.270 weatherby magnum problem

[Laker_Taker]

Hello,
I have been having some trouble with my bee. I have had 3 known loads that work great. All three groups between .5 to .7. Now the problem none of the loads work anymore. All loads are around two inches now. I did find the front trigger screw loose. Now all screws are tight and it still will not shoot Checked the scope mounts. The barrel has been cleaned (sweets) and (wipeout) I tried to slide a dollar bill down underneath the barrel with no luck. There is a pressure point at the end of the stock which should be there for a bee I believe. but then a couple of inches up I can't slide it anymore. I took the barrel off and can't see where the problem is. Is there a fix for this. I think the barrel is not free floating anymore and is causing my problem. This is a .270 weatherby magnum super big game master. Any comments welcome.

Thanks Aaron

 

[Guest]

When you say you took the barrel off, you mean you took the action out of the stock, right?

How many rounds have you sent through this gun?

Also, try cleaning it again, just to be sure.

And check the crown for nicks or burrs. That could easily throw off your groups in the way you're witnessing.

Or it could be a bad scope. Do you have another scope to try, one that you know is good?

 

[DrMike]

Check the action screws. They may be overtightened. Dubyam has given you some great advice. The simple things are what usually trip us up. He has certainly covered the gamut of common problems.

 

[Laker_Taker]

When you say you took the barrel off, you mean you took the action out of the stock, right?

How many rounds have you sent through this gun?

Also, try cleaning it again, just to be sure.

And check the crown for nicks or burrs. That could easily throw off your groups in the way you're witnessing.

Or it could be a bad scope. Do you have another scope to try, one that you know is good?

I took the action off of the stock, I have the barrel soaking again with wipeout but yesterday I did not have any color after the last patch. I could of over tightened the screws. I really had to crank on the rear screw to remove. I did not touch that one. I only tightened the front one. do any of you have a proven load of a 270 mag that I could try. I usually shoot 130 partitions with 78 grains of RL 25, another load that was super accurate of 69.5 of RL22 and 150 TSX and another of IMR7828 and 130 accubonds. I have been playing with 130 interbonds and 140 accubonds.

 

[Laker_Taker]

I have only about 75 rounds down this barrel. Also The scope was new but that does not mean anything.

Aaron

 

[rick smith]

Float the barrel, undue pressure from different angles will cause groups to vary.Rick.

 

[Guest]

If you've not changed anything since it was shooting well and now it's gone to pot, there's something too tight or loose or it's copper. Or, it could still be a nick in the crown.

What kind of scope is it?

Have you removed the scope and checked all the mounts? It could be a loose base or ring screw. Or the scope could have let go internally, though that's harder to diagnose. But, I'll tell you, I've seen cases where scopes were going away that produced exactly what you're getting - two groups, divergently placed around point of aim. Funny stuff can happen when shooting rifles.

I'd clean it with something other than wipeout, then check the crown and all the screws/mounts, then go after the scope. If it was shooting well before, the forend pressure isn't likely to be the cause of it shooting poorly now, as it's been consistently there (to varying degrees) all along, so groups should always have been cruddy.

 

[Laker_Taker]

The scope is a Leupold 3.5 x 10 x 40 VXIII. I also have tetra gun care which I am cleaning the barrel out right not. I have not removed the scope as of yet. will give that a try as well.

Thanks Aaron

 

[30-338]

Doesn't your rifle have a stock with bedding block and kreiger barrel?

If the rifle is new I sure wouldn't be doing anything to the stock until you talk to Wby. If you try a new scope mounts are tight/stock screw have right psi and your still having problems I'd call Wby.

 

[blacktailhunter]

Did your rifle shoot good groups before on a clean barrel, or did it like some fouling? I know my rifles do not like the barrel to be too clean. As mentioned before, I would double check all screws, and make sure that the front action screw is not too tight.

 

[Guest]

Something else to remember about the Weatherby synthetic stocks with the full length aluminum bedding block (like your SBGM stock) is that Weatherby recommends you tighten the rear action screw first, then the front. They recommend 65in-lbs, but I'd start with 35in-lbs as a first pass, then final tighten to 45in-lbs, shoot it, and retighten upping it by 5-10in-lbs each time until I found a setting between 45-65in-lbs that would stay tight. Anything beyond that's going to affect accuracy.

 

[Antelope_Sniper]

Is it a wooden stock?
Did the stock swell?
If so, just take some sandpaper and 1" dowel and sand out the tight spot until freefloated again.

 

[Laker_Taker]

The stock is synthetic. I had to barrel off again tonight. When I tighten the rear trigger screw the barrel is floating but when I tighten the front trigger screw it hits the stock. Can't slide a dollar bill between the stock and barrel.

Aaron

 

[Guest]

When you have the rifle out of the stock, take a look and see if there's a set of "bumps" or pads in the barrel channel. These pressure points would probably be about 1-3" back from the end of the forearm, maybe less. And there should be two, sitting just to the right and left of the center of the barrel channel. If your stock has these, I'd consider leaving them in there, as it shot fine with them before. If there are no pads, you may have a stock issue, and a call to Weatherby is in order.

 

[Laker_Taker]

When you have the rifle out of the stock, take a look and see if there's a set of "bumps" or pads in the barrel channel. These pressure points would probably be about 1-3" back from the end of the forearm, maybe less. And there should be two, sitting just to the right and left of the center of the barrel channel. If your stock has these, I'd consider leaving them in there, as it shot fine with them before. If there are no pads, you may have a stock issue, and a call to Weatherby is in order.

When the barrel is off. there are no pads on the stock. Just two synthetic bumps at the fore end of the stock. The gun is 3 years old so there should be no warranty. There is a authorized weatherby smith about 60 miles from my house and I thought I would bring it there to see what he thinks.

Aaron

 

[30-338]

Aaron,
Here is clip on Wby warranty

The Weatherby service policy reads as follows:

“Weatherby is a name that has been synonymous with quality firearms for over 60 years. All Weatherby firearms are manufactured of the finest materials, and have been thoroughly inspected and tested in every phase of production.

Because of the confidence we have in our products, Weatherby does not provide a written warranty, but rather stands behind its reputation for customer service and satisfaction.

Simply stated, we will consider requests for service or repair of Weatherby firearms on a case-by-case basis. A determination will be made, taking into consideration such things as the age and condition of the firearm, and the circumstances surrounding its malfunction or other problem.

Weatherby will not be responsible for defects resulting from ordinary wear and tear, alterations by unauthorized persons, accidents, misuse, use of incorrect or other than factory-loaded ammunition, or failure to provide reasonable and normal maintenance.

Should any Weatherby firearm require service or repair under this service policy, it must be delivered transportation prepaid to an authorized Weatherby Service Center. The product must be accompanied by a proof of purchase, and a letter explaining the problem. The rifle should also be insured by the owner at time of shipment, as Weatherby, Inc. can accept no responsibility for damage or loss in transit. Weatherby will pay all charges to return the product to the owner if it is accepted for service or repair under the provisions of this policy.”