197   38349  13637     99.4    1.504
-12.0   79    59.31   2823    2301   41060  13871     99.8    1.455
-10.0   81    60.66   2887    2406   43947  14068    100.0    1.408
-08.0   83    62.01   2950    2513   47020  14230    100.0    1.364
-06.0   85    63.36   3013    2620   50291  14384    100.0    1.321
-04.0   86    64.70   3074    2728   53774  14533    100.0    1.280  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   88    66.05   3135    2836   57483  14679    100.0    1.241  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   90    67.40   3195    2946   61436  14820    100.0    1.203  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0   92    68.75   3254    3057   65648  14958    100.0    1.167  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0   94    70.10   3313    3169   70141  15091    100.0    1.132  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0   95    71.44   3372    3282   74935  15220    100.0    1.098  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0   97    72.79   3430    3396   80057  15343    100.0    1.066  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0   99    74.14   3488    3512   85531  15463    100.0    1.035  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     90    67.40   3318    3178   75064  14332    100.0    1.104  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     90    67.40   3005    2607   47879  15421     99.5    1.339

However, RL26 may not be the best propellant.

Code:
Cartridge          : .264 Win. Mag.
Bullet             : .264, 130, Nosler AccuBond 56902
Useable Case Capaci: 75.520 grain H2O = 4.903 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 61500 psi, or 424 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

40 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
ADI AR 2218                        105.8     78.5     5.09    3297    98.0    61500   17797   1.159  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570                    101.6     74.6     4.83    3263    97.5    61500   17348   1.186  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 80                  104.7     79.1     5.12    3256    98.4    61500   17087   1.185  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-33                 103.4     78.1     5.06    3248    97.8    61500   17116   1.189  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H870                       107.8     77.5     5.02    3239    98.8    61500   16742   1.191  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-50                 107.9     81.3     5.27    3239    97.3    61500   17446   1.215  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Retumbo                    105.3     73.7     4.78    3234   100.0    61500   15282   1.177  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2225                        105.3     73.7     4.78    3234   100.0    61500   15282   1.177  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 217                          107.6     73.8     4.78    3230   100.0    61500   15742   1.201  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                     93.3     66.3     4.30    3203    99.5    61500   15660   1.181  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517                 96.0     71.3     4.62    3201    99.9    61500   15367   1.182  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2                        100.8     70.2     4.55    3200    99.9    61500   15603   1.196  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP30                        100.8     70.2     4.55    3200    99.9    61500   15603   1.196  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12                   95.8     71.2     4.61    3200    99.9    61500   15332   1.182  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                            97.5     66.0     4.28    3196    99.7    61500   15201   1.171  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                        92.3     66.0     4.28    3196    99.7    61500   15201   1.171  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-26                  90.1     67.4     4.37    3195   100.0    61500   14822   1.203  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                     93.5     69.2     4.49    3195    98.7    61500   15833   1.190  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP                           91.4     66.4     4.30    3192   100.0    61500   15033   1.190  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                         97.3     70.3     4.56    3189    99.9    61500   14906   1.166  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25                  98.6     68.3     4.42    3187   100.0    61500   14469   1.184  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2217                        102.3     70.4     4.56    3187    99.9    61500   14866   1.166  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000                      102.3     70.4     4.56    3187    99.9    61500   14866   1.166  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                         93.4     65.8     4.26    3186    99.7    61500   15077   1.166  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation        93.6     65.8     4.27    3175   100.0    61500   14944   1.186  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22                  93.6     65.8     4.27    3175   100.0    61500   14944   1.186  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15                        93.6     65.8     4.27    3175   100.0    61500   14944   1.186  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15                         96.1     66.2     4.29    3174   100.0    61500   14969   1.186  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                      96.1     66.2     4.29    3174   100.0    61500   14969   1.186  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 24N41                   104.6     77.6     5.03    3166    92.5    61500   15843   1.171  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 108.2     79.7     5.16    3163    90.3    61500   16669   1.222  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation        97.1     68.9     4.47    3160    98.6    61500   15002   1.167  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon 50BMG                      110.0     77.7     5.04    3159    88.7    61417   16110   1.180  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                       95.0     65.6     4.25    3154    99.5    61500   14776   1.183  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon US 869                     109.7     81.4     5.27    3153    92.5    61500   15867   1.186  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                      93.5     70.9     4.59    3151   100.0    61500   14282   1.188  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                         90.7     62.8     4.07    3146    99.9    61500   14268   1.169  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19                  91.1     63.4     4.11    3141   100.0    61500   14314   1.176  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation          91.8     63.9     4.14    3135   100.0    61500   14219   1.176  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831                       96.2     65.1     4.22    3127    99.3    61500   14309   1.173  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC                    92.5     65.1     4.22    3127    99.3    61500   14309   1.173  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23                  95.5     65.0     4.21    3118   100.0    61500   13412   1.198  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N170                    105.1     72.4     4.69    3115    96.3    61500   14898   1.196  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                       90.5     62.1     4.02    3103    99.6    61500   13788   1.172  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                        91.2     64.2     4.16    3100   100.0    61500   13629   1.196  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron                    94.0     63.6     4.12    3097    99.4    61500   13871   1.170  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780              90.2     66.2     4.29    3097    99.9    61500   13658   1.183  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem 12.7-0                     110.0     79.1     5.12    3095    88.3    60852   14958   1.179  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D100                         102.2     76.6     4.96    3092    93.2    61500   14665   1.186  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 8700                      110.0     79.9     5.18    3092    96.0    56046   15449   1.229  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 13                  110.0     78.2     5.07    3090    96.0    57496   15361   1.233  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165                     96.1     66.2     4.29    3087   100.0    61500   13370   1.188  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160                     96.6     64.5     4.18    3085    99.6    61500   13547   1.176  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 20N29                   110.0     82.4     5.34    3079    93.6    55997   15761   1.248  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                            90.6     60.4     3.92    3079   100.0    61500   12890   1.198  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                       93.8     65.3     4.23    3076   100.0    61500   13179   1.215  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S071                          99.2     65.3     4.23    3076   100.0    61500   13179   1.215  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7977 Enduron                    98.6     67.9     4.40    3055    94.5    61500   13746   1.170  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520       110.0     78.2     5.07    3025    93.9    53811   15170   1.270  ! Near Maximum !

Code:
Cartridge          : .264 Win. Mag.
Bullet             : .264, 140, Nosler AccuBond 57873
Useable Case Capaci: 74.854 grain H2O = 4.860 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-26

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   71    52.56   2491    1929   31574  12648     98.2    1.675
-18.0   73    53.87   2553    2026   33835  12951     98.9    1.634
-16.0   74    55.19   2615    2125   36218  13223     99.4    1.592
-14.0   76    56.50   2676    2226   38737  13463     99.8    1.545
-12.0   78    57.82   2737    2328   41415  13669    100.0    1.496
-10.0   80    59.13   2797    2431   44259  13841    100.0    1.449
-08.0   81    60.44   2856    2535   47280  14005    100.0    1.404
-06.0   83    61.76   2914    2640   50490  14165    100.0    1.361
-04.0   85    63.07   2972    2746   53900  14322    100.0    1.320  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   87    64.39   3029    2852   57524  14475    100.0    1.280  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   89    65.70   3085    2959   61377  14624    100.0    1.242  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0   90    67.01   3141    3068   65474  14769    100.0    1.205  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0   92    68.33   3197    3177   69833  14911    100.0    1.170  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0   94    69.64   3252    3288   74474  15047    100.0    1.136  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0   96    70.96   3307    3400   79418  15180    100.0    1.104  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0   97    72.27   3362    3513   84691  15308    100.0    1.072  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     89    65.70   3199    3180   74667  14161    100.0    1.142  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     89    65.70   2912    2637   48101  15257     99.8    1.380

Code:
Cartridge          : .264 Win. Mag.
Bullet             : .264, 140, Nosler AccuBond 57873
Useable Case Capaci: 74.854 grain H2O = 4.860 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 61500 psi, or 424 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

48 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
ADI AR 2218                        104.4     76.8     4.97    3205    98.7    61500   17774   1.194  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570                    100.1     72.8     4.72    3164    98.2    61500   17291   1.223  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 80                  103.2     77.2     5.00    3157    99.0    61500   17028   1.223  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-33                 101.9     76.2     4.94    3150    98.5    61500   17073   1.226  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-50                 106.3     79.4     5.14    3142    98.0    61500   17424   1.252  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H870                       106.2     75.7     4.90    3140    99.3    61500   16660   1.228  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2225                        103.7     72.0     4.66    3128   100.0    61500   15111   1.215  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Retumbo                    103.7     72.0     4.66    3128   100.0    61500   15111   1.215  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 217                          105.9     72.0     4.66    3125   100.0    61500   15551   1.239  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                     91.8     64.8     4.20    3101    99.8    61500   15512   1.218  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517                 94.6     69.6     4.51    3098   100.0    61500   15203   1.220  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP30                         99.3     68.5     4.44    3098   100.0    61500   15433   1.233  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2                         99.3     68.5     4.44    3098   100.0    61500   15433   1.233  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12                   94.4     69.5     4.51    3097   100.0    61500   15166   1.220  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                     92.1     67.6     4.38    3095    99.2    61500   15728   1.227  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                            96.1     64.4     4.17    3093    99.9    61500   15038   1.208  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                        90.9     64.4     4.17    3093    99.9    61500   15038   1.208  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                         95.9     68.7     4.45    3087   100.0    61500   14751   1.203  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2217                        100.8     68.8     4.46    3085   100.0    61500   14713   1.203  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000                      100.8     68.8     4.46    3085   100.0    61500   14713   1.203  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                         92.1     64.2     4.16    3084    99.9    61500   14928   1.203  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25                  97.0     66.6     4.32    3079   100.0    61500   14291   1.222  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 24N41                   103.2     75.9     4.92    3075    93.5    61500   15924   1.207  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 106.7     77.9     5.05    3074    91.4    61500   16769   1.258  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22                  92.2     64.3     4.17    3071   100.0    61500   14756   1.223  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15                        92.2     64.3     4.17    3071   100.0    61500   14756   1.223  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation        92.2     64.3     4.17    3071   100.0    61500   14756   1.223  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon 50BMG                      108.6     76.1     4.93    3071    89.9    61500   16243   1.216  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15                         94.6     64.6     4.19    3071   100.0    61500   14786   1.223  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                      94.6     64.6     4.19    3071   100.0    61500   14786   1.223  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon US 869                     108.3     79.6     5.16    3064    93.6    61500   15959   1.222  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation        95.7     67.3     4.36    3061    99.1    61500   14924   1.203  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 8700                      110.0     79.2     5.13    3057    97.5    59316   15668   1.234  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                       93.6     64.1     4.15    3053    99.7    61500   14641   1.219  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 13                  110.0     77.6     5.03    3051    97.4    60691   15577   1.239  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                      92.1     69.2     4.48    3048   100.0    61500   14115   1.226  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 20N29                   110.0     81.7     5.29    3048    95.5    59412   16074   1.251  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation          90.5     62.4     4.04    3033   100.0    61500   14048   1.213  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831                       94.9     63.6     4.12    3028    99.7    61500   14196   1.209  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC                    91.2     63.6     4.12    3028    99.7    61500   14196   1.209  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N170                    103.7     70.8     4.59    3022    97.0    61500   14893   1.232  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem 12.7-0                     108.9     77.6     5.03    3019    89.7    61500   15144   1.208  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23                  94.0     63.5     4.11    3011   100.0    61500   13245   1.236  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D100                         101.0     75.0     4.86    3004    94.2    61500   14731   1.222  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron                    92.7     62.2     4.03    2999    99.7    61500   13762   1.206  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520       110.0     77.6     5.03    2990    95.6    56861   15454   1.275  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165                     94.8     64.7     4.19    2987   100.0    61500   13207   1.225  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160                     95.3     63.0     4.08    2987    99.9    61500   13423   1.212  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                       92.5     63.8     4.13    2974   100.0    61500   13013   1.253  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S071                          97.8     63.8     4.13    2974   100.0    61500   13013   1.253  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7977 Enduron                    97.4     66.5     4.31    2965    95.4    61500   13772   1.205  ! Near Maximum !


Well DrMike I did pick up a pound of Retumbo since my local Gunstore did not have VV570 or Reloader 33
What I was wondering is why when I look at Nosler Load Data Retumbo is not showing very good performance with Retumbo but Quickload does. It has me a little confused as so many people in the .264 Win Mag use Retumbo with 130gr & 140gr Nosler AB bullets to some impressive FPS.
Any way the brass is polished hope I can get some loaded later this week.
I will be using Nosler Brass
Primer CCI 250
130gr Nosler AB any suggestions how far I should start off the lands ?
Retumbo powder.
Thanks
 
Talking about the Swede - any powder-suggestion for a 20“ barrel in an old (pressure-sensitive) M96 system?
Not an ideal combo, I know.
But it's there...
Thanks,
Frank

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1100RM, I’d start them no closer that .050”. That’s just me since I haven’t ever had much luck with them closer. Retumbo will scream with 130’s as well. It’s what I started out using. I wanna say I was easily in the 3300 range. I’ll have to re measure where these 140 ABs are in relation to the lands but I’d bet a buck I’m .075” or further now.

NP, I’d think any of the traditional powders like IMR4350, H4831 and similar will work in the Swede at the old Mauser pressures.
 
Scotty is spot on in his recommendation on distance from the lands. I have never had much success when it was closer than 0.050 inches. Almost all my loads exhibit a sweet spot at 0.100 inches off the lands.
 
Well.....here's another hot 6.5 coming onto the market you might want to look at.
The 6.5 PRC, a 300 RCM case necked down to take a .264 projectile.

Seems to spit 143 to 147 bullets out at a good clip.

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I dont think the prc qualifies as "hot"
2900 with a 147 isn't exactly a barn burner
Winchester outstripped that figure in 1959 with the 264 win mag and prc velocities are achievable in 260AI and 6.5x284.

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Ya, the PRC is interesting though...

More zip than the 6.5 CM, small enough to fit into a short-action magazine. Kinda.

Not up there with the 26 Nosler or the 6.5 Weatherby, but interesting.

Guy
 
I was pretty happy with the 264 on Friday. It’s done real well with Retumbo and 140 Accubonds. I used the first dot on the LR reticle and for the rest of the year I won’t touch this one.
 

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I was pretty happy with the 264 on Friday. It’s done real well with Retumbo and 140 Accubonds. I used the first dot on the LR reticle and for the rest of the year I won’t touch this one.
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To me, anything faster than the 6.5 Swede or 6.5 CM is "hot".

I've loved the 6.5 Swede for years. Still used to its ballistics.

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Thanks fellas, the 264 Win still continues to impress me. It’s not quite the 26 Nozler or 6.5x300 but it is very comfortable to shoot quite a few rounds thru and does perform.
 
SJB358":1ugjresf said:
Thanks fellas, the 264 Win still continues to impress me. It’s not quite the 26 Nozler or 6.5x300 but it is very comfortable to shoot quite a few rounds thru and does perform.

That 400 yard group is mighty nice Scott. Mighty nice. (y)
 
muleman":2wmavbd0 said:
They do teach you marines how to shoot!

Scott

From the number of veteran Jarheads I find at the rifle range, I suspect that more than a few of us fell in love with rifle shooting while in the Marines. The Corps makes a big deal out of it, and it seems to catch hold... Dad introduced me to rifle shooting, but The Corps really hooked me.

Guy
 
Guy Miner":2ve29k4x said:
muleman":2ve29k4x said:
They do teach you marines how to shoot!

Scott

From the number of veteran Jarheads I find at the rifle range, I suspect that more than a few of us fell in love with rifle shooting while in the Marines. The Corps makes a big deal out of it, and it seems to catch hold... Dad introduced me to rifle shooting, but The Corps really hooked me.

Guy

Yes sir. I LOVE burning gun powder. Always have but as Guy mentioned I did a lot of it in the Corps.
 
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