muzzleblast525
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Which would you get to put on a Browning A-Bolt in 25/06?
Which Scope?
- Thread starter muzzleblast525
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Ziess or Leupold :wink:
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Leupold Mark 4 4.5x14PR.
You can dial in your range.
JD338
You can dial in your range.
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Depends on the budget. I have an Elite 3200, although with the standard duplex reticle, not the firefly. I love it. I have no complaints whatsoever. I do, however, have a newfound respect for the Conquest line from Zeiss. I am in fact saving up for a 4.5-14x40 Conquest for a Weatherby I got a while back. I really think they are the best optics for the dollar out there. Now, that said, if I had only a couple hundred dollars to spend, I would not feel underglassed with the 3200 from Bushnell, either. I looked at every 4-16x40 class scope out there, though, and at high power, the Zeiss beats the rest hands down. In 3-9, the story is not so graphically different, but for $379 online delivered, the 3-9x40 Conquest is a great deal, if it is in your budget. You really can't go wrong with any of the three you listed, but if you're going cheaper, go with the 3200 Bushnell, as it is still a great scope for the money.
Richracer1
Handloader
- May 12, 2005
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I have Leupold Vari-X III, VX-II, Nikon Monarch UCC, and an Elite 4200 T-Dot. Take your pick as these are all fine scopes.
While the Conquest is a great choice optically, I think it is poor choice functionally. (For this setup)
Given the game taken with a 25-06, and the design of the A-bolt, I believe size and weight should be significant concerns when choosing your scope. (Neither of which are strong points for Conquest or Bushnell)
I would suggest seriously considering the Leupold VX-III's. (Of course if weight and cost are not a concern then the Conquest would be the obvious choice.)
JRH
Given the game taken with a 25-06, and the design of the A-bolt, I believe size and weight should be significant concerns when choosing your scope. (Neither of which are strong points for Conquest or Bushnell)
I would suggest seriously considering the Leupold VX-III's. (Of course if weight and cost are not a concern then the Conquest would be the obvious choice.)
JRH
Desert Fox
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- Aug 14, 2006
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If this is a dual purpose rifle for deer and varmint hunting, I'll opt for a 4.5 X14 or 4X16 magnification. My first choice would be the Burris Fullfield II with ballistic flex reticle. I have this one mounted on my 243 Sako Forrester. Excellent glass for the price. Bushnell 3200 is another fine rifle scope. A friend has one of this mounted on his Savage 300 WSM;very good glass. For a little more money, the Nikon Monarch is my first choice followed by the Bushnell 4200 elite. There are tons of scope out there that will be ideal for your rifle cartridge combination. It's just a question of preference and how much are you willing to spend. Goodluck :wink:
JRH":xi169ey0 said:
Lets compare as I don't see the arguement you've made to be 100% accurate:
VXIII 3.5x10x40 ($470)
L - 12.5" W - 13oz
Bushnell Elite 3200 Firefly 3x9x40 ($210)
L - 12.6" W - 13oz
Bushnell Elite 4200 Firefly 2.5x10x40 ($380)
L - 13.5" W - 16oz
Zeiss Conquest 3x9x40 ($400)
L- 12.9" W - 13oz
The only one that is considerably longer and heavier is the 4200! The 3200 and VXIII are near matched. The Conquest is same weight but .4" longer.
User must still deceide what is best for them, But I'd pick the Zeiss Conquest - itched reticle, 4" constant ER, 1 piece tube and optical performance for 400 it seems like an easy choice to make. BTW I own or have owned each of these scopes (exception no firefly reticle). Loopy and Zeiss are a cut above but the elite 3200 is still imo one of the best bangs for your 200 bucks. The 4200 is too heavy and I agree it really takes itself out of the equation in most situations.
Just my penny worth.
Good Luck
VX-III 4.5-14x40mm =13.2 oz
VX-III 4.5-14x50mm =16.0 oz
Bushnell Elite 4200 4-16x40 =18.6
CONQUEST 4.5-14x50 =19.75
VX-III 3.5-10x40mm =13oz
ZEISSCONQUEST 3-9x40 =13.75 oz.
ZEISS CONQUEST 3.5-10x44 =16oz
Bushnell Elite 4200 2.5x10x40 =16oz
VX-II 3-9x40mm =12oz
Bushnell Elite 3200 3x9x40 =13oz
VX-III 2.5-8x36mm =11.6 oz
ZEISS Conquest 2.5-8x32 =13.75 oz.
VX-III 1.75-6x32mm =11.2 oz
Bushnell Elite 4200 1.5-6x36mm =15.4 oz
ZEISS Conquest 1.8-5.5x38 =18 oz
VX-II 3-9x33mm Ultralight =8.8 oz
ZEISS Conquest No Options Available
Pretty clear that the Leupolds are in fact lighter all around...How much of a difference that makes all depends on which model one chooses.
Most important to this topic of discussion, (Light weight optics) is the fact that Zeiss offers absolutely no weight savings in their lower powered optics making the VX-III's even more attractive when medium to low powered optics are desired.
Finally, if minimizing weight is a very important concern for any specific reason the Leupold VX-II Ultralight is really the only game in town. (As evidenced by the fact that EVERY Zeiss Conquest weighs at least a full 1/4lb more than the Ultralight)....How important the issue of weight is to any given person is a matter for that individual to decided. However, it is clear that the higher the priority the shooter places on weight reduction the more attractive the already desirable VX-III's become!
JRH
VX-III 4.5-14x50mm =16.0 oz
Bushnell Elite 4200 4-16x40 =18.6
CONQUEST 4.5-14x50 =19.75
VX-III 3.5-10x40mm =13oz
ZEISSCONQUEST 3-9x40 =13.75 oz.
ZEISS CONQUEST 3.5-10x44 =16oz
Bushnell Elite 4200 2.5x10x40 =16oz
VX-II 3-9x40mm =12oz
Bushnell Elite 3200 3x9x40 =13oz
VX-III 2.5-8x36mm =11.6 oz
ZEISS Conquest 2.5-8x32 =13.75 oz.
VX-III 1.75-6x32mm =11.2 oz
Bushnell Elite 4200 1.5-6x36mm =15.4 oz
ZEISS Conquest 1.8-5.5x38 =18 oz
VX-II 3-9x33mm Ultralight =8.8 oz
ZEISS Conquest No Options Available
Pretty clear that the Leupolds are in fact lighter all around...How much of a difference that makes all depends on which model one chooses.
Most important to this topic of discussion, (Light weight optics) is the fact that Zeiss offers absolutely no weight savings in their lower powered optics making the VX-III's even more attractive when medium to low powered optics are desired.
Finally, if minimizing weight is a very important concern for any specific reason the Leupold VX-II Ultralight is really the only game in town. (As evidenced by the fact that EVERY Zeiss Conquest weighs at least a full 1/4lb more than the Ultralight)....How important the issue of weight is to any given person is a matter for that individual to decided. However, it is clear that the higher the priority the shooter places on weight reduction the more attractive the already desirable VX-III's become!
JRH
Each person should select optics for their own eye. Thats the way the eye doctor does it. He asks you what you can see better with and does not tell you.
I started with Lyman scopes and they were pretty good. Later Lyman folded and I got ten Leupolds. For the most part the Leupolds were like a variable Lyman.
Then I got my first Conquest scope. To my eye the Conquest handles glare much better with greater resolution in a sunfield and a much easier to see redicule. I would not buy another Leu type old design scope. Now I have five Ziess scopes.
I am keeping the Leu's as they are a little better than the decades old Lymans but not by much.
Look thru the scopes yourself, thats the only way to know.
I started with Lyman scopes and they were pretty good. Later Lyman folded and I got ten Leupolds. For the most part the Leupolds were like a variable Lyman.
Then I got my first Conquest scope. To my eye the Conquest handles glare much better with greater resolution in a sunfield and a much easier to see redicule. I would not buy another Leu type old design scope. Now I have five Ziess scopes.
I am keeping the Leu's as they are a little better than the decades old Lymans but not by much.
Look thru the scopes yourself, thats the only way to know.
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What did you decide on?
Greg Nolan
Handloader
- Nov 25, 2004
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One more opinion(We all have one). I have all the above and the Zeiss has the better everything now with the "Rapid Z" BDC. I don't have one with rapid Z because it's new. The Leupold is great but it has a smaller field of view and the Zeiss is a bit more crystal clear in my opinion. The Burris is great but a bit big. Bushnell is kinda long. Swarovski has it all and costs like it. Try them out in person because only you will know when you've found the one thats just right for you.
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