What the?

[OU812]

I was looking at some 338 caliber 250 NP and noticed the prices of 28.99 which seemed like a great deal until I see they are packaged as 25 count. Checked another site, 31.83 per 25, can someone in the know shed some light on this? I always bought 50 count boxes.


Bill

 

[Oldtrader3]

IMHO, this is a good idea with premium bullets for people who want to try them for a few groups of load development. Then if they do not like the bullet or it will not shoot in their rifle, they have not spent the full ride price for 50 bullets.

I also have bought (2) of the (25) lbullet boxes on sale cheaper than (1) box of (50). Someone from Nosler will have to deal with their marketing perspective. I am just weighing in as a long term customer.

 

[OU812]

I get what your saying but from what I have seen so far 29.00 and 32.00 for 25 bullets is hardly a deal. How often is the 25 count boxes on sale? That is priced for the same or more than 50 count swift A frames. If you buy 50 count and don't like them you can sell the rest, buy 25 try them and don't like them would no be worth selling the rest.

I guess it really does not matter but just seems odd to me, raise the price and drop the amount purchased.

 

[FOTIS]

Bill They are packaging some of the bigger and more expensive bullets in 25 packs. Great idea IMO. I get tired of paying a fortune for bullets my gun might hate.

 

[DrMike]

Packaging is expensive, unfortunately. However, it is less expensive than components that set on your shelf unused.

 

[OU812]

Bill They are packaging some of the bigger and more expensive bullets in 25 packs. Great idea IMO. I get tired of paying a fortune for bullets my gun might hate.

Fotis I get what you are saying BUT, the price per bullet is not the same. I see 50 count bullets for about 50.00, (49.79) now your buying 25 for 29-32 dollars, shouldn't 25 bullets cost 25.00 or slightly less? Packaging , shipping ect does not cost more for 25 bullets as it does with 50.

Good for Nosler for selling 25 bullets at a higher cost per bullet than buying 50.

Bill

 

[FOTIS]

I am with you Bill.....

 

[OU812]

I am with you Bill.....

What I do not get, (Ok there are LOTS of things I do not get) is if the 2nds are supposed to be just as good as the firsts other than a blemish, which I have yet to see, why is the cost for firsts so much higher? If it's the box the firsts come in drop the box and cut the price. I would not care if firsts came in a bag rather than a box if the price is cheaper.

I get that the price to manufacture, package, ship ect.. the bullets is going up for everyone but it can't cost more to make a first over a 2nd if they are equal other than a blem.

I'm not picking on Nosler but I can't afford to shoot firsts at the price they sell at (thinking partitions here). Maybe cut the price and sell twice as much?

Bill

 

[OU812]

Packaging is expensive, unfortunately. However, it is less expensive than components that set on your shelf unused.

I agree but it's also cheaper to lower the cost while still making a profit and sell 2 times as much as leaving them on the shelves.

 

[DrMike]

Your point is well taken, Bill. However, I suspect that the seconds recover costs without earning profits, whereas the firsts are sold with a view to underwriting the company.

 

[Oldtrader3]

Product cost is normally broken down by accountants into 4-5 catgories, depending on type of company (for profit) and whether public or not. COGS (cost of goods sold or standard cost) contains all component and direct tooling cost, indirect overhead (mechanics, QA, set-up people, machinests etc.) and their labor cost, plus fixed overhead (PPE, fixed admin, plant related). Only direct costs and indirect are affected by volume. All fixed overhead, SSGA, Admin, Promotion and Advertizing are budgeted regardless. Add to this taxes and accruals for benefits (Social Security, Medcare et cetera as part of indirect overhead.

What this leaves for most smaller privately owned companies is that only about 1/3 of total revenue is variable (labor and direct materials). Another 1/3 is fixed cost and the last third pays taxes, insurance, utilities and is profit. Consider also that each incremental add of a unit of production capacity (a new line for instance) requires more capital and interest expense than it yeilds in profit, at least initially. It would be nice if it was that easy.

 

[OU812]

I guess my bottom line thought is that if you could only buy and shoot Nosler firsts at the current price how many would you be shooting through out the year?

I LOVE the NP bullet but with out the 2nds I would not be shooting them other than big game hunting. Just a cold hard fact of the times we live in, well at least for me anyway.

 

[SJB358]

I guess my bottom line thought is that if you could only buy and shoot Nosler firsts at the current price how many would you be shooting through out the year?

I LOVE the NP bullet but with out the 2nds I would not be shooting them other than big game hunting. Just a cold hard fact of the times we live in, well at least for me anyway.

I agree with everything you have said Bill. I got a box of 250 PT's on accident for the prices you were talking. Thought I got a deal. Felt like I got screwed when I realized there was only 25 of them!!!

I do shoot 2nds, and try to use another bullet for practice. The Sierra 250 is a good pair with the 250 PT or AB. Or at least good enough for 338 ranges. With the 30 cals, I shoot AB's for hunting and BT's for deer or steel..

 

[Oldtrader3]

I shoot seconds also. You gotta be quick on some calibers! They do not last long usually. It is nice to be able to buy them for the price and quality wise, most have been great. I do weigh them before loading, just to be sure. With the smaller calibers, they don't vary very much.