30-06 QL Help Please and any help from the stands would be great too.

[Aussie Wanderer]

Hi Guys,

Just a quick one. I have just recently purchased my first 30-06 and took it to the range today. I was just breaking it in and it is showing enormous promise. I loaded 55 grains of H4350 behind some left over Hornady 178 ELDM's. 9 shots chronographed at an average of 2,722fps with an sd of 6.3fps. Accuracy was really nice. Barrel length is 26 inches. I was wondering how much harder I can lean on this load.

I also have a bunch of 165NBT's loaded behind H4350 and was wondering what the pressure and velocity looks like if you push to 65,000psi and if it really makes much difference compared to 60,000psi? I was planning on swapping out the NBT's to accubonds depending on the game I was chasing.

Other powders I have available to me are Varget, H4831sc, H1000.

Any thoughts or advice from those who have used the 30-06 would be greatly appreciated. From my first little shoot today, I am wondering why it has taken me so long to own one.

Thanks for any help.

 

[sako2]

4350 powders seem to be the right powder for the 30-06. I have a old Mauser that shoost lights out with AA4350 and a 180gn sierra.

 

[Guy Miner]

For several years I made the 165 gr Nosler Ballistic Tip and H4350 my standard load for the 30-06 cartridge. One memorable season I used it on:

Black bear at about 325 yards, one shot kill, recovered the jacket from the off-side hide after a raking shot through the vitals.

Mule deer buck at about 140 yards, facing towards me shot. Instant drop but had to apply a finisher as the first had only gone through one lung. Recovered the bullet from the off-side flank and weighed 106 grains.

Pronghorn antelope broadside at about 245 yards through both shoulders, exit.

Large cow elk at about 340 yards. Through the shoulder blade and destroyed both lungs. Very quick kill, she stumbled downhill maybe twenty yards. Lost the bullet during field dressing.

MV was 2940 fps using 59 grains of H4350. That is a maximum charge according to Hodgdon. Accuracy was very good, easily sub MOA from my 24" Remington 700 CDL. I always kept the rifle zeroed at 200 yards with this load and felt confident in it up close or out to 400 yards or so. Last time I checked a string of fire, I saw a standard deviation of 9 fps.

Ultimate Reloader published my story online: https://ultimatereloader.com/2021/08/23/is-30-06-boring-for-big-game-hunting-results/

H4350 and the 30-06 work very well together, particularly with the 165/168 grain bullets. I only deviated from that load out of curiosity or for Alaska when I wanted a much heavier bullet. Then I stayed with H4350 but chose the deep penetrating 200 grain Partition. Since then I've used various other loads and have learned to respect Ramshot Hunter powder as well.

Regards, Guy

 

[salmonchaser]

I’ve had my 06 since I was 13, that’s something like 57years. I don’t hunt her much anymore but I always keep it ready and in all honesty I keep the magazine loaded with the rifle locked in the safe in case I need to make a shot across ours or the neighbors pasture.
Some recent data; 63.6/180 AB with Rl 26 gave 2918
62.5 Rl 22 /180 tsx gave 2928 an SD of 5.7
I don’t have much Rl 22 left so I only fired four shots the other day. Wood stock with no bedding work it’s not uncommon to adjust her a little year to year.
Good luck with your new 06, great cartridge.

 

[clearwater]

Not bad shooting from such an antiquated cartridge lacking all the "inherently accurate" updates of the cartridges of the last decade.

Right now I have mine set up with 212 ELD x at 2600 fps using Staball 6.5. Maybe for elk season. It really likes 150 and 180 BT's too with Imr 4350.

 

[6mm Remington]

I shoot a Ruger 1B in 30-06 that has a 26" barrel. It loves 165 gr. Nosler Partitions and Accubonds using IMR4350. H4350 which you are using would be fantastic also and I would just stay with that since your rifle seems to really like it.
With 57.4 grs. of IMR4350 and a 165 gr. AccuBond i get 2940 fps with that load. There are other powders that would probably let me get more velocity, but man does it shoot. I only have a fixed 4x Leupold for the scope on this rifle but I sure like it.

 

[DrMike]

I also have a bunch of 165NBT's loaded behind H4350 and was wondering what the pressure and velocity looks like if you push to 65,000psi and if it really makes much difference compared to 60,000psi? I was planning on swapping out the NBT's to accubonds depending on the game I was chasing.

Other powders I have available to me are Varget, H4831sc, H1000.

Any thoughts or advice from those who have used the 30-06 would be greatly appreciated. From my first little shoot today, I am wondering why it has taken me so long to own one.

Thanks for any help.

Cartridge          : .30-06 Spring.  (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .308, 165, Nosler BalTip 30165
Useable Case Capaci: 60.137 grain H2O = 3.905 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon H4350 *T

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   96    51.84   2621    2518   42153   7526     93.3    1.377
-09.0   97    52.42   2650    2573   43539   7615     93.8    1.356
-08.0   98    52.99   2678    2628   44975   7701     94.3    1.337
-07.0   99    53.57   2707    2684   46454   7786     94.7    1.318
-06.0  100    54.14   2735    2740   47996   7868     95.2    1.299
-05.0  101    54.72   2763    2797   49581   7948     95.6    1.280
-04.0  102    55.30   2791    2855   51231   8026     96.0    1.262  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0  103    55.87   2820    2913   52932   8101     96.3    1.244  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0  104    56.45   2848    2972   54686   8174     96.7    1.226  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0  105    57.02   2876    3031   56496   8244     97.1    1.209  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  106    57.60   2905    3091   58367   8311     97.4    1.192  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  107    58.18   2933    3151   60304   8375     97.7    1.175  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  108    58.75   2961    3212   62311   8437     98.0    1.159  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  109    59.33   2989    3273   64390   8495     98.2    1.143  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  110    59.90   3017    3335   66545   8551     98.5    1.127  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  112    60.48   3045    3397   68779   8603     98.7    1.111  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    106    57.60   2975    3242   63709   8307     99.1    1.149  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    106    57.60   2824    2922   53051   8219     94.7    1.241  ! Near Maximum !

Cartridge          : .30-06 Spring.  (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .308, 165, Nosler BalTip 30165
Useable Case Capaci: 60.137 grain H2O = 3.905 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon H4350 *T

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   98    53.28   2692    2656   45711   7744     94.5    1.327
-09.0   99    53.87   2721    2714   47263   7830     95.0    1.308
-08.0  100    54.46   2751    2772   48864   7913     95.4    1.288
-07.0  102    55.06   2780    2831   50538   7994     95.8    1.270
-06.0  103    55.65   2809    2890   52264   8072     96.2    1.251
-05.0  104    56.24   2838    2951   54047   8148     96.6    1.233
-04.0  105    56.83   2867    3011   55886   8221     96.9    1.215  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0  106    57.42   2896    3073   57788   8291     97.3    1.197  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0  107    58.02   2925    3134   59759   8358     97.6    1.180  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0  108    58.61   2954    3197   61802   8422     97.9    1.163  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  109    59.20   2983    3260   63921   8483     98.2    1.146  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  110    59.79   3012    3323   66120   8540     98.5    1.130  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  111    60.38   3040    3387   68401   8594     98.7    1.114  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  112    60.98   3069    3451   70770   8645     98.9    1.098  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  114    61.57   3098    3516   73229   8693     99.1    1.083  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  115    62.16   3127    3582   75784   8737     99.3    1.068  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    109    59.20   3051    3411   69768   8436     99.5    1.106  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    109    59.20   2903    3088   58122   8429     95.9    1.193  ! Near Maximum !

It'll get you an extra 80 (eighty) fps. Can't see that you're gaining much.

 

[Aussie Wanderer]

Thank you everyone for your replies and Dr Mike for the QL data. I kind of feel late to the party with this century plus year old cartridge. Modern rifles, powders and bullets certainly add some spice to the old girl.

Guy I did watch that Ultimate Reloader episode, I enjoyed it a lot. Gavin is a clever dude and that was one great year for you, congrats on the many successful hunts. Great pics too.

I have just about finished reading W.D.M Bell’s The Wanderings of an Elephant Hunter. With what he accomplished with a 7x57 and getting close to game makes you appreciate sometimes just how much hype there is around today’s cartridges.

 

[DrMike]

Hi Guys,

Just a quick one. I have just recently purchased my first 30-06 and took it to the range today. I was just breaking it in and it is showing enormous promise. I loaded 55 grains of H4350 behind some left over Hornady 178 ELDM's. 9 shots chronographed at an average of 2,722fps with an sd of 6.3fps. Accuracy was really nice. Barrel length is 26 inches. I was wondering how much harder I can lean on this load.
...

Thanks for any help.

Cartridge          : .30-06 Spring.  (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .308, 178, Hornady ELD-M 30713
Useable Case Capaci: 57.967 grain H2O = 3.764 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon H4350 *T

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   98    51.12   2594    2659   46044   7528     95.3    1.370
-09.0   99    51.69   2621    2716   47597   7609     95.7    1.350
-08.0  100    52.26   2649    2773   49205   7687     96.1    1.331
-07.0  101    52.82   2677    2831   50865   7763     96.5    1.311
-06.0  102    53.39   2704    2890   52578   7836     96.9    1.292
-05.0  103    53.96   2732    2949   54346   7906     97.2    1.274
-04.0  104    54.53   2759    3009   56173   7974     97.5    1.256  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0  105    55.10   2787    3070   58066   8039     97.8    1.238  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0  106    55.66   2814    3130   60027   8101     98.1    1.220  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0  108    56.23   2842    3192   62059   8160     98.4    1.203  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  109    56.80   2869    3254   64165   8216     98.6    1.186  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  110    57.37   2896    3316   66350   8269     98.8    1.169  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  111    57.94   2924    3379   68615   8318     99.1    1.153  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  112    58.50   2951    3442   70966   8365     99.2    1.137  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  113    59.07   2978    3506   73405   8408     99.4    1.121  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  114    59.64   3005    3570   75939   8447     99.6    1.105  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    109    56.80   2932    3398   70001   8144     99.8    1.145  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    109    56.80   2795    3088   58380   8190     96.5    1.233  ! Near Maximum !

You have a bit of room that'll give you a few fps.

 

[DrMike]

As for other powders:

Cartridge          : .30-06 Spring.  (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .308, 165, Nosler BalTip 30165
Useable Case Capaci: 60.137 grain H2O = 3.905 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 65000 psi, or 448 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

2 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
ReloadSwiss RS 60 *T               104.3     60.6     3.93    3138   100.0    65000    8919   1.112  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70 *C               106.8     63.1     4.09    3123    99.9    65000    9333   1.114  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 *T              103.4     60.1     3.90    3118   100.0    65000    8875   1.118  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17                           103.4     60.1     3.90    3118   100.0    65000    8875   1.118  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 *C *T           108.6     58.6     3.80    3103   100.0    65000    8864   1.116  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RL16 TZ *C *T               108.6     58.6     3.80    3103   100.0    65000    8864   1.116  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62                  107.1     62.2     4.03    3087    99.9    65000    8946   1.135  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518                109.0     62.4     4.04    3078    99.3    65000    9132   1.128  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511                104.8     61.9     4.01    3078    99.5    65000    9086   1.128  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                     108.2     62.0     4.01    3076    99.4    65000    9072   1.129  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                       102.3     60.0     3.88    3069    99.0    65000    9058   1.132  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                     102.3     60.0     3.88    3069    99.0    65000    9058   1.132  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365                       110.0     60.6     3.93    3065   100.0    62815    8428   1.144  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 *C*T               104.7     59.3     3.84    3060    99.9    65000    8857   1.141  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP *C                       107.9     59.1     3.83    3060   100.0    65000    8732   1.135  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                      107.1     59.4     3.85    3057   100.0    65000    8688   1.149  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon LVR                        105.1     58.2     3.77    3052    99.8    65000    8701   1.133  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 *C                       106.7     61.1     3.96    3035    97.3    65000    8958   1.129  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                        110.0     61.0     3.95    3030    97.2    64563    8946   1.132  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 *C                 104.5     59.1     3.83    3010    99.9    65000    8240   1.140  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old                      100.0     56.0     3.63    3008   100.0    65000    8105   1.157  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3                         100.0     56.0     3.63    3008   100.0    65000    8105   1.157  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                        99.3     56.2     3.64    3008    99.8    65000    8412   1.150  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                        110.0     60.6     3.93    3007    96.8    61513    9027   1.149  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World SW4350              107.0     58.7     3.80    3005    99.0    65000    8586   1.152  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070                         107.0     58.7     3.80    3005    99.0    65000    8586   1.152  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903                      102.3     56.1     3.63    3001   100.0    65000    8027   1.158  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                110.0     59.0     3.82    3001   100.0    63422    7982   1.146  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355                       102.3     55.5     3.59    2995   100.0    65000    8050   1.154  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780             110.0     64.3     4.17    2990    97.1    64059    8655   1.140  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 *C              110.0     61.0     3.95    2987    96.7    59456    9055   1.170  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065                         105.6     57.3     3.71    2982    99.5    65000    8297   1.154  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Long Rifle          105.6     57.3     3.71    2982    99.5    65000    8297   1.154  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907                      104.1     56.7     3.67    2975    98.4    65000    8398   1.150  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7                         104.1     56.7     3.67    2975    98.4    65000    8398   1.150  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                       100.8     56.7     3.67    2975    98.3    65000    8391   1.150  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2520                       92.8     54.2     3.51    2972   100.0    65000    7599   1.163  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Match Rifle          94.9     54.2     3.51    2972   100.0    65000    7599   1.163  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.6                        94.9     54.2     3.51    2972   100.0    65000    7599   1.163  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                      110.0     60.1     3.90    2972    95.9    63280    8612   1.149  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064                       99.9     54.2     3.51    2970   100.0    65000    7597   1.179  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                      110.0     60.5     3.92    2968    96.6    58007    8944   1.185  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                       110.0     62.6     4.06    2965    94.2    56722    9295   1.186  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                           110.0     58.4     3.78    2958    99.8    58742    8436   1.194  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361                       109.3     64.6     4.18    2954    95.2    65000    8429   1.149  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2495                       94.1     51.0     3.31    2944   100.0    65000    7315   1.185  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                       110.0     61.6     3.99    2943    97.5    58575    8679   1.196  ! Near Maximum !

 

[DrMike]

Cartridge          : .30-06 Spring.  (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .308, 165, Nosler BalTip 30165
Useable Case Capaci: 60.137 grain H2O = 3.905 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon H4831 SC *T

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0  101    56.88   2665    2603   43740   7936     89.2    1.344
-09.0  103    57.51   2698    2667   45382   8044     89.8    1.322
-08.0  104    58.14   2731    2733   47106   8150     90.5    1.300
-07.0  105    58.78   2765    2801   48903   8254     91.1    1.278
-06.0  106    59.41   2798    2869   50780   8354     91.7    1.257
-05.0  107    60.04   2832    2938   52739   8452     92.3    1.236
-04.0  108    60.67   2865    3008   54789   8548     92.9    1.216
-03.0  109    61.30   2899    3080   56935   8640     93.4    1.195  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0  111    61.94   2933    3152   59182   8728     94.0    1.175  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0  112    62.57   2967    3226   61535   8813     94.5    1.156  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  113    63.20   3002    3301   64005   8895     95.0    1.136  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  114    63.83   3036    3377   66594   8973     95.5    1.117  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  115    64.46   3070    3454   69313   9046     95.9    1.099  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  116    65.10   3105    3532   72170   9116     96.4    1.080  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  117    65.73   3140    3611   75175   9181     96.8    1.062  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  118    66.36   3174    3692   78340   9242     97.2    1.044  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    113    63.20   3088    3494   70400   8978     97.6    1.092  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    113    63.20   2904    3089   57985   8701     91.5    1.187  ! Near Maximum !

This would be a compacted load, for sure.

 

[michsteve]

If you want higher speeds the 30/06 shoots well with Staball 6.5 and Ramshot Hunter in heavier bullet weights.

 

[Hunter26]

Great cartridge and tons of suitable powders. You already are using one of the best for the grand old warhorse. My dad loved IMR4350 with 150gr Ballistic Tips. Ive been partial to H4350 and 150gr Accubonds, Partitions or Interbonds and my buddy likes Staball 6.5 with 150gr Interbonds. Between the three of us, a pile of deer and hogs have fallen to those loads. Played around with 165gr Accubonds too using IMR/H4350. All good results!

 

[Aussie Wanderer]

Cartridge          : .30-06 Spring.  (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .308, 165, Nosler BalTip 30165
Useable Case Capaci: 60.137 grain H2O = 3.905 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon H4350 *T

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   96    51.84   2621    2518   42153   7526     93.3    1.377
-09.0   97    52.42   2650    2573   43539   7615     93.8    1.356
-08.0   98    52.99   2678    2628   44975   7701     94.3    1.337
-07.0   99    53.57   2707    2684   46454   7786     94.7    1.318
-06.0  100    54.14   2735    2740   47996   7868     95.2    1.299
-05.0  101    54.72   2763    2797   49581   7948     95.6    1.280
-04.0  102    55.30   2791    2855   51231   8026     96.0    1.262  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0  103    55.87   2820    2913   52932   8101     96.3    1.244  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0  104    56.45   2848    2972   54686   8174     96.7    1.226  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0  105    57.02   2876    3031   56496   8244     97.1    1.209  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  106    57.60   2905    3091   58367   8311     97.4    1.192  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  107    58.18   2933    3151   60304   8375     97.7    1.175  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  108    58.75   2961    3212   62311   8437     98.0    1.159  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  109    59.33   2989    3273   64390   8495     98.2    1.143  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  110    59.90   3017    3335   66545   8551     98.5    1.127  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  112    60.48   3045    3397   68779   8603     98.7    1.111  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    106    57.60   2975    3242   63709   8307     99.1    1.149  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    106    57.60   2824    2922   53051   8219     94.7    1.241  ! Near Maximum !

Cartridge          : .30-06 Spring.  (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .308, 165, Nosler BalTip 30165
Useable Case Capaci: 60.137 grain H2O = 3.905 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon H4350 *T

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   98    53.28   2692    2656   45711   7744     94.5    1.327
-09.0   99    53.87   2721    2714   47263   7830     95.0    1.308
-08.0  100    54.46   2751    2772   48864   7913     95.4    1.288
-07.0  102    55.06   2780    2831   50538   7994     95.8    1.270
-06.0  103    55.65   2809    2890   52264   8072     96.2    1.251
-05.0  104    56.24   2838    2951   54047   8148     96.6    1.233
-04.0  105    56.83   2867    3011   55886   8221     96.9    1.215  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0  106    57.42   2896    3073   57788   8291     97.3    1.197  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0  107    58.02   2925    3134   59759   8358     97.6    1.180  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0  108    58.61   2954    3197   61802   8422     97.9    1.163  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  109    59.20   2983    3260   63921   8483     98.2    1.146  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  110    59.79   3012    3323   66120   8540     98.5    1.130  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  111    60.38   3040    3387   68401   8594     98.7    1.114  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  112    60.98   3069    3451   70770   8645     98.9    1.098  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  114    61.57   3098    3516   73229   8693     99.1    1.083  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  115    62.16   3127    3582   75784   8737     99.3    1.068  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    109    59.20   3051    3411   69768   8436     99.5    1.106  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    109    59.20   2903    3088   58122   8429     95.9    1.193  ! Near Maximum !

It'll get you an extra 80 (eighty) fps. Can't see that you're gaining much.

It will make no difference in the field at the distances I am shooting at. Thank you.

 

[wvbuckbuster]

All good powders listed. I have a load using Ramshot Big Game with a 165gr bullet that groups well in my Rem 700 30-06.

 

[RL338]

It’s hard to beat H4350 for the mid weights. I’ve found N555 works well for 180gr plus. At some point I like to try Superformace in my 30-06.

 

[longrangehunter]

I suppose if Alliant begins bringing back their powders RL19, and 22 had always worked really well in my various ‘06’s, but those were with 180, 200, and 220 grain bullets. But those rifles had shorter barrels than the 26” you’re currently using.

FWIW, I have seen RL23 show up, but at the prices they want is a tough pill to swallow.

I found a receipt the other day from Big Bear in Billings Montana that had six pounds of RL 22 on it for $17.95 a pound!!!

Yah, that’s what I thought too!

 

[Wolfshead]

I guess I’m a little different than most in that I shoot 150 grain Accubonds from my 30-06.
When I first bought it, I picked up a box each of Remington core-loks in 165 grain and 150 grain and my rifle (Remington 700) seemed to like the 150s better.
So when I started handloading I researched which bullets that fit what I thought would be best for me and I choose the 150 grain accubonds.
I’ve taken many whitetails with that load and rifle.
I also use IMR 4064, and I’m surprised that hasn’t been mentioned yet.

 

[salmonchaser]

I use 4064 with 150s in my 06, I’d have to go wake the dogs and look for that load book but I think 52.5 grains. Started shooting the ballistic tips out of it for longer shots on mule deer. That was about 40 years before range finders came out. The ballistic tips at just over 2950 flattened the curve so to speak when it was all guess work. I mentioned I keep my 06 ready in the safe. It’s loaded with 150s/4064.

 

[Wolfshead]

I use 4064 with 150s in my 06, I’d have to go wake the dogs and look for that load book but I think 52.5 grains. Started shooting the ballistic tips out of it for longer shots on mule deer. That was about 40 years before range finders came out. The ballistic tips at just over 2950 flattened the curve so to speak when it was all guess work. I mentioned I keep my 06 ready in the safe. It’s loaded with 150s/4064.

My load is 51.5 grains.
Not sure the speed, as I didn’t have a chrono at the time but it has given me 3/4” groups at 100 yards and I’ve taken a nice buck at 267 ranged with it.
Mine sits in the safe mostly now and to be honest I haven’t shot it in probably two or three years.
I just like carrying the smaller carbine sized rifles in the thick stuff better….