was ichen to try something new in my 30/06 so i put some RL-19 under a 165gr partician,, started at 56gr and took it up to 59gr,,( 3 shots ) all i can say is that didnt shoot worth beans in my rifle,, the only load that shot decent was 58gr and it was just under an inch but it was straight up and down :shock: the other loads were all over the place i doubt you could cover the groups with your hand,, looks like ill stick with IMR 4350 for now :wink: