Same here, no problems here using a 270 with a 130-150 grain bullet. I’ve learned it’s where you hit them more than anything else.
150gr Accubond LR vs Maine Moose?
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Charlie-NY
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I shot all of my Canadian moose with a 338 RUM. When I finally got a Maine non-res moose tag I took my trusty 45-70. The 402gr Hammer bullet got it done. Go BIG or go home. LOL
DrMike
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As the old saw states, "It's not the arrow; it's the Indian."
Aint nothing wrong with that either Charlie!
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I spend a fair amount of money on my guided hunts. It has always been my feeling that it is better to be slightly over-gunned than under-gunned. I have been presented with game at longer distances than expected and marginal shot angles. Sometimes it was the only shot opportunity I had near the end of the hunt. Knowing that I had enough energy, and plenty of practice, gave me the confidence to take animals that I may not have if I brought smaller cartridges.
My first bull moose flipped over backwards and never moved after a 250gr AccuBond passed through both shoulders. Even the mighty 6.5 Manbun couldn't do that. LOL
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Charlie-NY
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Another reason I prefer to use heavier, rather than lighter, cartridges:
I hunt LR whitetails in NC every year. The deer that appear across expansive soybean fields are almost always just a few yards from the wood line. I normally catch them coming out in the last 10-15 minutes of legal shooting light. While shot placement is the most important element of the harvest, putting enough energy behind a frangible bullet minimizes their ability to run very far and maximizes your chances of getting a DRT kill. It is normally very dark by the time I get out of the elevated blind and across or around a huge field to locate the deer. Having them drop close to where they were shot pays dividends.
BTW - putting a reflective surface on your elevated blind will allow you to range back from your search area to your blind. If you got an accurate range to the game, using your rangefinder to measure back to the blind is very helpful in finding your animal. Incorporating a compass will put you even closer if you took a reading before getting out of the blind.
I hunt LR whitetails in NC every year. The deer that appear across expansive soybean fields are almost always just a few yards from the wood line. I normally catch them coming out in the last 10-15 minutes of legal shooting light. While shot placement is the most important element of the harvest, putting enough energy behind a frangible bullet minimizes their ability to run very far and maximizes your chances of getting a DRT kill. It is normally very dark by the time I get out of the elevated blind and across or around a huge field to locate the deer. Having them drop close to where they were shot pays dividends.
BTW - putting a reflective surface on your elevated blind will allow you to range back from your search area to your blind. If you got an accurate range to the game, using your rangefinder to measure back to the blind is very helpful in finding your animal. Incorporating a compass will put you even closer if you took a reading before getting out of the blind.
I don't disagree with that a bit.
My experience with the .270 is long but thin. I got my first one back in 1973 for $75.00, a commercial FN Mauser. The guy that sold it hadn't even fired itonce. He decided he didn't like the stock. To use a quote from Jack O'Connor, "That stock is so ugly it would abort a lady crocodile." But the gun is very accurate and very lightweight for a Mauser. I guess I've taken maybe three or four deer over the years with the .270 and the last animal was an antelope in New Mexico with a Winchester XTR that came with a McMillan stock from the factory no less. One thing I can say about the .270. It has been the easiest cartridge to find an accurate load for. I mainly run the 150 gr. Sierra Game King which is the bullet I used for the antelop and 150 gr, Nosler Partition during the one time I hunted elk with the .270. No use giving data unless someone has a supply of the long gone WMR powder. I use it in the .280 Rem. and .300 Win. Mag. as IIRC, Winchester stated it was made for the .270 and .300 Win, mag. It sucks terribly in the 30-06 and I kind of consider it to be unsafe in that cartridge. I'll just say I tried it and it was a failure.
I tried playing with the 150 gr. BLR in 7MM in three different 7x57 rifles and in the .280 Rem. but never got it to where I had a usable group I could use for hunting. However, the 160 gr. Speer Grand Slams make tiny bug hole groups. That's with the old two core version of that bullet. I haven't tried the current cup and core version yet.
Most of my deer hunting has been with the 30-06, and later the .308. Elk have been hunted with the 30-06. .300 Win. Mag. but mainly with the .35 Whelen.
I haven't taken any game with the 7x57 yet but will try and see how it works out. I really bought those ABLRs for the 7x57 to give it a little more reach should I have to stick to SAAMI lever loads. Fortunaately I don't and have an excellent load running the 150 gr. Nosler Partition at a little over 2800 FPS. Now, if I can obly draw a tag for a deer or elk, maybe we'll see.
Paul B.
I tried playing with the 150 gr. BLR in 7MM in three different 7x57 rifles and in the .280 Rem. but never got it to where I had a usable group I could use for hunting. However, the 160 gr. Speer Grand Slams make tiny bug hole groups. That's with the old two core version of that bullet. I haven't tried the current cup and core version yet.
Most of my deer hunting has been with the 30-06, and later the .308. Elk have been hunted with the 30-06. .300 Win. Mag. but mainly with the .35 Whelen.
I haven't taken any game with the 7x57 yet but will try and see how it works out. I really bought those ABLRs for the 7x57 to give it a little more reach should I have to stick to SAAMI lever loads. Fortunaately I don't and have an excellent load running the 150 gr. Nosler Partition at a little over 2800 FPS. Now, if I can obly draw a tag for a deer or elk, maybe we'll see.
Paul B.
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One should not forget in this world of magnum calibers and premium bullets:
When I hunted out of Kenora Ontario for Whitetails a guide there told me his father had guided Moose hunts for over fifty years and shot HUNDRED'S of Bulls over in Red Lk area with an old 35 Remington in an old 81 Remington rifle with receiver sight........ Standard Dominion cartridges. So like the good Dr says. It ain't the arrow it's the Injun!
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When I hunted out of Kenora Ontario for Whitetails a guide there told me his father had guided Moose hunts for over fifty years and shot HUNDRED'S of Bulls over in Red Lk area with an old 35 Remington in an old 81 Remington rifle with receiver sight........ Standard Dominion cartridges. So like the good Dr says. It ain't the arrow it's the Injun!
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