30-06 XL7 165gr HPBT

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No circuit rider? :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

You know you ain't no good boy!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

 

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Jerry sent me a picture from the deer camp in the swamps. The first picture is where the water was and you see where the four wheeler is parked and the second picture is where it is this evening. They couldn't hunt so they got together and decided to have a cook out and eat. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Don't you just love it!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

 

[SJB358]

That's great stuff Kraky, thanks for posting.

 

[kraky]

His work has been there a while. I find him very credible and meticulous. My only wish is he wasn't using lapua brass as thats pretty roomy compared to what most of us use.

 

[SJB358]

His work has been there a while. I find him very credible and meticulous. My only wish is he wasn't using lapua brass as thats pretty roomy compared to what most of us use.

That's good stuff still. I will own a 30-06 someday.. It is the one cartridge I feel every American should have somewhere in their home. As I get older (not as old as Mike though :lol: ) I see alot of merits to the good old 30-06.

 

[FOTIS]

I have owned 12 of them. I can not seem to be able to keep them though.

 

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As I get older (not as old as Mike though :lol: ) I see alot of merits to the good old 30-06.

YOU JUST MADE BE FEEL OLD :mrgreen: :mrgreen: There are a lot of merits to the 30-06 and no cartridge possesses all to the qualities and abilities of a true versatile and utility cartridge as the 06.

I truly believe from my experiences that the 30-06 with its wide range of power, sufficiently flat trajectory, unquestioned accuracy, reasonable recoil and unusually broad variety of bullet choices, is the world's most versatile center-fire cartridge ever developed. With all the new powders, bullets and especially new light match grade rifles of today, I find it very questionable as to whether we can name any standard caliber or cartridge which is more versatile. We would be hard pressed to find a better cartridge when all things are considered, to meet the requirements of the majority of American riflemen and hunters.

 

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I have owned 12 of them. I can not seem to be able to keep them though.

You know the only reason you can not seem to be able to keep them!!! :mrgreen: I only know one man who would buy and trade as much as you, looking for the next best thing, but there really ain't no next best thing (pardon the poor English, used for emphasis) :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

 

[Guy Miner]

The .30-06 is a terrific cartridge. Some people get bored with it, and move on to something else for benefits either real or perceived.

I'm convinced that it's all the rifle most hunters would ever need for North America.

The more I learn about African hunting, I strongly suspect that it would do just fine there, for all but dangerous game.

A quality, .30 cal 165 or 180 gr bullet in the 2700 - 2900 fps range is a very deadly bullet indeed. Accuracy potential is excellent and most don't find the recoil objectionable. For perhaps a little less recoil, and maybe a little more accuracy, consider the '06 short, aka the .308 Win.

These mid-power .30 cals are both excellent cartridges. I could easily hunt the rest of my life with a quality rifle chambered for either.

'Cept I loves my .25-06! :grin:

Regards, Guy

 

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Yes, and one of my favorite loads in a 30-06 is 56grs IMR4350 in front of an 180gr Speer RN Hot Core with a BC of .304 2.7" high at 100yds, zero is 225yds and -7" at 300yds, on top of should at about 290yds and good to 350yds, it is an outstanding bullet on anything you want to shoot from deer to elk and a lot more in between and it will not let you down. I have used it for years and most aren't aware of it's outstanding terminal results on game. One of my favorite all around loads for thickets, black timber, general woods and spot and stalk in canyons on black bear (never have failed to be 300yds or closer when stalking black bear) and this bullet will lay them down and exits on most game. It is perfect for the 30-06 velocities and it is moving 2802fps at muzzle. :mrgreen:

 

[kraky]

3006 is boring!
Like being a scratch golfer is boring!
Like having a 225 avg in bowling is boring!

 

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3006 is boring!
Like being a scratch golfer is boring!
Like having a 225 avg in bowling is boring!

No the only thing boring about the 30/06 are those who are bored with the 30/06. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: I have used the 06 for years and taken so much game with them and it was my main cartridge in a two year culling process on hogs, deer and coyote for my state. When hunting I have been able to use so many different bullet weights and loads, match my 06 to all sorts of circumstances and game and there is nothing boring about that, except those who think it is boring. :mrgreen:

 

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Yesterday I took my Marlin XL7 to the gunsmith and left it there for strain test, will know in about a week or so concerning the first load on this thread and it's pressures.

 

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Received a text today from the gunsmith doing the strain gauge test on my 165gr load with W760. Now my 165gr load in my 06 using W760 was on the hot side, but not as hot as even I assumed it was. Most ammo for the 30/06 is loaded from 58,000 to 60,000.

Pressure for a modern cartridge like the .270Win is 65,000

Here are the three rounds he tested from my loads of W760 that reached over 3,000 plus fps

1. 63,977
2. 63,423
3. 63,855
Average = 63,751

Two steps I am taking to lower pressure with this load –

1. First, was considering using standard rifle primer instead of Magnum primer, but W760 with compressed or close to compressed loads is generally more accurate with Magnum primers so I will reduce load charge.

2. Reducing load charge by 2 grains.

I will bring this load to somewhere in the low to mid 2900fps range. My 30-06 was and could handle the load I developed and my brass did not lie to me. I will not push my rifle because there is no need to do so. If I want 3,000fps plus out of a 165gr bullet I could use the 300WSM and more preferably the 300Win mag since I like the 300Win mag better than the 300WSM.

I found it interesting that I was able to get 3,000 plus feet per second without extreme pressures. Of course this is with my particular rifle and every rifle will act a little different to loads that is why I work up my loads in steps for each of my rifles and cartridges.

 

[kraky]

That's amazing out of a 22" barrel. If your gun is like my 270 marlin it probably has minimal freebore too.
Didn't even use one of the newfangled powders either. My hats off to your knowledge and ability!

 

[SJB358]

Very nice. I wouldn't be a bit scared of 63K. If it shoots, it shoots.

 

[Guy Miner]

Very nice. I wouldn't be a bit scared of 63K. If it shoots, it shoots.

Agree.

 

[CatskillCrawler]

That is surprising to get that velocity out of a 22" tube and still stay within parameters. Just emphasizes the reason why it's so important to work up slowly as every rifle is like a snowflake. I could craft the same load for my -06 and lock my bolt solid.

I agree, its hot but if you feel good about it and it shoots good, 3k with a 165gr is an awesome load.

 

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thnaks guys and yes it would be an awesome load for a 30/06. I am going to shoot it again and then back down one tenth of a grain looking for the most accurate load not going past 1/2 grain down from this load. If any of them are more accurate I will go with them and this should keep keep me at 3000fps or a little over. This has been quite and eye opener with this rifle. Really something that an entry level 06 is giving me these velocities and even though hot not extreme. Yes, I would have to say after this rifle that each rifle is like a snow flake, they sure are all different.