Va Deer Hunt

SJB358

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Dec 24, 2006
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Well, I was able to get the wife to give me a pass in order to head down to Woodycreek's and hunt for the Saturday club hunt. My son, and two buddies from work went down with me and we camped at Brian's place on Friday night. Saturday morning had us getting the hunt lined up and figuring out where the hunters would be posted. This was a traditional hound hunt and man, Brian's club does it great. Very professional folks and very nice to people to hunt with. Since my son is still a young hunter, I have been sitting right next to him, just to watch over him. Well, we put the stands up in a hardwood swamp about 200 yards away from where Brian was posted. It is thick stuff.

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To be honest, I kinda lost track of time, but I would say it was about 1000 that I saw some deer running on the outside of the hunt clubs property and blazing through alot of thick vegetation. I said dang it to myself as I was dieing for my son to put a shot on a deer. Being it was a doe day, I was allowed to shoot a buck or a doe and my son could shoot either as well.



Anyhow, those deer ran up and out of sight and I settled back into the stand. Just then, I noticed they were hauling butt, right back at my son and I. We were sitting in our stands facing opposite directions, and I didn't really have a good way of getting his attention. Well, I figured if I could knock the first one down, it would give him time to get turned on his stand and get a shot on one. Shooting deer that are being ran from dogs is pretty exciting, cause they are moving out, FAST! I had my 358 Win with 225gr PT's in my little BLR with 4 rounds (this will be important in a few moments)...

So, the first one came through at about 20 yards and I picked her up in the scope and shot her. Dropped that one on the spot. The noise startled my boy and he whirled and shot the next one with his 243, running. The third one had put the afterburners on and was about 40 yards out, well, I planted another 225 on her back side, dropping her, but not killing her. I put another one into her to finish it..


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Well, the boys deer was not out either, and he planted another 243 round on the head at about 45-50 yards.. So in about 20 seconds, we had put three does down. My son was shaking so badly I thought he would fall out of his stand if he didn't sit down.

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Anyhow, for those who have not hunted over dogs, it is something you have to do before you judge it. It is just a different tradition, like running bears or lions kinda. Brian's club does a 1st class hunt and everybody is pretty danged professional. It is more suited to shotguns with buckshot than rifles, but since a shotgun and me don't go along well, I would rather try my luck with a rifle.

I do have one unaccounted for 358 shell. Not sure which deer it got fired on, but I did fire it. Well, since I grabbed the 358 in the last second before getting into the stand, I only grabbed the magazine and not the rest of the shells. Well, I sat the rest of the morning with the 44! Oh well, we had three deer down anyhow, so I wasn't too worried. But, a lesson I have always tried to tell my son, make sure you have enough rounds, cause you just never know what is going to happen... Well, who was the dummy now?????

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After all of the collecting up deer and getting them back up to the truck, we had a field lunch the club brought out. Some hotdogs and beans for the crew. Great lunch and now time for the work and tag call ins.

We started with a field dressing class for my son and my buddy, who has never hunted in the past and never taken a deer, so he wanted to learn and I was all about getting a free field dressing!

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Well, once it was all said and done. We hunted in the evening, me with the boy again, and my buddies sitting in their stands. Nothing that I know of was taken in the evening hunt, but it was a great day. We went back and skinned and quartered up the deer, did some autopsy's got the meat loaded to head back home.

I spent the day yesterday cutting and packaging meat.. 3 deer was about all I wanted to do! It turned out well though and look forward to having a little of my son's deer this week. He is about as happy as a kid can get right now.. I am pretty proud myself. Hitting a running or just moving deer is tough and he had enough presence of mind to get it together. Wished we had some recovered bullets, but with my son shooting 100gr PT's and me with 225gr PT's, nothing stayed in the deer! I know, big surprise!

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Brian does have a recovered 300gr Ballistic Silvertip from his 45-70 though. Shot into the frontal chest and recovered in the ham. Just stood the deer up and flopped him over. Bullet looks PERFECT... Just goes to show me again, water is a harder media for testing than actual game animals.

It was a great Saturaday and my son claimed a deer. Pretty happy for him and I think the fire is lit. He shot well for the conditions and made it happen. I think he saw where all of the shooting through the Summer prepared him for just about any decent shot he could take.

Oh, you Northern hunters can't make too much fun of the little deer we have down here in Va! I know they don't weigh much more than a quarter or two of your deer, but these are what we have and man oh man, they eat just as well. Just gotta take a few more of them to fill the freezers! Scotty
 
That is a great report. You and your son did very well indeed. I see he was properly initiated into the fraternity with painted cheeks and all. Congratulations to either of you. Now, don't forget your ammunition next time! :wink:
 
Damn Scotty you guys wiped out the entire herd. Congrats on a great hunt.


Bill
 
Scotty,

Man, you fellas cleaned house! Way to go guys.

JD338
 
Thanks to Brian we had a great day out there!

It was great to hunt with the Browning again. I forgot how much I like that rifle. Scotty
 
Congratulations to your son and you Scotty. Those deer look to be around the size of some of our blacktails over in the Queen Charlotte Islands, bet yours will taste great :) Those BLR's sure point and handle great don't they, those guys that haven't shot them don't know what they are missing. How did the 225 gr PT do for meat damage and blood shot meat?
 
Gerry, these are the first animals taken with the 225 PT and my 358. I'm very impressed. One deer was shot in the rear, directly between the hams. Bullet exited low out of the chest near the heart. It dropped, fast. There was little meat loss. Lots of stomach crap from that bullet traveling the guts but no real meat loss or blood shot meat. The other deer was shot through the back. Hammered dead on the spot. Neither deer had any significant loss of meat and neither moved much after the initial shots. I'm very impressed with the 225 and 358 combo.

The BLR is a great rifle. Once I get ahead, I will get some trigger work done, but even now with the heavy trigger it is MOA at 100 and 200. I would feel okay with it in the elk woods. It cycles like lightening too! I would like a 1-1.5 power scope though. On both the 45-70 and this rifle. I think they would be the ultimate timber rifles then. Scotty
 
Thanks for the report Scotty, the 225 Pt is a great bullet. When I got my BLR it came down to a choice between it and a Ruger No.1 Light sporter, the Ruger felt good but when I picked up the BLR it was game over it was a perfect fit. Your 358 Win is a great round too :)
 
Good for you guys Scotty. That is just so cool to have your son get his first animal, and make a great shot at the same time. Who says the 243 is too small for deer? NO-ONE with a right mind does! :lol: Not sure but you might have just been a touch undergunned yourself! Fotis would have used his 300/378 Bee or something!!

Nice job and I like the old paint on the face. He has to get blooded as well!
David
 
Somehow missed this was your son's first deer, way to go getting your first :)
 
Sounds like a blast. Congrats to your son on his first deer. That's quite a milestone in any hunter's life and not that easy. Thanks for sharing the pictures and story, those are some thick woods for sure. Lots of good eating.
Greg
 
Thanks for the pictures and account Scott. It looks like you did a great job preparing your son and lighting the fire for years to come.

After talking with you today and seeing the results, I am going to have to try the 225PT's in my 358 to see if they will shoot :roll: . I have the same kind of thick stuff to shoot through and I'm sure the 225's will work better than the 200 grain other brand bullets I have been using.
 
Scotty - I almost missed this post!

Congratulations to all the hunters - OUTSTANDING MARINE!

What a great day of hunting. Good shooting indeed. I'd like to try that style of hunting someday.

Guy
 
The Beretzs family will be eating like kings for quite some time. Congrats and thanks for sharing.
 
Great hunt, Scotty and a big congrats to your son. Thanks for sharing the story and pics with us.
 
Awesome, Scotty!

I'll have to wait till I get home to see the pics, but the story was great! Congrats to your son!
 
Scotty, that's some good hunting! I grew up running dogs down in the flatwoods in north Florida. It's a great sound when the dogs jump and are running. The shooting is tough, so congrats to you and your son. He should be doubly proud for handling his part so well. Very cool!
 
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