Winchester High Wall's

[SJB358]

Anybody ever shot any of these. Someday I would love to have one of these beasts and a 300 H&H would be a cool one. I know we hear alot about the #1's for good reason, but I was wondering if any of you have any experience with them?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =293153544

 

[DrMike]

I worked up load in one chambered in 257STW. It shot surprisingly accurately.

 

[SJB358]

Wow, that is a screamer Mike. How does it feel? Pretty balanced rifle. 28" tubes on some of them I think?

 

[6mm Remington]

Scotty my 26" barrel on my #1B makes the rifle just slightly longer than my wife's 22" 700 MTN rifle in 25-06. They carry really nicely. I like the looks of the Winchester, but aren't the single shots made by Browning for Winchester in Japan, or am I wrong on that?

 

[SJB358]

Not sure David? They look pretty sharp to me though.. I haven't ever owned a single shot, but I like the looks of them and the octagonal barrel is pretty sharp too..

 

[PJGunner]

Scotty my 26" barrel on my #1B makes the rifle just slightly longer than my wife's 22" 700 MTN rifle in 25-06. They carry really nicely. I like the looks of the Winchester, but aren't the single shots made by Browning for Winchester in Japan, or am I wrong on that?

I have a Browning B78 which is a neat clone of the High Walls and frankly, it's more accurate than the two Ruger #1 Bs I have in 30-06 by a long shot. Oh, yes it too is a 30-06. it's made in Japan and that doesn't bother me at all. My only gripe it the trigger could us some work but I shoot it well enough that it doesn't bother me. My other Brownings are also made in Japan, an 1895 Winchester clone in 30-06 and a BLR in .358 Win. They all shoot well. Currently, I'm considering having both Browning 06's converted to .35 Whelen. What can I say? I'm a .35 caliber junkie. :lol:
Paul B.

 

[DrMike]

The High Wall I shot gave more than acceptable accuracy. I didn't open the throttle all the way on it, however. It was stepping out there, though, as I recall.

 

[BK]

When Browning was still making them, I had designs on a Low Wall in .22 Hornet and a High Wall in .22-250. Didn't have the cash to make it happen, unfortunately.

 

[257 Ackley]

Anybody ever shot any of these. Someday I would love to have one of these beasts and a 300 H&H would be a cool one. I know we hear alot about the #1's for good reason, but I was wondering if any of you have any experience with them?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =293153544

Never had a high wall, only a low wall in 25-06. It shot decent groups, but never as good as a well made bolt rifle.

 

[Guy Miner]

Good looking rifles, but I've never shot one.

Grandpa had a .219 Zipper built on a Low Wall for longish range ground squirrel shooting. One of my cousins ended up with that rifle. Who knows where it is now?

Guy

 

[FOTIS]

Played with one in 25-06. Great gun!

 

[JD338]

Pretty nice rifle.

Scotty, the 375 H&H would be cool.

JD338

 

[tddeangelo]

Maybe a dumb question-

Are these still in production?

My dad has been on this on-again-off-again kick for a single shot. He's borrowed an Encore and been less than enthused with the accuracy. He had a Ruger No1 in 6mm Rem that shot real well, as well as a No3 in 45-70 that also shot really well, but a buddy of his who worked a gun counter (and had access to a good gunsmith as a result) had a No1 in 7x57 that couldn't reliably do better than 2-3" at 100 yards, and Ruger basically said "that's within spec". Now he's shy of a No1.

A High Wall might be the ticket for him...?

 

[FOTIS]

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[PJGunner]

"had a No1 in 7x57 that couldn't reliably do better than 2-3" at 100 yards, and Ruger basically said "that's within spec". Now he's shy of a No1."

You should have your friend do a chamber cast on that 7x57 #1. I had one that was worse than that and I got the same drivel from Ruger. My gunsmith did a chamber cast and found that the throat was way out of specs. A 2.5" freebore is what I had. I sent the gun back to Ruger with a copy of my gunsmith's report and while it took them over 7 months to get the gun back to me, it's a very decent shooter now with 140 gr. Nosler Balistic Tips doing one inch or less and 175 gr. Hornady round nose bullets in the .75" range. I plan to hunt that rifle as it it were 100 years ago, a 175 gr. bullet in the 2300 FPS range. Just depends if I draw a deer where I plan to hunt. If not, it'll be either the custom Mauser or M70 Featherweight 7x57 that does the hunt.
I have a small collection of Ruger #1 rifles ranging from .22 Hornet to the might .416 Rigby. Right now, of the 21 rifles I have, only two don't shoot worth spit. Both are #1B's in 30-06. I have two "B" modlels in 25-06 and one its a tackholer and the other just adequate. I have three in .300 Win. mag., one "B" modlel and two "S" models. The "B" and one "S" shoot less than .75". I haven't shot the third one yes and it's one of "200th Year of American Liberty" models. I also have another 200th Year gun, a "B" model in 7MM Rem Mag. but I haven't shot it yet.
So far, most of the "A" model, the few S"S models and the "H" models have shot fairly well for me. Other than the "B" models in .300 Win. Mag. results have been about half and half with the two 06s and one 25-06 being disappointing. I just have to sit down and do some tinkering on them and they'll shoot just fine. One of the 06's is planned to be rebarreled to .35 Whelen so i won't mess with it.
The "B" models that I have found to be extremely accurate are the .22 Hornet, 6MM Rem., .257 Robt. and one of the 25-06s. I haven't done enough with the second 25-06 to determine just what it can do. The Hornet and 6MM Rem are both half inch guns, the .257 and the one 25-06 shoot in the .75" range. The really super accurate #1 I have is a #1V in .223 Rem. If I shoot a goup larger than .25", it's because I screwed up. I hasten to add that all my #1 rifles are earlier ones with the so called bad Wilson barrels.
For any big game rifle, I consider a consistant 1.5" group or smaller, preferably small to be just fine. The key word is consistant. All my Number One rifles will do that except the two 30-06's. I haven't a bloody clue why and I've had one since 1975. (It was my first one.)
Paul B.

 

[onesonek]

They are a beautiful rifle to say the least Scotty. I haven't shot one as yet, but would like to see how one handles. My only concern, and may be unfounded as it is,,,is the lever design. Just seems to put the grip in an awkward position for me at first glance. But I need to get my hands on one to be sure.

 

[wildgene]

They are a beautiful rifle to say the least Scotty. I haven't shot one as yet, but would like to see how one handles. My only concern, and may be unfounded as it is,,,is the lever design. Just seems to put the grip in an awkward position for me at first glance. But I need to get my hands on one to be sure.

...I've used a B78 in .25-06 & Browning '85's in .25-06 & 7mm RM. The design is simple & elegant, the lever is pushed forward w/ the back of the hand, once the locking cam is broken the action falls open by itself, allowing the "trigger hand" (the design is ambidextrous) to collect & load another round. IMO, the trigger & fore end "hanger" are better than the Ruger #1's, accuracy, fit, finish, function on all the ones I've handled has been excellent. The Winchesters are selling for $1250 NIB around here, still seeing some of the 28" barreled "high velocity" chambers, the "new run w/ the 24" barrels look "chopped off" to me...

...hmmm, but the 6.5X55 "Low Wall" is pretty interesting...

 

[SJB358]

They are a beautiful rifle to say the least Scotty. I haven't shot one as yet, but would like to see how one handles. My only concern, and may be unfounded as it is,,,is the lever design. Just seems to put the grip in an awkward position for me at first glance. But I need to get my hands on one to be sure.

...I've used a B78 in .25-06 & Browning '85's in .25-06 & 7mm RM. The design is simple & elegant, the lever is pushed forward w/ the back of the hand, once the locking cam is broken the action falls open by itself, allowing the "trigger hand" (the design is ambidextrous) to collect & load another round. IMO, the trigger & fore end "hanger" are better than the Ruger #1's, accuracy, fit, finish, function on all the ones I've handled has been excellent. The Winchesters are selling for $1250 NIB around here, still seeing some of the 28" barreled "high velocity" chambers, the "new run w/ the 24" barrels look "chopped off" to me...

...hmmm, but the 6.5X55 "Low Wall" is pretty interesting...

I was kinda thinking the same thing Gene. They look slick to me. I like that 28" Octagonal on that 300 H&H..

 

[wildgene]

They are a beautiful rifle to say the least Scotty. I haven't shot one as yet, but would like to see how one handles. My only concern, and may be unfounded as it is,,,is the lever design. Just seems to put the grip in an awkward position for me at first glance. But I need to get my hands on one to be sure.

...I've used a B78 in .25-06 & Browning '85's in .25-06 & 7mm RM. The design is simple & elegant, the lever is pushed forward w/ the back of the hand, once the locking cam is broken the action falls open by itself, allowing the "trigger hand" (the design is ambidextrous) to collect & load another round. IMO, the trigger & fore end "hanger" are better than the Ruger #1's, accuracy, fit, finish, function on all the ones I've handled has been excellent. The Winchesters are selling for $1250 NIB around here, still seeing some of the 28" barreled "high velocity" chambers, the "new run w/ the 24" barrels look "chopped off" to me...

...hmmm, but the 6.5X55 "Low Wall" is pretty interesting...

I was kinda thinking the same thing Gene. They look slick to me. I like that 28" Octagonal on that 300 H&H..

...saw a NIB .300 WSM @ a gun show for $800 a couple yrs. ago, I was only about $770 short... :roll: :mrgreen: