100g P, or 110g AB??

remingtonman_25_06 · Nov 21, 2005

Nosler-

Would you go with the 100g Partition, or the 110g AccuBond for spike elk?? I have shot everything I am going to shoot in Oregon with my 25-06 except for an elk. It's just somethign I want to do personally. I have accurate loads worked up for both bulelts. I have shot both into wet newspaper as well. Both weighed 65%. Velocities are 3300fps with the 100g and 3100fps for the 110g. I can place my shot perfectly out to 500 yards with either load.

R Flowers · Nov 21, 2005

I am kind of anxious to hear what Nosler has to say on this subject, myself.

I have to admit I am not crazy about the idea of using a 25-06 on elk, though I know it would kill one. I just prefer larger calibers for such large animals. The last two I shot were with 180 Partitions from a 300 Wby Mag.

Having said that, we have shot a bunch of wild hogs with 25-06 and 257 Weatherby rifles.
Based on what I have seen on well over a dozen wild hogs shot with these calibers, I would choose the 100 grain Partition.

The 110 AccuBond kills hogs, for sure. BUT, they tend to run off a ways. For whatever reason, those shot with the 100 Partition have been anchored on the spot, every time!

The AccuBond is a good bullet, but given the Partition's construction and higher velocity, I would choose it.

JD338 · Nov 22, 2005

I would agree with R Flowers on the choice of the PT in 25 cal. What about the 115 gr PT? You would still get the hi velocity but the extra weight might give you an edge in penetration. I realize that you are hunting spike bulls, but they are still big critters.

Regards,

JD338

remingtonman_25_06 · Nov 22, 2005

I got 2 boxes of the 100g NP for my b-day. I have read of more then a couple old gun writers using the old 100g Hornady SP to kill elk out to 300 yards. I know the 115g would be the obvious better choice because of the higher SD, but I just dont have the money right now to buy another box to "try", just yet anyways. I have heard the 120g NP is a little tough for 25-06 velocities, works better for the .257 WM. However, I did buy a box of the 120g NP to try, but I never did shoot anything with them

I might just have to break down and buy the 115g NP. I know the 115g BT kills bears, so the 115g NP should kill elk. I was just hoping I can get the job done with the 100g. With precision placement in the lungs/heart/chest area, I feel it would do the job out to 400 yards.
I will have my .300 RUM with the 200g AB for backup, or the canyon shots. Only problem is sometimes you dont get more then 1 oppurtunity for elk. I think it might also have to do with if the elk are already nervous or have been running, (adrenaline). I realize that elk are a lot tougher when there bloods running. Just hoping I get a nice steady shot at 100-400 yards.

jiggs · Dec 8, 2005

got a buddy that shoots a 120gr Partition for everything from wolves to moose. 5 years ago he got a 51.3 inch moose took 5 steps rolled over and did the funky chicken ....Shot placement

Accubond Believer · Dec 8, 2005

My vote is the same as the others. Pick your shot. You already know that your quartering running away last chance shot you aren't going to get enough penetration - no matter what .25 cal cartridge you are using.
And as has been said throughout other threads if it is still standing shoot again. Good luck with the .25

Steve D. the HP

remingtonman_25_06 · Dec 9, 2005

Does Nosler not wish to chime in on this??? I think I am going to use the 110g AB because the penetration should be greater due to the SD, versus the 100g NP. If I am having second thought, I will just go ahead and buy some 115g NP's and be done with it. I still feel the 120g NP's are built to tough for 25-06 velocities. I just hope I get a standing shot, no running shots or else I'll be wishing I brought my 300 RUM.

NOSLER · Dec 9, 2005

Sorry for the delay.

I would shoot the PT on this one. IF I HAD TO CHOOSE!!!

While I have killed a ton of game with the 25 AB, and a well placed shot would do the job, the PT would have a bit more if a bone got in the way.

THAT IS A TOUGH CALL!!!! No more ones like that.

remingtonman_25_06 · Dec 10, 2005

Thanks for the reply Nosler. It is most appreciated. I was anxious to see what you would have to say. I have another tough question, I think anyways. Say I have a spike standing broadside 350 yards or so, where would you put the 1st shot, behind the shoulder, or in the shoulder? Followed up by a quick 2nd in the shoulder/behind the shoulder? I think I know what everyone is going to say, behind the shoulder. I am a firm believer in ancoring game on the spot, so shoulder shots are more my thing. Only problem is, I know the 25-06 does not have the raw power, or penetration abilities as the bigger magnums with heavier bullets. So I think I may have answered my own question. Either way I am going to keep shooting till the elk is down, just the rules in my camp.

7mmfan · Dec 10, 2005

Spike elk yes, mature bulls no way. As long as you are careful with the shot. The problem lies when shooting at long range and you misjudge the wind. It happens to everyone from time to time. If it hasn't happened to you then you haven't shot enough game at long range to try for elk. As long as your shot is placed properly, the 25-06 will drop a spike cleanly.....good luck.

Brad