Bullet vote please

[ElmerThud]

I would go with the AB. My Rem. 7400 smears the bullet tip on chambering.

Frankly at 165yds the bullet tip won't make any difference & for this kind of range I'd probably use the Partition. However, it doesn't make much difference as both bullets are very similar (Expanding) on impact.

 

[Hunter26]

Use whatever shoots best, they'll both hammer deer. Accubonds readily expand even on smaller game, I've used them on Bobcats and coyotes & they expanded perfectly. Check the Nosler website for factory seconds & blems. That's all I buy anymore because of the savings. They perform perfectly as well. Accubonds are essentially a tipped Partition in performance. Similar expansion and weight retention. I wouldn't hesitate to use either on Bobcats to elk. Also Ballistic Tips are a good bit tougher than they used to be. That being said, I prefer Accubonds and Partitions.

 

[Wolfshead]

I’ve taken approximately fourteen deer ranging from 100-180 with the 150 grain Accubonds - 30-06, and 308.
I’ve hunted in North Carolina and their deer are small by comparison to the deer I hunt in CNY.
All have been either DRT or with a short track with good blood.
Ive never had one go further than 40 yards.
I would recommend the accubonds for what you’re looking for and would also suggest getting the factory seconds.
I’ve compared the seconds to a box of “firsts” and could find absolutely no differences. So they are what I buy now.
I shot a Buck that was facing me at about 100 yards and the round knocked him over backwards, and the accubonds traveled all the way to the back of one of his hams. That’s pretty good penetration.
Here is a picture of a Doe I shot at about forty yards and you can see the blood on the ground under her. The tracking was easy with a very good blood trail. She ran about forty yards back towards where she came.
The bullet entered just in front of the right shoulder. If you look you cans see the entrance wound.
Also is a picture of a recovered round from a NC Doe I took. Great mushroom and retained about 65% of it’s original weight.

 

[jimbires]

this choice is a flip of the coin . my opinion is ; the Partition is never the wrong choice . the Partition is what all other bullets are judged against

 

[SJB358]

Either one will work just fine. I’d pick the one that shoots the best. You can also use the Ballistic Tip. Grab some seconds to some cost savings and you can use them for practice.

JD338

For deer, put me in the Ballistic Tip camp. No need to spend more on a PT or AccuBond that will not work better than a BT on deer.

 

[TackDriver284]

You wont go wrong with any of those three bullets, AB, Partition or Ballistic Tips. I never shoot in the shoulders of deer, I don't like bloodshot meat, I shoot at the crease behind the shoulder broadside. Ballistic Tips are my go to bullet for deer, and they never go far and exits very well with big holes. AccuBond and Partition are great bullets, and I use them as well, but mostly for medium sized to larger game. It's just my preference.

 

[BruceP]

I have used 130 gr Ballistic tips in my 270 Winchester for our Georgia whitetail deer since I started reloading in the late 80;s early 90's. I have heard of the bullet "blowups" that people talk about but never had one myself this includes high shoulder shots and one that was on the point of the shoulder of a buck that was about 130lbs or so and the bullet was found in front of the opposite ham. A prefect mushroom weighing just over 60 grains. I've only taken one deer with the AccuBond and it was las years doe that was around 100 lbs. It was with a 260 Remington XP100R handgun, a 130 grain AccuBond at a muzzle velocity of 2533 fps at 107 yds. The bullet entered at the last rib on the left side and was found under the hide of the right shoulder after breaking the shoulder. I'm not sure of the weight because I managed to lose the bullet somewhere between the field and my house. having said all that either bullet would work fine for what you need but I would probably pick the AccuBond or the ballistic tip. Well I actually have chosen the 150 grain ballistic tip for use in my 308 Remington XP100 pistol loaded to 2526 fps out of the 14 inch barrel but I have yet to take a deer with that gun yet.

 

[Alaska]

So after doing a lot of reading which I probably shouldn't have done lol
Sounds like the AccuBond is kinda like a bonded Partition with a tip ?

Either way im torn between the Partition and AccuBond...

Our whitetail deer here average about
100-120lbs...

I want to make high shoulder or base of neck shots to drop them right there .

Do I need to worry much about getting good expansion with these shot placements?

Longest shot is 165 yards

So if yall dont mind
Help me decide !

308win , 150gr

AccuBond OR Partition ?

Either will work at the ranges you selected .
Question is do you need a premium bullet for a 120/150lb deer ? Think not !
I suggest take a good look at the Speer 150gr Hot Core SP and Hornady 150gr Interlock SP .
Great choice 308 Win suggest for reloading CFE 223 or Varget and IMR 4985.

 

[cjmac]

Frankly at 165yds the bullet tip won't make any difference & for this kind of range I'd probably use the Partition. However, it doesn't make much difference as both bullets are very similar (Expanding) on impact.

I want that fast expansion and bone crushing power if needed . Needs to open fast on our little deer lol

 

[cjmac]

Use whatever shoots best, they'll both hammer deer. Accubonds readily expand even on smaller game, I've used them on Bobcats and coyotes & they expanded perfectly. Check the Nosler website for factory seconds & blems. That's all I buy anymore because of the savings. They perform perfectly as well. Accubonds are essentially a tipped Partition in performance. Similar expansion and weight retention. I wouldn't hesitate to use either on Bobcats to elk. Also Ballistic Tips are a good bit tougher than they used to be. That being said, I prefer Accubonds and Partitions.

Thats what I was hoping to hear. I was thinkikg the same the was it was designed. AB pretty much a tipped and bonded Partition?

 

[cjmac]

I’ve taken approximately fourteen deer ranging from 100-180 with the 150 grain Accubonds - 30-06, and 308.
I’ve hunted in North Carolina and their deer are small by comparison to the deer I hunt in CNY.
All have been either DRT or with a short track with good blood.
Ive never had one go further than 40 yards.
I would recommend the accubonds for what you’re looking for and would also suggest getting the factory seconds.
I’ve compared the seconds to a box of “firsts” and could find absolutely no differences. So they are what I buy now.
I shot a Buck that was facing me at about 100 yards and the round knocked him over backwards, and the accubonds traveled all the way to the back of one of his hams. That’s pretty good penetration.
Here is a picture of a Doe I shot at about forty yards and you can see the blood on the ground under her. The tracking was easy with a very good blood trail. She ran about forty yards back towards where she came.
The bullet entered just in front of the right shoulder. If you look you cans see the entrance wound.
Also is a picture of a recovered round from a NC Doe I took. Great mushroom and retained about 65% of it’s original weight.

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Surprised you found the bullet ? AB seems like a tipped and bonded Partition . Opens fast and holds together

 

[cjmac]

You wont go wrong with any of those three bullets, AB, Partition or Ballistic Tips. I never shoot in the shoulders of deer, I don't like bloodshot meat, I shoot at the crease behind the shoulder broadside. Ballistic Tips are my go to bullet for deer, and they never go far and exits very well with big holes. AccuBond and Partition are great bullets, and I use them as well, but mostly for medium sized to larger game. It's just my preference.

I prefer base of neck shots but sometimes we just have to go through the shoulder with the given shot we have to take at the second we get one

 

[cjmac]

The AccuBond sounds like the way to go.. you get the best of both worlds fast expansion plus the phone crushing power

 

[Wis65x55]

Thought about the ballistic tip , but I hear it kinda disintegrates if hits bone?

The only ones prone to disintegrate are the varmint grade; I also know of people that have used ballistic tips on large pigs and 400 pound black bear without a problem. Considering this, I am not the least bit concerned!

 

[JD338]

The BTs today have evolved into some darn good bullets.

308 Win Load Development

I took advantage of the break in the weather and shot a few rounds in the Nosler M21 308 Win. I think IMR 4064 is the powder for the 308 Win. 150 gr BT 46.0 grs IMR 4064, Nosler case Fed GM210 primer. Avg MV 2832 fps from a 22" barrel. Just need to play with the seating depth and tighten up...

forum.nosler.com

JD338

 

[6mm Remington]

AccuBond or Partition. Either one will work perfectly.

 

[cjmac]

The only ones prone to disintegrate are the varmint grade; I also know of people that have used ballistic tips on large pigs and 400 pound black bear without a problem. Considering this, I am not the least bit concerned!

Dang . Pigs are tough !

 

[Blkram]

As repeated several times above, the one that shoots best in your rifle.
Honestly, either bullet (AB or PT, and including the BT), or any other cup and core bullet will work fine at your velocities and at your typical shooting ranges, on your light deer. Their bone is not going to be as heavy, hard, or dense as larger subspecies of deer found in other parts of North America, or as found in other species of bigger game.
The key is going to be shot placement. Place it in the plexus, the high shoulder shot, or disrupt the spinal cord (smallest target to aim for on a small deer), and they should be DRT, or go very short distances.
I have also taken many deer and larger game with Hdy Interlocks, Speer Hot Cors, Winchester Power Points, and SGKs, and with proper shot placement, have had many of those animals go less than 25 yards from the point of impact.

 

[cjmac]

As repeated several times above, the one that shoots best in your rifle.
Honestly, either bullet (AB or PT, and including the BT), or any other cup and core bullet will work fine at your velocities and at your typical shooting ranges, on your light deer. Their bone is not going to be as heavy, hard, or dense as larger subspecies of deer found in other parts of North America, or as found in other species of bigger game.
The key is going to be shot placement. Place it in the plexus, the high shoulder shot, or disrupt the spinal cord (smallest target to aim for on a small deer), and they should be DRT, or go very short distances.
I have also taken many deer and larger game with Hdy Interlocks, Speer Hot Cors, Winchester Power Points, and SGKs, and with proper shot placement, have had many of those animals go less than 25 yards from the point of impact.

I shot one last year with a sierra gameking btsp 150gr at about 90 yards in the base of neck. It just locked up and fell over . I Didn't find the bullet. It was somewhere in the base of neck .As it didn't go through, I should have looked for it. No exit makes me think it just opens fast and dumps energy right then causing massive shock .. from what i understand the AccuBond, and regular green tip ballistic tip does just that

 

[salmonchaser]

Either will work at the ranges you selected .
Question is do you need a premium bullet for a 120/150lb deer ? Think not !
I suggest take a good look at the Speer 150gr Hot Core SP and Hornady 150gr Interlock SP .
Great choice 308 Win suggest for reloading CFE 223 or Varget and IMR 4985.

I’ve a friend heading up to Fairbanks for some sort of family thing, his wife’s cousins ex wife’s cousins wedding or something like that. As a kid I caught all kinds of Grayling out near the fort, is it still good up there? I told him he needs to go exploring.