Well maybe it's me but I'm really contamplaiting about switching back to partitions. The very first day off rifle season my budy knocked down his cow moose 30-06 and 165 gr AB, 80yrd shot thru willows, the first shot went thru front shoulder both lungs, off side shoulder, and was in under the hide perfect shot right? we gave her 10 min as at the shot she dropped in her tracks, when we went down to tag her she jumped up and tried to run second shot thru back of head solved the problem. the bullet penetrarted very deep not much for expansion. Fast forward 2wks later, I finally found a cow mosse to fill my tag &mm rem mag 160 gr AccuBond, 50 yrd shot in willows the only opening I have is a head/neck shot, tryed to wait them out but the bull winded me and took off, so the cow takes one last look in my direction and I squeeze one off. She flops over all 4 feet in air, I worked the bolt Knelt down to pick up my brass and I hear a crash, see my cow fleeing, she ran past the brother in law at 40 yrds so he puts one in her and puts her down. The hole in her neck was 4" straight thru, could pretty much put your hand thru from one side to the other. I had pretty much the exact situtation 2yrs ago using 160 gr parts, hit the neck at 30yrds and was a one shot kill. the bullet recovered from the first moose weighed 141.2 gr. Maybe I'm superstitous but I don't like seeing animals get back up after a solid hit from such a close range, when loaded with partions I never worried about it like I do with the Ab's.
Why I like accubonds
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Reading the details of the shots and distances that you were shooting, the Partition may be a better choice for you. The discription of your buddy's shot makes it sound like that cow would have expired soon, with both lungs being punched. It is important to anchor moose as close to where they are spotted as possible. Anyone that has had to chase one through the bush and pack it out to a boat or canoe will understand that.
The cow you shot may have had a big hole in the neck, but no bullet fragments must have hit the spine to keep her where she initally dropped.
I had a similar shot on a bull a couple years ago that was shot in the neck (210 grain Partition out of a 338-06). He was knocked off his feet and could not move since the spine was broken.
I have seen moose soak up 250 grain bullets from 338 Win-mags, and keep on chugging for quite a distance after fatal shots. I am a big fan of both the AB and Partition bullets, but use the Partition bullet when most shots will be under 200 yards and light brush may be involved. Sounds like you have some great eating for the next year!
Reading the details of the shots and distances that you were shooting, the Partition may be a better choice for you. The discription of your buddy's shot makes it sound like that cow would have expired soon, with both lungs being punched. It is important to anchor moose as close to where they are spotted as possible. Anyone that has had to chase one through the bush and pack it out to a boat or canoe will understand that.
The cow you shot may have had a big hole in the neck, but no bullet fragments must have hit the spine to keep her where she initally dropped.
I had a similar shot on a bull a couple years ago that was shot in the neck (210 grain Partition out of a 338-06). He was knocked off his feet and could not move since the spine was broken.
I have seen moose soak up 250 grain bullets from 338 Win-mags, and keep on chugging for quite a distance after fatal shots. I am a big fan of both the AB and Partition bullets, but use the Partition bullet when most shots will be under 200 yards and light brush may be involved. Sounds like you have some great eating for the next year!
Yeah it's super eating the zone where we hunt is agricultural area not all bush, both of these cows were shot very close to alfa-alfa fields. we seen several moose in and around these fields, but like all moose as soon as they had abelly full they headed straight for the biggest, willow chocked brush they could find.
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I've had several animals drop in their tracks, then jump back up. It's almost always been with a high shot, just catching the top of the shoulderblades. Flips them over like a wrestler. I've seen them actually land on their back with their feet in the air. It doesn't matter what bullet you use, it's the placement that causes this effect. Ballistic tip, Solidbase, Partition, and even a Swift Scirraco. They can all do it.
And this was a Moose. When it comes to moose and elk, it doesn't hurt to shoot them twice.
And this was a Moose. When it comes to moose and elk, it doesn't hurt to shoot them twice.
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How true! I've watched about a score of animals drop to AccuBonds, including bison, elk, moose, mule deer and whitetail. I certainly don't hesitate to use Partitions, but the AccuBonds work very well indeed.
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more AccuBond action.
Every year I try to take 4 or so folks out and let them get a taste of shooting long range. The stipulations are, they will shoot between 500 and 600 yards, ( because in my experience, you need to practice beyond 600 to hit consistantly) I furnish the gun, ammo, and advise them before and during the shot.
So my 3 days of hunting the late antlerless season, I had newbs take deer at 520,520, and 575 with the Big 7, I also took one at 1005 yards
all those with the 160 gr AccuBond.
even at an impact velocity 2050 fps the AccuBond left a quarter sized exit hole behind a deers shoulder after hitting nothing but 1 rib.
wish nosler would offer a 190 gr 7mm AccuBond, I wouldn't have to change brands of bullets to shoot a mile.
RR
Every year I try to take 4 or so folks out and let them get a taste of shooting long range. The stipulations are, they will shoot between 500 and 600 yards, ( because in my experience, you need to practice beyond 600 to hit consistantly) I furnish the gun, ammo, and advise them before and during the shot.
So my 3 days of hunting the late antlerless season, I had newbs take deer at 520,520, and 575 with the Big 7, I also took one at 1005 yards
all those with the 160 gr AccuBond.
even at an impact velocity 2050 fps the AccuBond left a quarter sized exit hole behind a deers shoulder after hitting nothing but 1 rib.
wish nosler would offer a 190 gr 7mm AccuBond, I wouldn't have to change brands of bullets to shoot a mile.
RR
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I would say with the amt. of 180 gr. Bergers being sold the market exists.
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Bruce Mc":2lem0ot9 said:
A standard 9 twist would stabilize a 190 gr in the 7 Rum, 7 STW, and larger wildcat chamberings. I've shot 200 gr wildcat vld's in a 9 twist, pretty impressive.
The 7mm RM's don't really have the powder capacity to really excell with a heavier than 160 gr anyways.
RR
The only AB's I have used was this year. The 130 AB in my 264 Win mag. I am getting 3350 fps with them and tack driving accuracy. I killed 4 deer with the 130 AB this year from 98 to 275 yards and all were DRT. Two were front shoulder out through the center of the off side ribs shots and one was through and through both shoulders and exits were the size of a golf ball. The forth was facing me slightly angling. Bullet entered the front edge of the left shoulder destroyed it and made soup of the vitals and was found in the right ham when cutting up the meat. The bullet was a text book mushroom and weight was 71 grs. I like those Accubonds.
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Congratulations on your mentoring and success. I just wish I was a little closer to ya. :wink:
JD338
Congratulations on your mentoring and success. I just wish I was a little closer to ya. :wink:
JD338
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