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150gr GS GV in 3006
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06 165 TSX?
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Looks like the picture posted nice and clear as always, good job.
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nvbroncrider":3rmvhqif said:
Ogive shape is all wrong......
GS Custom HV 150 gr?
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FOTIS got it right 
I will be loading the GS Custom 150gr HV for my 3006 Marlin. I have loaded this bullet in my Weatherby Mark V 30-06 and reached 3154fps with a 24" barrel and very accurate with the most accurate load moving 3120fps. I am out of RL-17 which would give me in a 22" barrel just at 3100fps. With W760 and possibly Ramshot Hunter I will get 3020fps to 3050fps. The driving bands really make this possible and I have experienced the above mention velocities without going over max due to the GS Custom HV bullet's driving bands. Also, not only are they accurate but very effective on game and better than the TSX or TTSX after using both the GS HV and the Barnes TSX (and TTSX at the end) for a 4 year period from 2006-2010 (also the TTSX into 2011) on hunts with 4 different calibers, ending my field tests with these bullets in 2011.
At that time I had to purchase the GS HV bullets from South Africa (making them hard to come by and shipping was a killer) at the time, and are now produced for the US market right here in the USA in their new manufacturing facility in Indiana. Will be interesting to see how they shoot in my Marlin XL7 30-06 and if accurate I will use them some this coming fall, because I do know how well they perform terminally from past experience.
Now I am not giving up my cup core or bonded bullets, that you all know I like so much. The standard and traditional bullets have a spot to fill and do very well terminally, but I also am very impressed with what I have seen the GS HV Custom bullet do terminally. Anyway, it will be fun developing loads, sharing the data and results with you all and using them on my up coming hunts. I never cease to find a way to have fun when it comes to developing loads, shooting and hunting.
Link to GS Custom Bullets USA: http://www.gscustomusa.com/products.html
I will be loading the GS Custom 150gr HV for my 3006 Marlin. I have loaded this bullet in my Weatherby Mark V 30-06 and reached 3154fps with a 24" barrel and very accurate with the most accurate load moving 3120fps. I am out of RL-17 which would give me in a 22" barrel just at 3100fps. With W760 and possibly Ramshot Hunter I will get 3020fps to 3050fps. The driving bands really make this possible and I have experienced the above mention velocities without going over max due to the GS Custom HV bullet's driving bands. Also, not only are they accurate but very effective on game and better than the TSX or TTSX after using both the GS HV and the Barnes TSX (and TTSX at the end) for a 4 year period from 2006-2010 (also the TTSX into 2011) on hunts with 4 different calibers, ending my field tests with these bullets in 2011.
At that time I had to purchase the GS HV bullets from South Africa (making them hard to come by and shipping was a killer) at the time, and are now produced for the US market right here in the USA in their new manufacturing facility in Indiana. Will be interesting to see how they shoot in my Marlin XL7 30-06 and if accurate I will use them some this coming fall, because I do know how well they perform terminally from past experience.
Now I am not giving up my cup core or bonded bullets, that you all know I like so much. The standard and traditional bullets have a spot to fill and do very well terminally, but I also am very impressed with what I have seen the GS HV Custom bullet do terminally. Anyway, it will be fun developing loads, sharing the data and results with you all and using them on my up coming hunts. I never cease to find a way to have fun when it comes to developing loads, shooting and hunting.
Link to GS Custom Bullets USA: http://www.gscustomusa.com/products.html
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Yup them GS customs rock! The driving bands (first one ever to be employed to my knowledge) really reduce pressures.
This is why I get 3100 fps from the 416 Bee using a 330 gr HV's, If there is any doubt look here!
http://www.gsgroup.co.za/hvbore.html
BTW Anthony and Gina began full production. I talked to them. I have ordered the 416 330 HV.
This is why I get 3100 fps from the 416 Bee using a 330 gr HV's, If there is any doubt look here!
http://www.gsgroup.co.za/hvbore.html
BTW Anthony and Gina began full production. I talked to them. I have ordered the 416 330 HV.
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Looking at Friday morning to test four powders with the GS 150gr HV.
Cartridge on top of rifle is my 180gr Ballistic Tip load
I know some (who always do) will complain about the cost of the bullets saying they can do what the GS does with their standard bullets and for much less. Well you can't do what this bullet does no matter how you want to slice it with standard bullets when it comes to exceptional velocity you get for the cartridge used. You all know how much I like standard bullets and the range of bullets I have tried on hunts and in culling events I have been invited to take part in. Anyway, the bullet is the cheapest thing about your hunt so why cut corners? That is why I have in the past spent the money on North Fork bullets for some hunts. I have seen a GS 150gr HV out of a Ruger Hawkeye 30-06 at 3055fps at muzzle go from a frontal shot in the chest of a bull elk at 60yds and exit the back side of his right rear ham and he folded up and clasped in his tracks. Both me and my hunting buddy (who made the shot, hunting Arizona) were totally surprised, and just stood there looking at each other for a moment. When the elk was dressed the bullet's wound channel was not only impressive but it travel in a perfectly straight line (no major bone was hit on this shot just barely missed the large leg bone in the back leg). He and I were both sold on the GS HV from that day on, just could not get them without a lot of trouble so we only had limited experience with the bullet. I would take it any day over the TSX which I have never been that impressed with though many are. Anyway, since I can get a hold of them much easier and with less shipping difficulty, I will be back to testing them at the range and on game this coming year.
Cartridge on top of rifle is my 180gr Ballistic Tip load
I know some (who always do) will complain about the cost of the bullets saying they can do what the GS does with their standard bullets and for much less. Well you can't do what this bullet does no matter how you want to slice it with standard bullets when it comes to exceptional velocity you get for the cartridge used. You all know how much I like standard bullets and the range of bullets I have tried on hunts and in culling events I have been invited to take part in. Anyway, the bullet is the cheapest thing about your hunt so why cut corners? That is why I have in the past spent the money on North Fork bullets for some hunts. I have seen a GS 150gr HV out of a Ruger Hawkeye 30-06 at 3055fps at muzzle go from a frontal shot in the chest of a bull elk at 60yds and exit the back side of his right rear ham and he folded up and clasped in his tracks. Both me and my hunting buddy (who made the shot, hunting Arizona) were totally surprised, and just stood there looking at each other for a moment. When the elk was dressed the bullet's wound channel was not only impressive but it travel in a perfectly straight line (no major bone was hit on this shot just barely missed the large leg bone in the back leg). He and I were both sold on the GS HV from that day on, just could not get them without a lot of trouble so we only had limited experience with the bullet. I would take it any day over the TSX which I have never been that impressed with though many are. Anyway, since I can get a hold of them much easier and with less shipping difficulty, I will be back to testing them at the range and on game this coming year.
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I have not been able to get to the range yet due to weather and work, but hopefully this coming week to see how my loads do in the Marlin XL7.
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Great!
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How about a 330 416 expanding on an antelope at 452 yards? Lung all over the place.
http://gsgroup.co.za/fotis.html
http://gsgroup.co.za/fotis.html
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I'm very intrigued now. I'm looking forward to your tests. Thanks for posting.
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The deer I killed while testing the GS three years ago were killed from 60yds to 340yds, These do expand well, creating a very good wound channel and the extra velocity helps also and allows for a Monolithic bullet to do a good job much further down range than other monolithic bulles.
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To day went exceptionally well. Tested the 150gr GS HV Custom bullet with four powders in my Marlin XL7 30/06 22" barrel (all loads just under max).
RL-17 = 3076fps average .998" group (ES and DV not low enough)
W760 = 3045fps average 1.211" group (ES and DV not low enough)
IMR4350 = 2923 average .868" group (velocity to low, ES-23 and DV-11)
H4895 = 3055fps .564" group (very good velcity and outstanding ES-7 and DV-4)
Top velocity of the day was 3086fps RL-17
Most accurate group today was IMR4895 at .564" moving 3058fps, 3051fps, 3058fps with average at 3055fps Extreme Spread 7 and Deviation 4
Ballistics for my LR Duplex in my Leupold FX II 6x36mm scope is as follows:
RL-17 = 3076fps average .998" group (ES and DV not low enough)
W760 = 3045fps average 1.211" group (ES and DV not low enough)
IMR4350 = 2923 average .868" group (velocity to low, ES-23 and DV-11)
H4895 = 3055fps .564" group (very good velcity and outstanding ES-7 and DV-4)
Top velocity of the day was 3086fps RL-17
Most accurate group today was IMR4895 at .564" moving 3058fps, 3051fps, 3058fps with average at 3055fps Extreme Spread 7 and Deviation 4
Ballistics for my LR Duplex in my Leupold FX II 6x36mm scope is as follows:
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Mike those #'s look very impressive. I would say that H4895 load will be tough to improve. Looks great!
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NOTE: HV bullets are therefore designed to start mushrooming reliably from much lower speeds than most other premium bullets, typically from around 1000fps. Two to four centimeters of penetration is all that is required to fully expand an HV bullet.
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bbearhntr":2bghjjlf said:
Yeah, staying right here with the H4895.
Muzzle 3055fps engery 3108.4
100yds 2804.8fps engery 2620.1
250yds zero 2454.5 engery 2006.5
400yds 2130.4fps engery 1511.6
500yds 1928.7 engery 1238.9
Would be interested to see how Varget/AR2208 goes, seeing as the H4895/AR2206 went so well and for most applications I would think Varget would fall in between the burn rate of 4895 and R17.
I must say I am one of those blokes that will argue the cost of these bullets is not worth it, but I will qualify that by saying not worth it to me.
Great to read your reports. The narratives really do tell the story of the handloader's journey. Good stuff.
I must say I am one of those blokes that will argue the cost of these bullets is not worth it, but I will qualify that by saying not worth it to me.
Great to read your reports. The narratives really do tell the story of the handloader's journey. Good stuff.
