240 grain bullets for 300 win mag

corbin9191":xx0k38j9 said:
Ok, I would have to agree with you Antelope_Sniper it does have energy. And that is what I am looking for. :grin: Well everyone I guess you have talked me into using the 200 grain accubonds for long range shooting. Does anyone have any good loads that might be able to put me at 3000 fps or faster? Then I will let you know how the results are after hunting season. Thanks
..................Don`t be too concerned or influenced about achieving, what seems to be by some, this magical # of 3000 fps. from the 200 grainer. Doing so would be strictly an ego thing.

Believe me, your game won`t know the difference or its affect at any range between a 3000 fps bullet, vs a 2900 fps bullet, or even vs a 2800 fps bullet. However with most, a 24" barreled 300 Win, will be very hard pressed to reach a velocity of 3000 fps with a 200 gr. bullet while staying at or below max. pressure limits. The max velocity for a 200 grainer according to my Sierra manual using a 26" tubed 300 Win., can fire a 200 gr. Sierra BT @ 3000 fps using 75.0 gr. of IMR 7828. Is that load the most accurate? Only your rifle will know for sure!

For a 200 gr. max load, realistically plan on about 2875 to 2950 fps from your 300 Win. I reloaded a 300 Winny for 35 years and most of my favorite, most accurate 200 gr. loadings chrono`d at between 2800 to 2850 fps.

I`ll gladly take 2800 fps to 2900 fps from a 200 grainer that groups very well at under an inch, as opposed to a load firing at 3000 fps that consistently groups at 2 or 3 inches!! Why? Because that is what my particular individual rifle likes and you simply need to find the loads/components that your rifle likes the best.

Your first concern, is to get the best possible accuracy, ALONG WITH, the best possible velocity at the same time. You must do plenty of load experimentations, playing around with different OAL`s, seating depths, powders, primers, etc. in order to find the best compromises.

If you don`t have one already, get a chronograph to accurately measure your results in both velocity and velocity deviations.

Any load, componentry etc., that is reco`d to you here, may not work as well in your rifle. All that can be done here is to help you narrow things down a little. When I had my 300 Win, one of my favorite 200 gr loadings was 65.5 gr IMR4350 @ 2835 fps. A reduced load yes, but a very accurate one as well.

Your rifle is its own individual, with its own fingerprint.
 
Here is a simulation: Start 10% lower
these are all no more than 62K pressure.


Cartridge : .300 Win. Mag.(W)
Bullet : .308, 200, Nosler AccuBond 54618
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch or 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch or 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.

Matching Maximum Pressure: 62000 psi, or 427 MPa

or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 105 %

These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

144 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.

Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Ramshot Magnum (Big Boy) 102.8 80.3 5.21 2965 99.7 62000 13131 1.198 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517 102.7 80.4 5.21 2965 99.7 62000 13119 1.198 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12 102.5 80.3 5.20 2964 99.7 62000 13091 1.198 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 99.7 74.7 4.84 2959 99.2 62000 13343 1.206 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 97.9 74.9 4.86 2957 100.0 62000 12872 1.213 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO 100.0 78.0 5.05 2953 98.3 62000 13481 1.213 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 104.2 74.3 4.81 2950 99.5 62000 12913 1.195 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 98.6 74.3 4.81 2950 99.5 62000 12913 1.195 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213 99.6 73.9 4.79 2937 99.4 62000 12812 1.193 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 105.0 76.6 4.96 2937 100.0 60349 12346 1.216 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214 103.6 78.9 5.11 2937 99.6 62000 12660 1.190 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 100.0 74.1 4.80 2933 99.9 62000 12760 1.212 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 100.0 74.1 4.80 2933 99.9 62000 12760 1.212 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 100.0 74.1 4.80 2933 99.9 62000 12760 1.212 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR 102.7 74.5 4.83 2932 99.8 62000 12783 1.213 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905 101.3 73.7 4.78 2905 99.1 62000 12528 1.212 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 96.5 70.4 4.56 2894 99.8 62000 12108 1.201 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 97.0 71.1 4.61 2892 99.8 62000 12169 1.209 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570 105.0 81.2 5.26 2890 95.0 53547 14279 1.282
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 97.7 71.7 4.64 2885 99.8 62000 12087 1.209 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350 92.3 67.3 4.36 2878 100.0 62000 11485 1.209 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2 105.0 77.0 4.99 2876 99.1 55922 13124 1.272 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC 99.2 73.6 4.77 2876 98.6 62000 12192 1.205 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 103.2 73.6 4.77 2876 98.6 62000 12192 1.205 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4 95.1 69.7 4.52 2870 99.7 62000 11874 1.209 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 95.1 69.7 4.52 2870 99.7 62000 11874 1.209 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 92.1 69.7 4.52 2870 99.7 62000 11874 1.209 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350 96.9 68.1 4.41 2859 99.5 62000 11787 1.210 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 99.8 70.1 4.54 2857 100.0 62000 11336 1.229 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385 97.1 72.0 4.67 2854 100.0 62000 11583 1.229 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP 92.1 66.8 4.33 2853 100.0 62000 11155 1.223 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 92.1 66.8 4.33 2853 100.0 62000 11152 1.223 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 93.8 68.4 4.43 2851 100.0 62000 10821 1.231 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 95.4 66.9 4.34 2847 100.0 62000 11108 1.242 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904 96.0 69.4 4.50 2845 99.3 62000 11634 1.210 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165 102.3 74.2 4.81 2841 99.9 62000 11350 1.220 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 102.5 72.1 4.67 2830 99.3 62000 11435 1.213 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000 105.0 76.2 4.94 2817 98.7 54257 12338 1.265 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100 105.0 72.8 4.72 2815 100.0 60319 11163 1.261 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907 90.1 64.9 4.20 2812 100.0 62000 11024 1.221 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Retumbo 105.0 77.4 5.02 2757 99.7 47121 12703 1.355
ADI AR 2218 105.0 82.0 5.32 2749 92.0 47182 13898 1.346
Vihtavuori N150 92.5 64.0 4.15 2746 100.0 62000 9740 1.236 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 24N41 105.0 82.0 5.32 2702 87.0 49849 12350 1.324
Vihtavuori N170 105.0 76.2 4.94 2667 92.1 49763 11754 1.357
Hodgdon H870 105.0 79.5 5.15 2664 93.3 42698 13027 1.430
Hodgdon US 869 105.0 82.0 5.32 2628 90.5 42886 12588 1.421
Hodgdon 50BMG 105.0 78.2 5.07 2519 78.7 40966 11479 1.461
SNPE Vectan SP 13 105.0 78.7 5.10 2472 87.4 37487 11328 1.532
Vihtavuori 20N29 105.0 82.9 5.37 2425 82.9 35402 11336 1.568
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520 105.0 78.7 5.10 2410 84.3 35213 11004 1.569
Accurate 8700 105.0 78.9 5.11 2386 84.7 34284 10936 1.575
NC A3502 ,test only 105.0 75.3 4.88 2218 59.8 32588 8599 1.620
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only 105.0 75.3 4.88 2196 64.4 30662 9045 1.666
V1734 7-multiperf ,test only 105.0 75.3 4.88 1576 29.6 16973 4232 2.161
 
POP":kmhql5ld said:
Here is a simulation: Start 10% lower
these are all no more than 62K pressure.


Cartridge : .300 Win. Mag.(W)
Bullet : .308, 200, Nosler AccuBond 54618
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch or 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch or 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.

Matching Maximum Pressure: 62000 psi, or 427 MPa

or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 105 %

These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

144 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.

Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Ramshot Magnum (Big Boy) 102.8 80.3 5.21 2965 99.7 62000 13131 1.198 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517 102.7 80.4 5.21 2965 99.7 62000 13119 1.198 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12 102.5 80.3 5.20 2964 99.7 62000 13091 1.198 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 99.7 74.7 4.84 2959 99.2 62000 13343 1.206 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 97.9 74.9 4.86 2957 100.0 62000 12872 1.213 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO 100.0 78.0 5.05 2953 98.3 62000 13481 1.213 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 104.2 74.3 4.81 2950 99.5 62000 12913 1.195 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 98.6 74.3 4.81 2950 99.5 62000 12913 1.195 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213 99.6 73.9 4.79 2937 99.4 62000 12812 1.193 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 105.0 76.6 4.96 2937 100.0 60349 12346 1.216 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214 103.6 78.9 5.11 2937 99.6 62000 12660 1.190 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 100.0 74.1 4.80 2933 99.9 62000 12760 1.212 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 100.0 74.1 4.80 2933 99.9 62000 12760 1.212 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 100.0 74.1 4.80 2933 99.9 62000 12760 1.212 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR 102.7 74.5 4.83 2932 99.8 62000 12783 1.213 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905 101.3 73.7 4.78 2905 99.1 62000 12528 1.212 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 96.5 70.4 4.56 2894 99.8 62000 12108 1.201 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 97.0 71.1 4.61 2892 99.8 62000 12169 1.209 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570 105.0 81.2 5.26 2890 95.0 53547 14279 1.282
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 97.7 71.7 4.64 2885 99.8 62000 12087 1.209 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350 92.3 67.3 4.36 2878 100.0 62000 11485 1.209 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2 105.0 77.0 4.99 2876 99.1 55922 13124 1.272 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC 99.2 73.6 4.77 2876 98.6 62000 12192 1.205 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 103.2 73.6 4.77 2876 98.6 62000 12192 1.205 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4 95.1 69.7 4.52 2870 99.7 62000 11874 1.209 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 95.1 69.7 4.52 2870 99.7 62000 11874 1.209 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 92.1 69.7 4.52 2870 99.7 62000 11874 1.209 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350 96.9 68.1 4.41 2859 99.5 62000 11787 1.210 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 99.8 70.1 4.54 2857 100.0 62000 11336 1.229 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385 97.1 72.0 4.67 2854 100.0 62000 11583 1.229 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP 92.1 66.8 4.33 2853 100.0 62000 11155 1.223 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 92.1 66.8 4.33 2853 100.0 62000 11152 1.223 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 93.8 68.4 4.43 2851 100.0 62000 10821 1.231 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 95.4 66.9 4.34 2847 100.0 62000 11108 1.242 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904 96.0 69.4 4.50 2845 99.3 62000 11634 1.210 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165 102.3 74.2 4.81 2841 99.9 62000 11350 1.220 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 102.5 72.1 4.67 2830 99.3 62000 11435 1.213 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000 105.0 76.2 4.94 2817 98.7 54257 12338 1.265 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100 105.0 72.8 4.72 2815 100.0 60319 11163 1.261 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907 90.1 64.9 4.20 2812 100.0 62000 11024 1.221 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Retumbo 105.0 77.4 5.02 2757 99.7 47121 12703 1.355
ADI AR 2218 105.0 82.0 5.32 2749 92.0 47182 13898 1.346
Vihtavuori N150 92.5 64.0 4.15 2746 100.0 62000 9740 1.236 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 24N41 105.0 82.0 5.32 2702 87.0 49849 12350 1.324
Vihtavuori N170 105.0 76.2 4.94 2667 92.1 49763 11754 1.357
Hodgdon H870 105.0 79.5 5.15 2664 93.3 42698 13027 1.430
Hodgdon US 869 105.0 82.0 5.32 2628 90.5 42886 12588 1.421
Hodgdon 50BMG 105.0 78.2 5.07 2519 78.7 40966 11479 1.461
SNPE Vectan SP 13 105.0 78.7 5.10 2472 87.4 37487 11328 1.532
Vihtavuori 20N29 105.0 82.9 5.37 2425 82.9 35402 11336 1.568
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520 105.0 78.7 5.10 2410 84.3 35213 11004 1.569
Accurate 8700 105.0 78.9 5.11 2386 84.7 34284 10936 1.575
NC A3502 ,test only 105.0 75.3 4.88 2218 59.8 32588 8599 1.620
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only 105.0 75.3 4.88 2196 64.4 30662 9045 1.666
V1734 7-multiperf ,test only 105.0 75.3 4.88 1576 29.6 16973 4232 2.161
Thank you for all the loads POP, it will come in handy :grin:
 
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