Things that make you say Hmmmm

Oldtrader3":17ydbi15 said:
Amen to that, Bullet. I figure that I will croak sitting at the range shooting my .340 Bee with a smile on my face.

I love the 340 Bee

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Man, it sure has been fun, I think the 340Wby and the 358 Norma Mag are just about the most perfect big time gun for big time game, wonderful cartridges and not quit over the edge for those of use who do not like breaks or mind some recoil. Yes, Thor's Hammer indeed.
 
Mine came with an Accubrake and shooting 50 rounds at a sitting from the bench, it is nice to have. Either way with the brake, it is a rifle that I wanted for years and years and finally bought one to relplace my .338 WM. This caliber (and the .358 Norma) will certainly lay elk down in their tracks, if you can shoot.
 
Oldtrader3":1dzh0o3v said:
Mine came with an Accubrake and shooting 50 rounds at a sitting from the bench, it is nice to have. Either way with the brake, it is a rifle that I wanted for years and years and finally bought one to relplace my .338 WM. This caliber (and the .358 Norma) will certainly lay elk down in their tracks, if you can shoot.

Either one will lay down big tough plains game in Africa as well, and you are not under gunned when face to face with a Brown Bear in North America. Now I can't go 50 rounds at the range nor do I want to with a 340Wby with no break, 20 rounds I keep as my limit and I can still maintain good accurate shooting techniques up to that point. NOTICE: I SAID UP TO THAT POINT :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :shock:
 
Nice rifles fellers! Those are some very nice 340's!

I think I have a cool 35 in mind for my next rifle.. I am going off the reservation a little..
 
SJB358":26nw6gvx said:
Nice rifles fellers! Those are some very nice 340's!

I think I have a cool 35 in mind for my next rifle.. I am going off the reservation a little..

So, how long are you going to leave us hanging. Personally, I would like to build a 358 Norma Mag
 
bullet":3rjvdehv said:
SJB358":3rjvdehv said:
Nice rifles fellers! Those are some very nice 340's!

I think I have a cool 35 in mind for my next rifle.. I am going off the reservation a little..

So, how long are you going to leave us hanging. Personally, I would like to build a 358 Norma Mag

I like the Norma as well Mike. I am thinking it will be a 35 Newton or 358/375 Ruger. Leaning towards the Newton though, as well, I just wanna. No real big reason, but I like Mr. Newton's early rifles and since I couldn't ever afford one of them, I would rather just build my own..

His 30 and 35 Newton's really seemed FAR ahead of their early 1900's vintage.. Sorry, just like them. Not totally decided yet, but I have the donor, just gotta get the other pieces taken care of first.

This is what it looks like to me with the 225 AB

Cartridge : .35 Newton
Bullet : .358, 225, Nosler AccuBond 50712
Useable Case Capaci: 81.480 grain H2O = 5.290 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 25.0 inch = 635.0 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 63000 psi, or 434 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 107 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

113 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-17 98.9 77.9 5.05 3035 100.0 63000 9139 1.106 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H414 101.5 80.7 5.23 3033 98.5 63000 9593 1.118 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester 760 101.5 80.7 5.23 3033 98.5 63000 9593 1.118 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Hunter 107.0 83.0 5.38 3027 99.0 61934 9594 1.122 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N550 104.0 79.8 5.17 3026 99.8 63000 9405 1.126 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma URP 107.0 79.5 5.15 3023 99.8 62804 9278 1.122 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 107.0 79.5 5.15 3022 99.8 62742 9274 1.123 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot BigGame 99.9 77.5 5.02 3007 100.0 63000 8952 1.121 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
SNPE Vectan SP 11 100.1 77.6 5.03 3006 100.0 63000 8939 1.122 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 204 106.0 82.2 5.33 2999 96.6 63000 9459 1.114 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4895 96.5 72.5 4.69 2994 100.0 63000 8857 1.132 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-15 97.3 73.1 4.73 2984 100.0 63000 8824 1.132 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Raufoss RA11 97.3 73.1 4.73 2984 100.0 63000 8824 1.132 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP11 ~approximation 97.3 73.1 4.73 2984 100.0 63000 8824 1.132 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 107.0 81.6 5.29 2983 98.2 63000 9209 1.126 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 203B 97.7 73.4 4.76 2982 100.0 63000 8753 1.133 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon BL-C2 92.0 75.4 4.88 2977 100.0 63000 8630 1.135 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 203 old 99.2 75.3 4.88 2975 100.0 63000 8614 1.143 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S365 107.0 79.9 5.18 2974 100.0 56350 8931 1.166 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380 98.5 75.6 4.90 2973 99.7 63000 8917 1.136 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex S070 106.2 78.9 5.11 2969 98.6 63000 9083 1.137 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R903 101.5 75.4 4.88 2968 100.0 63000 8537 1.143 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4895 93.8 70.5 4.57 2965 100.0 63000 8541 1.134 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4320 99.2 73.3 4.75 2964 100.0 63000 8490 1.119 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
PB Clermont PCL 516 94.9 76.0 4.92 2963 99.6 63000 8808 1.129 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2206H 94.2 70.7 4.58 2963 100.0 63000 8593 1.133 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S355 101.4 74.5 4.83 2962 100.0 63000 8549 1.140 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4350 106.9 79.8 5.17 2961 97.9 63000 8983 1.123 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
SNPE Vectan SP 9 94.8 73.5 4.76 2956 100.0 63000 8528 1.130 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP7 NT ~approximation 100.2 75.9 4.92 2955 98.6 63000 8778 1.114 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex S065 104.8 77.0 4.99 2947 99.2 63000 8784 1.139 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 3031 96.9 68.0 4.41 2946 100.0 63000 7892 1.136 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
PB Clermont PCL 507 91.4 71.6 4.64 2944 100.0 63000 8278 1.133 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon VARGET 99.9 72.6 4.70 2942 99.9 63000 8500 1.126 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2208 99.5 72.6 4.70 2942 99.9 63000 8500 1.126 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
SNPE Vectan SP 7 92.9 74.9 4.85 2941 99.6 63000 8589 1.140 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex D073.6 94.1 72.8 4.72 2941 100.0 63000 8070 1.148 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 2520 94.1 72.8 4.72 2941 100.0 63000 8070 1.148 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 4064 103.7 72.8 4.72 2939 100.0 63000 8068 1.165 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S341 93.0 75.2 4.87 2939 100.0 63000 8300 1.132 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R907 103.3 76.1 4.93 2939 97.8 63000 8863 1.136 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4007 SSC 100.0 76.2 4.94 2938 97.8 63000 8857 1.136 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP3 NT ~approximation 102.0 76.1 4.93 2936 99.2 63000 8591 1.125 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex S062 98.3 71.8 4.65 2935 100.0 63000 8200 1.143 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N530 90.6 68.4 4.43 2934 100.0 63000 8174 1.133 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4064 100.5 71.3 4.62 2934 100.0 63000 8328 1.131 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 107.0 80.4 5.21 2927 95.7 58068 9271 1.154 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4 107.0 80.4 5.21 2927 95.7 58068 9271 1.154 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 8208 XBR 92.6 69.5 4.51 2926 100.0 63000 8092 1.133 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 201 91.2 70.0 4.53 2924 100.0 63000 8160 1.146 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N540 96.9 73.6 4.77 2920 100.0 63000 8043 1.140 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N150 106.7 75.6 4.90 2918 100.0 63000 8023 1.139 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 202 94.6 69.9 4.53 2917 100.0 63000 7890 1.141 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R902 97.1 70.3 4.55 2915 100.0 63000 8054 1.148 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 2495 96.5 68.5 4.44 2912 100.0 63000 7756 1.171 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 107.0 77.7 5.04 2912 100.0 57127 8457 1.166 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350 107.0 78.6 5.09 2911 97.3 59485 8873 1.152 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H322 90.5 66.0 4.27 2906 100.0 63000 7665 1.133 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 4350 107.0 76.9 4.98 2905 99.3 54548 9082 1.208 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 107.0 79.9 5.18 2902 95.2 55401 9335 1.172 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP2 NT ~approximation 93.8 69.9 4.53 2901 100.0 63000 7967 1.132 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma MRP 107.0 83.9 5.43 2895 95.7 49438 10027 1.227
Rottweil R901 93.2 66.5 4.31 2894 100.0 63000 7745 1.157 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex S060 94.5 69.1 4.47 2893 100.0 63000 7951 1.133 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N140 96.7 71.2 4.62 2888 100.0 63000 7582 1.141 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant AR-Comp 92.0 66.9 4.33 2888 100.0 63000 7312 1.145 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP11 TZ ~approximation 91.5 66.9 4.33 2887 100.0 63000 7312 1.145 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-19 107.0 80.4 5.21 2885 95.1 53699 9359 1.192 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2700 101.0 78.3 5.07 2883 97.6 63000 8316 1.142 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N135 103.0 70.2 4.55 2882 100.0 63000 7391 1.149 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon Benchmark 91.8 67.9 4.40 2882 100.0 63000 7704 1.137 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

And the mighty 250 PT, which would probably be the bullet for it

Cartridge : .35 Newton
Bullet : .358, 250, Nosler PART SP 44801
Useable Case Capaci: 83.571 grain H2O = 5.426 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 25.0 inch = 635.0 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 63000 psi, or 434 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 107 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

126 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Somchem S365 106.2 81.4 5.27 2913 100.0 63000 9047 1.169 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Hunter 103.8 82.6 5.35 2909 99.8 63000 9748 1.166 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H414 98.0 79.9 5.18 2902 99.4 63000 9739 1.170 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester 760 98.0 79.9 5.18 2902 99.4 63000 9739 1.170 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-17 95.6 77.3 5.01 2899 100.0 63000 9177 1.157 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma MRP 107.0 86.0 5.57 2896 98.7 56261 10562 1.211 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 100.4 79.0 5.12 2889 100.0 63000 9464 1.179 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma URP 103.3 78.8 5.10 2889 100.0 63000 9331 1.174 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 103.4 78.8 5.10 2889 100.0 63000 9329 1.174 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2209 107.0 82.0 5.31 2887 98.0 61960 9863 1.165 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 4350 107.0 78.8 5.11 2879 100.0 62402 9283 1.194 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 106.0 81.6 5.29 2878 98.0 63000 9696 1.165 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Raufoss RA4 106.0 81.6 5.29 2878 98.0 63000 9696 1.165 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 204 102.6 81.6 5.29 2878 98.0 63000 9696 1.165 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-19 107.0 82.4 5.34 2868 97.9 60273 9892 1.184 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot BigGame 96.4 76.7 4.97 2868 100.0 63000 8982 1.175 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
SNPE Vectan SP 11 96.6 76.8 4.98 2867 100.0 63000 8970 1.175 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 103.5 80.9 5.24 2858 99.2 63000 9383 1.177 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 7828 SSC 107.0 84.7 5.49 2856 95.9 57127 10227 1.201 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895 93.1 71.7 4.65 2854 100.0 63000 8877 1.184 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester Supreme 780 106.5 86.5 5.60 2853 98.0 63000 9439 1.167 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 106.1 79.1 5.12 2849 100.0 63000 8561 1.174 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Raufoss RA11 93.9 72.3 4.69 2846 100.0 63000 8847 1.185 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-15 93.9 72.3 4.69 2846 100.0 63000 8847 1.185 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP11 ~approximation 93.9 72.3 4.69 2846 100.0 63000 8847 1.185 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 203B 94.3 72.7 4.71 2843 100.0 63000 8777 1.186 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex S070 102.7 78.2 5.07 2843 99.4 63000 9229 1.188 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R904 106.6 81.0 5.25 2842 97.1 63000 9401 1.171 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 107.0 82.4 5.34 2841 97.7 58857 9762 1.198 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380 95.2 74.9 4.86 2840 100.0 63000 8987 1.188 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4350 105.4 79.4 5.15 2839 98.9 63000 9179 1.174 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4350 103.4 79.3 5.14 2838 99.0 63000 9163 1.174 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4831 107.0 78.9 5.12 2835 100.0 60184 9075 1.207 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old 95.7 74.5 4.83 2834 100.0 63000 8643 1.197 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
PB Clermont PCL 516 91.8 75.3 4.88 2832 100.0 63000 8885 1.180 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP7 NT ~approximation 97.1 75.5 4.89 2831 99.5 63000 8930 1.164 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R903 97.9 74.6 4.83 2829 100.0 63000 8562 1.198 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4320 95.9 72.6 4.71 2828 100.0 63000 8522 1.172 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N560 107.0 84.2 5.46 2827 94.8 53620 10432 1.239 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385 107.0 83.3 5.40 2827 98.6 59684 9463 1.209 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4895 90.6 69.8 4.52 2826 100.0 63000 8566 1.186 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2206H 91.0 70.1 4.54 2825 100.0 63000 8618 1.186 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S355 97.9 73.8 4.78 2823 100.0 63000 8580 1.193 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
SNPE Vectan SP 9 91.6 72.9 4.72 2820 100.0 63000 8562 1.182 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex S065 101.4 76.4 4.95 2819 99.8 63000 8893 1.190 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2213 107.0 83.3 5.40 2817 95.4 55726 10044 1.215 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907 100.0 75.6 4.90 2816 98.9 63000 9041 1.186 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4007 SSC 96.9 75.7 4.91 2816 98.9 63000 9035 1.186 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon VARGET 96.6 72.0 4.67 2810 100.0 63000 8546 1.177 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2208 96.3 72.0 4.67 2810 100.0 63000 8546 1.177 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP3 NT ~approximation 98.8 75.6 4.90 2810 99.8 63000 8708 1.176 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S361 105.3 86.4 5.60 2808 96.2 63000 9189 1.183 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-22 107.0 83.3 5.40 2807 96.8 52940 10135 1.250 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 107.0 83.3 5.40 2807 96.8 52940 10135 1.250 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 107.0 83.3 5.40 2807 96.8 52940 10135 1.250 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC 107.0 83.3 5.40 2805 95.4 58474 9556 1.201 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4064 97.2 70.7 4.58 2801 100.0 63000 8360 1.183 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate MAGPRO 107.0 87.6 5.68 2799 92.7 52479 10370 1.255 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2520 90.7 72.0 4.67 2797 100.0 63000 8098 1.203 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex D073.6 90.7 72.0 4.67 2797 100.0 63000 8098 1.203 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 3031 93.3 67.2 4.35 2796 100.0 63000 7915 1.192 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex S062 94.9 71.1 4.61 2796 100.0 63000 8231 1.196 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 4064 99.8 71.9 4.66 2793 100.0 63000 8088 1.220 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Or a 280 Swift, should I need something heavier....

Cartridge : .35 Newton
Bullet : .358, 280, Swift A-Frame SS
Useable Case Capaci: 81.657 grain H2O = 5.302 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 25.0 inch = 635.0 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 63000 psi, or 434 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 107 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

139 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Norma MRP 106.8 83.9 5.44 2818 99.8 63000 10314 1.220 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 7828 SSC 106.8 82.5 5.35 2780 98.2 63000 10131 1.215 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N560 107.0 82.3 5.33 2762 97.4 60009 10407 1.247 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213 107.0 81.4 5.28 2748 97.8 61743 10004 1.227 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate MAGPRO 107.0 85.6 5.55 2742 95.8 59169 10417 1.259 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 107.0 81.4 5.28 2737 98.8 59463 10030 1.258 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 107.0 81.4 5.28 2737 98.8 59463 10030 1.258 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 107.0 81.4 5.28 2737 98.8 59463 10030 1.258 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 105.1 79.1 5.13 2735 99.1 63000 9630 1.231 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2209 104.4 78.2 5.07 2734 99.0 63000 9555 1.224 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Hunter 100.5 78.1 5.06 2732 100.0 63000 9314 1.237 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 105.9 79.7 5.16 2729 99.0 63000 9560 1.232 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H414 94.9 75.6 4.90 2726 99.8 63000 9316 1.241 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester 760 94.9 75.6 4.90 2726 99.8 63000 9316 1.241 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S365 102.5 76.7 4.97 2726 100.0 63000 8595 1.243 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-17 92.6 73.1 4.74 2719 100.0 63000 8736 1.228 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N550 97.1 74.7 4.84 2710 100.0 63000 9005 1.251 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma URP 100.0 74.5 4.82 2710 100.0 63000 8873 1.246 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 100.0 74.5 4.83 2709 100.0 63000 8871 1.246 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 204 99.6 77.4 5.01 2708 98.8 63000 9353 1.236 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 102.8 77.4 5.01 2708 98.8 63000 9353 1.236 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Raufoss RA4 102.8 77.4 5.01 2708 98.8 63000 9353 1.236 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4831 SC 106.2 80.8 5.23 2705 97.4 63000 9457 1.231 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 4350 103.6 74.6 4.84 2704 100.0 63000 8815 1.263 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S385 105.3 80.1 5.19 2699 99.5 63000 9180 1.253 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4831 104.9 75.6 4.90 2692 100.0 63000 8670 1.256 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot BigGame 93.3 72.5 4.70 2688 100.0 63000 8544 1.247 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester Supreme 780 103.5 82.1 5.32 2688 98.9 63000 9131 1.238 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
SNPE Vectan SP 11 93.4 72.6 4.71 2687 100.0 63000 8533 1.247 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 100.4 76.7 4.97 2687 99.7 63000 9007 1.249 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Magnum 107.0 86.2 5.59 2684 97.2 55167 10091 1.287 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12 107.0 86.0 5.57 2676 97.2 54675 10050 1.292 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904 103.6 76.9 4.98 2676 98.1 63000 9098 1.241 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4895 90.0 67.8 4.39 2672 100.0 63000 8432 1.257 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
PB Clermont PCL 517 107.0 86.0 5.57 2671 97.1 54378 10051 1.296 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070 99.5 74.1 4.80 2670 99.8 63000 8839 1.260 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4350 102.3 75.3 4.88 2669 99.5 63000 8825 1.244 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 102.7 74.8 4.85 2669 100.0 63000 8142 1.247 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4350 100.4 75.2 4.87 2669 99.5 63000 8806 1.244 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R905 107.0 79.9 5.18 2668 96.8 57482 9620 1.282 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA11 90.9 68.4 4.43 2667 100.0 63000 8406 1.257 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP11 ~approximation 90.9 68.4 4.43 2667 100.0 63000 8406 1.257 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-15 90.9 68.4 4.43 2667 100.0 63000 8406 1.257 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H380 92.2 70.9 4.60 2664 100.0 63000 8552 1.261 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 203B 91.3 68.7 4.45 2663 100.0 63000 8342 1.259 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester WXR 107.0 79.7 5.16 2662 98.0 54392 9841 1.309 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7 NT ~approximation 94.3 71.6 4.64 2661 99.9 63000 8557 1.234 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 203 old 92.5 70.4 4.56 2653 100.0 63000 8208 1.272 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4320 92.9 68.8 4.46 2650 100.0 63000 8109 1.244 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R907 97.2 71.8 4.65 2648 99.5 63000 8696 1.257 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R903 94.6 70.4 4.56 2648 100.0 63000 8129 1.272 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4007 SSC 94.1 71.9 4.66 2647 99.5 63000 8690 1.257 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex S065 98.3 72.4 4.69 2647 100.0 63000 8494 1.262 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S361 102.4 82.1 5.32 2647 97.3 63000 8930 1.252 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S355 94.8 69.8 4.52 2644 100.0 63000 8160 1.266 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP3 NT ~approximation 95.9 71.7 4.65 2639 100.0 63000 8324 1.247 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2208 93.5 68.3 4.42 2635 100.0 63000 8146 1.250 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon VARGET 93.8 68.3 4.42 2635 100.0 63000 8146 1.250 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 7828 107.0 78.3 5.07 2625 96.2 52459 9696 1.320 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4064 94.3 67.0 4.34 2625 100.0 63000 7957 1.255 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AP 2214 107.0 83.6 5.42 2622 96.4 53987 9581 1.302 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S062 91.9 67.3 4.36 2617 100.0 63000 7827 1.270 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4831 107.0 78.3 5.07 2617 96.3 56552 9200 1.291 ! Near Maximum !
 
nvbroncrider":2fnnwlbv said:
Why not a 35WSM or a 35 RUM?

Jake, no good reason really. I thought of the 358WSM and the thought crossed my mind on the 358 RUM as well. Both of those would be awesome as well. If I was to go full length, it would be a 358 STA to be honest. Just has more old school cool in it. They are all cool to a 35 nut though.
 
Yeah, I have no reason to like them more than the 338 other than it is bigger.... Plus, nothing has run after getting the good news from any of the 35's..
 
Well said, indeed nothing has run after being shot by the 35 Whelen I use to own or this 358Win as of yet.
 
It's nice to be different. I don't like running with the masses. I will eventually have a unique collection.
 
For me, it would all depend on the donors. I would love to find a CRF M70 in a WSSM for a .358 WSSM build, but a .358 Norma or .358 WSM would be awfully cool also. Heck, I could go for an M70 Whelen.
 
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