So I have never used the VIHTAVORI powders but I got there latest manual for x-mas. Just skimming thru I never seen too much extra ordinary except for 1 load with N560 fed primers for the 7MM RM, pushing a 160 gmk at ...... 3114! Mmm yes even faster then all the 7 mm weatherby loads. I was wondering about pursuing this maybe with an 160 AB and see . Maybe some one has dabbled with this already?