what kind of velocity can be had out of a 18.5" .308 ba
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give me your load and coal in " . I will work up a quickload model for you!
Guy Miner
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Hodgdon has published some interesting .308 data for 15" single-shot pistols:
They list several pretty impressive loads using the 150 gr Nosler BT:
Varget, min 44 @ 2522, max 47 @ 2675
H4895, min 43 @ 2478, max 45.5 @ 2649
That's from a mere 15" barrel. I've got three .308's, one with a 20" barrel. Never have bothered to chronograph any loads from it, but it shoots fine at 200 & 300 yards.
Regards, Guy
They list several pretty impressive loads using the 150 gr Nosler BT:
Varget, min 44 @ 2522, max 47 @ 2675
H4895, min 43 @ 2478, max 45.5 @ 2649
That's from a mere 15" barrel. I've got three .308's, one with a 20" barrel. Never have bothered to chronograph any loads from it, but it shoots fine at 200 & 300 yards.
Regards, Guy
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Cartridge : .308 Win.
Bullet : .308, 150, Nosler AccuBond 56719
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch or 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 18.0 inch or 457.2 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-15
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-20.0 85 37.60 2187 1593 31002 8381 85.2 1.227
-18.0 87 38.54 2243 1676 33163 8673 86.6 1.193
-16.0 89 39.48 2300 1762 35459 8959 87.9 1.160
-14.0 91 40.42 2357 1851 37893 9240 89.2 1.126
-12.0 94 41.36 2414 1942 40489 9513 90.4 1.091
-10.0 96 42.30 2472 2035 43269 9778 91.6 1.057
-08.0 98 43.24 2530 2131 46246 10033 92.7 1.024
-06.0 100 44.18 2587 2230 49438 10279 93.7 0.993
-04.0 102 45.12 2645 2331 52862 10513 94.6 0.963
-02.0 104 46.06 2703 2434 56539 10734 95.5 0.933 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 106 47.00 2761 2540 60490 10942 96.3 0.905 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 108 47.94 2820 2648 64741 11136 97.0 0.878 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 111 48.88 2878 2759 69321 11314 97.7 0.852 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 113 49.82 2936 2872 74263 11475 98.3 0.826 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 115 50.76 2995 2987 79603 11619 98.8 0.802 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 117 51.70 3053 3104 85384 11744 99.2 0.778 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 106 47.00 2902 2805 72599 10929 99.7 0.837 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 106 47.00 2579 2215 48859 10431 89.2 0.994
Cartridge : .308 Win.
Bullet : .308, 150, Nosler AccuBond 56719
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch or 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 18.0 inch or 457.2 mm
Powder : Hodgdon VARGET
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-20.0 88 37.60 2196 1606 32724 8097 86.1 1.193
-18.0 90 38.54 2251 1688 34943 8373 87.4 1.159
-16.0 92 39.48 2306 1772 37314 8644 88.7 1.126
-14.0 95 40.42 2362 1858 39851 8909 89.9 1.092
-12.0 97 41.36 2418 1947 42567 9168 91.0 1.058
-10.0 99 42.30 2474 2038 45475 9419 92.1 1.026
-08.0 101 43.24 2530 2132 48595 9662 93.1 0.995
-06.0 103 44.18 2586 2228 51943 9896 94.1 0.965
-04.0 106 45.12 2643 2326 55519 10119 95.0 0.936 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 108 46.06 2699 2427 59343 10332 95.8 0.909 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 110 47.00 2756 2530 63457 10532 96.5 0.882 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 112 47.94 2813 2635 67886 10719 97.2 0.856 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 114 48.88 2870 2743 72664 10892 97.8 0.831 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 117 49.82 2927 2854 77826 11049 98.4 0.806 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 119 50.76 2984 2966 83412 11191 98.9 0.783 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 121 51.70 3042 3081 89470 11315 99.2 0.760 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 110 47.00 2885 2772 74898 10541 99.7 0.822 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 110 47.00 2590 2234 52351 10065 89.9 0.959
Bullet : .308, 150, Nosler AccuBond 56719
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch or 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 18.0 inch or 457.2 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-15
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-20.0 85 37.60 2187 1593 31002 8381 85.2 1.227
-18.0 87 38.54 2243 1676 33163 8673 86.6 1.193
-16.0 89 39.48 2300 1762 35459 8959 87.9 1.160
-14.0 91 40.42 2357 1851 37893 9240 89.2 1.126
-12.0 94 41.36 2414 1942 40489 9513 90.4 1.091
-10.0 96 42.30 2472 2035 43269 9778 91.6 1.057
-08.0 98 43.24 2530 2131 46246 10033 92.7 1.024
-06.0 100 44.18 2587 2230 49438 10279 93.7 0.993
-04.0 102 45.12 2645 2331 52862 10513 94.6 0.963
-02.0 104 46.06 2703 2434 56539 10734 95.5 0.933 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 106 47.00 2761 2540 60490 10942 96.3 0.905 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 108 47.94 2820 2648 64741 11136 97.0 0.878 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 111 48.88 2878 2759 69321 11314 97.7 0.852 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 113 49.82 2936 2872 74263 11475 98.3 0.826 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 115 50.76 2995 2987 79603 11619 98.8 0.802 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 117 51.70 3053 3104 85384 11744 99.2 0.778 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 106 47.00 2902 2805 72599 10929 99.7 0.837 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 106 47.00 2579 2215 48859 10431 89.2 0.994
Cartridge : .308 Win.
Bullet : .308, 150, Nosler AccuBond 56719
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch or 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 18.0 inch or 457.2 mm
Powder : Hodgdon VARGET
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-20.0 88 37.60 2196 1606 32724 8097 86.1 1.193
-18.0 90 38.54 2251 1688 34943 8373 87.4 1.159
-16.0 92 39.48 2306 1772 37314 8644 88.7 1.126
-14.0 95 40.42 2362 1858 39851 8909 89.9 1.092
-12.0 97 41.36 2418 1947 42567 9168 91.0 1.058
-10.0 99 42.30 2474 2038 45475 9419 92.1 1.026
-08.0 101 43.24 2530 2132 48595 9662 93.1 0.995
-06.0 103 44.18 2586 2228 51943 9896 94.1 0.965
-04.0 106 45.12 2643 2326 55519 10119 95.0 0.936 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 108 46.06 2699 2427 59343 10332 95.8 0.909 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 110 47.00 2756 2530 63457 10532 96.5 0.882 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 112 47.94 2813 2635 67886 10719 97.2 0.856 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 114 48.88 2870 2743 72664 10892 97.8 0.831 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 117 49.82 2927 2854 77826 11049 98.4 0.806 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 119 50.76 2984 2966 83412 11191 98.9 0.783 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 121 51.70 3042 3081 89470 11315 99.2 0.760 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 110 47.00 2885 2772 74898 10541 99.7 0.822 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 110 47.00 2590 2234 52351 10065 89.9 0.959
- Nov 4, 2004
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I would have said 2700-2750 but Pop's Quick Load beat me to the punch.
That rifle will make for a dandy deer slayer. Would also be a great bear gun with 180 gr bullets.
Does the rifle have the barrel rib and shark fin front sight?
JD338
That rifle will make for a dandy deer slayer. Would also be a great bear gun with 180 gr bullets.
Does the rifle have the barrel rib and shark fin front sight?
JD338
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nomosendero
Handloader
- Apr 13, 2006
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Yes & you can load reduced recoil ammo as well.
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Reduced?
Cartridge : .308 Win.
Bullet : .308, 100, Hornady SJ 3005
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.700 inch or 68.58 mm
Barrel Length : 18.0 inch or 457.2 mm
Powder : Alliant UNIQUE
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-20.0 18 6.40 1242 342 6606 1938 100.0 2.348
-18.0 19 6.56 1265 356 6902 1975 100.0 2.265
-16.0 19 6.72 1289 369 7196 2013 100.0 2.194
-14.0 20 6.88 1311 382 7491 2052 100.0 2.131
-12.0 20 7.04 1332 394 7787 2091 100.0 2.121
-10.0 21 7.20 1354 407 8084 2130 100.0 2.068
-08.0 21 7.36 1374 419 8384 2169 100.0 2.020
-06.0 22 7.52 1394 432 8685 2208 100.0 1.975
-04.0 22 7.68 1414 444 8990 2247 100.0 1.934
-02.0 23 7.84 1433 456 9297 2286 100.0 1.896
+00.0 23 8.00 1452 468 9606 2325 100.0 1.860
+02.0 24 8.16 1471 481 9919 2365 100.0 1.826
+04.0 24 8.32 1489 493 10234 2404 100.0 1.794
+06.0 24 8.48 1508 505 10553 2443 100.0 1.764
+08.0 25 8.64 1525 517 10874 2483 100.0 1.735
+10.0 25 8.80 1543 529 11199 2522 100.0 1.708
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 23 8.00 1482 488 10603 2288 100.0 1.755
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 23 8.00 1409 441 8544 2378 100.0 1.949
Cartridge : .308 Win.
Bullet : .308, 100, Hornady SJ 3005
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.700 inch or 68.58 mm
Barrel Length : 18.0 inch or 457.2 mm
Powder : Alliant UNIQUE
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-20.0 18 6.40 1242 342 6606 1938 100.0 2.348
-18.0 19 6.56 1265 356 6902 1975 100.0 2.265
-16.0 19 6.72 1289 369 7196 2013 100.0 2.194
-14.0 20 6.88 1311 382 7491 2052 100.0 2.131
-12.0 20 7.04 1332 394 7787 2091 100.0 2.121
-10.0 21 7.20 1354 407 8084 2130 100.0 2.068
-08.0 21 7.36 1374 419 8384 2169 100.0 2.020
-06.0 22 7.52 1394 432 8685 2208 100.0 1.975
-04.0 22 7.68 1414 444 8990 2247 100.0 1.934
-02.0 23 7.84 1433 456 9297 2286 100.0 1.896
+00.0 23 8.00 1452 468 9606 2325 100.0 1.860
+02.0 24 8.16 1471 481 9919 2365 100.0 1.826
+04.0 24 8.32 1489 493 10234 2404 100.0 1.794
+06.0 24 8.48 1508 505 10553 2443 100.0 1.764
+08.0 25 8.64 1525 517 10874 2483 100.0 1.735
+10.0 25 8.80 1543 529 11199 2522 100.0 1.708
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 23 8.00 1482 488 10603 2288 100.0 1.755
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 23 8.00 1409 441 8544 2378 100.0 1.949
clearwater
Handloader
- Feb 5, 2005
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I have like that. Nice and light and handy. Excellent accuracy, even with a 2 power scout scope it
can get a few 3 shot groups at 1/2 inch. I use a 1 inch orange stickon bull to be able to see at 100 yards.
However this load is slow but mild.
49 grains w760 2500 fps with a 150 grain bal tip or AccuBond.
Got to 2700 with flat primers using varget at max load, but accuracy was
2.5" @ 100 yards.
An excellent reduced load is 115 grain lasercast bullet for the 32-20
sized to .309" with 14-16 grains of SR4759. Hits golf balls at 50 yards.
can get a few 3 shot groups at 1/2 inch. I use a 1 inch orange stickon bull to be able to see at 100 yards.
However this load is slow but mild.
49 grains w760 2500 fps with a 150 grain bal tip or AccuBond.
Got to 2700 with flat primers using varget at max load, but accuracy was
2.5" @ 100 yards.
An excellent reduced load is 115 grain lasercast bullet for the 32-20
sized to .309" with 14-16 grains of SR4759. Hits golf balls at 50 yards.
Big Squeeze
Handloader
- May 29, 2007
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I have some experience with short barrelled compacts! Here is a good rule of thumb, but it is not absolute until a chrono is used!.....For identical loads, deduct in the area of 15 to 30 fps. in velocity for every inch of barrel length lost!.......An 18.5" vs. a 24" tube should result in a loss of between 82.5 fps. up to 165 fps. If you can get a good deal on that 308, then go for it!!..........Compacts are wonderful in the field!!
