.264 130/140 AB

[phil]

Does anyone here run these at high speed, as in 3300+?
I’m looking for a 0-350yd point and pull the trigger setup, 83gr Sherman Mega case, R23/26 or n570 powder. Whatever it takes, at 28”.

Thanks, Phil

 

[xphunter]

Not me.
I would go with the 140 though, if it was me.

 

[SJB358]

I ran a 130 ABs into water jugs point blank at about 25 yards from my 264 WM at around 3350. Bullet holds up very well and also hunts pretty well.

Like Ernie said, I’d likely opt for 140’s but if I had a pile of 130’s I’d hunt happily.

264 Win Mag 130gr AB

Here is a picture or two of the 130gr AB out of my 264WM. Muzzle velocity was right at 3400. I have since backed it down to 3350. Anyhow, the jugs were at around 20 yards, so I can only imagine the torture these bullets went through at that range. Scotty

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[phil]

I like velocity in this gun, 140’s are in hand, I’ll try them first.
The 110’s at 3400-3420 were awesome in my 25/06AI

The 129 or 130 may be next, I assume the 129 has a shorter bearing surface.

 

[Blkram]

The 129 gr is a LRAB and is a longer, sleeker bullet of the higher BC design than the 130 gr AB.
I ran the 130 gr AB ammo in my 6.5 x 284 Norma when I had it. And it performed well, but was not at the velocities you are running.
I have both the 130 and 140 gr AB on hand, but will be using the 130s in my Creedmoor and the 140s in my Swede just to keep them different, and because of their different case capacities. The 142 gr LRAB is performing well in my 6.5 PRC, and this is the first rifle I have tried the LRAB in that will shoot it well. (But I have only tried it in a couple of other rifles of a different caliber; 280 Rem (150 gr) and 7mm Rem Mag (168 gr), that didn't do well with either).

 

[phil]

The 129 gr is a LRAB and is a longer, sleeker bullet of the higher BC design than the 130 gr AB.
I ran the 130 gr AB ammo in my 6.5 x 284 Norma when I had it. And it performed well, but was not at the velocities you are running.
I have both the 130 and 140 gr AB on hand, but will be using the 130s in my Creedmoor and the 140s in my Swede just to keep them different, and because of their different case capacities. The 142 gr LRAB is performing well in my 6.5 PRC, and this is the first rifle I have tried the LRAB in that will shoot it well. (But I have only tried it in a couple of other rifles of a different caliber; 280 Rem (150 gr) and 7mm Rem Mag (168 gr), that didn't do well with either).

I’m looking for velocity, and the shorter bearing surface of the ABLR would benefit me, there. The added BC of course helps down the line, never a bad thing.
At the advice of a very experienced rifleman, I started sorting ABLR’s to the nearest .001” based on BTO length, with both a Short Action Customs comparator and a Sinclair bullet comparator, and the results are phenomenal. No more flyers.
I’ve shot 5 different powder charge weights 1/2gr apart that yielded an average of around .5 moa for example, in preliminary testing at 100yds. The bullets appear to like being seated very very tight to the lands, when they are actually all the same length.Like .003 off. It’s not the bullet design that causes inconsistency, it is the variation within the box. I have not attempted weight sorting, there may be a correlation between it and the BTO length, not positive.

The variation within a box of bullets is substantial, 100 bullets usually yields 85-90 total that can be sorted into 4-5 groups for use.
The others I use for fouling or maybe a quick pressure test.

It sounds like a lot of hassle, but for hunting purposes only and the performance I’ve seen so far in precision and terminal consideration, I’m happy to do it. It’s hard to beat blown up internals with an exit hole every time. My idea of perfect, there.

 

[SJB358]

Good intel Phil. Never thought of sorting them like that.

 

[Charlie-NY]

I’m looking for velocity, and the shorter bearing surface of the ABLR would benefit me, there. The added BC of course helps down the line, never a bad thing.
At the advice of a very experienced rifleman, I started sorting ABLR’s to the nearest .001” based on BTO length, with both a Short Action Customs comparator and a Sinclair bullet comparator, and the results are phenomenal. No more flyers.
I’ve shot 5 different powder charge weights 1/2gr apart that yielded an average of around .5 moa for example, in preliminary testing at 100yds. The bullets appear to like being seated very very tight to the lands, when they are actually all the same length.Like .003 off. It’s not the bullet design that causes inconsistency, it is the variation within the box. I have not attempted weight sorting, there may be a correlation between it and the BTO length, not positive.

The variation within a box of bullets is substantial, 100 bullets usually yields 85-90 total that can be sorted into 4-5 groups for use.
The others I use for fouling or maybe a quick pressure test.

It sounds like a lot of hassle, but for hunting purposes only and the performance I’ve seen so far in precision and terminal consideration, I’m happy to do it. It’s hard to beat blown up internals with an exit hole every time. My idea of perfect, there.

While sorting for bearing length on the ABLR bullets may be a good idea, I just can't see myself getting in that deep. I'd much rather move on to a bullet that doesn't exhibit that type of variation.

 

[Blkram]

Yes, we can go deep down the rabbit hole!
But that is all part of the adventure!
And each of us has our own limits as to how deep we venture, and there is nothing wrong with that.
In the end, if we achieve the desired results, we are justified in the lengths that we have gone to, to get there!

 

[Hunter26]

If you're looking for that kind of velocity, I'd be inclined to stick with the more stoutly constructed regular Accubonds. I'm sure the ABLR would do just fine as well, but I have never ran them more than 3000 fps or so. I've been very fortunate in getting the ABLR's to shoot without issue. They have been sub-moa in three different guns without a ton of load development. The 129gr has done great in my 6.5x55 & 6.5 PRC as well as the 142 gr in the latter. The 168gr shoots lights out and hits like a sledgehammer in my 7mm PRC. As much as I love ABLR's, if I had to sort them to get them to shoot decent, I'd move on to another bullet.