300 WSM Synthetic Recommendations

[HOGWILD338-378]

I have purchased very few used rifle as well as I do not like other peoples problems! :grin:
Also understand the high prices but this rifle is too high for it's condition as they want new money for a scuffed up rifle?? :roll:

 

[taylorce1]

I have purchased very few used rifle as well as I do not like other peoples problems! :grin:
Also understand the high prices but this rifle is too high for it's condition as they want new money for a scuffed up rifle?? :roll:

I see a scuffed up scope but the rifle doesn't look to be too beat up from what I can see. It's a Leupold scope and ring marks don't bother me much as they don't affect the way that a rifle shoots or how a scope holds zero. Honest hunting wear also doesn't mean that there are any problems with the rifle.

I've only ever purchased four brand new rifles, out of over 25 rifles currently owned, I'm a used guy. Like I said rings and base would probably be replaced, and the scope either sold or sent back to Leupold for a tune up. A scope in that condition is still worth at least $125, as I just sold a gloss vari-x II 3-9X40 with worse ring marks for that in less than 15 min on the classifieds. You could probably peddle the stock and scope base combined for another $60-80 minimum. So like I said if you can get it for $700 you're looking around $500 for the barreled action, which isn't out of line for a Classic action to build a custom on IMO.

The only reason I know this is it took me about 6-8 months to finally find the action for a price I was willing to pay when I built my .338-06 on a stainless M70 Classic action.

 

[FOTIS]

savage tikka

 

[SJB358]

I have purchased very few used rifle as well as I do not like other peoples problems! :grin:
Also understand the high prices but this rifle is too high for it's condition as they want new money for a scuffed up rifle?? :roll:

I see a scuffed up scope but the rifle doesn't look to be too beat up from what I can see. It's a Leupold scope and ring marks don't bother me much as they don't affect the way that a rifle shoots or how a scope holds zero. Honest hunting wear also doesn't mean that there are any problems with the rifle.

I've only ever purchased four brand new rifles, out of over 25 rifles currently owned, I'm a used guy. Like I said rings and base would probably be replaced, and the scope either sold or sent back to Leupold for a tune up. A scope in that condition is still worth at least $125, as I just sold a gloss vari-x II 3-9X40 with worse ring marks for that in less than 15 min on the classifieds. You could probably peddle the stock and scope base combined for another $60-80 minimum. So like I said if you can get it for $700 you're looking around $500 for the barreled action, which isn't out of line for a Classic action to build a custom on IMO.

The only reason I know this is it took me about 6-8 months to finally find the action for a price I was willing to pay when I built my .338-06 on a stainless M70 Classic action.

I am with you here. I would much rather have a Classic action than the FN. Plus, scuff's don't bother me much at all. This Cerrakote stuff makes stuff like scuff's easy fixings..

 

[Dr. Vette]

I'll admit it, I'm biased.

But if it were me I'd buy this one:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =369146864

and buy my favorite color stock from here:
http://www.redhawkrifles.com/products/s ... erbyvghowa

and go shooting.

Or, if you don't mind blued, this one:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =369094965

Honestly, the original ("S1") Vanguard is just as accurate. The finish, trigger and stock are the only changes. I own 3 original Vanguards and they all shoot under 1 MOA with factory ammo.

 

[HOGWILD338-378]

Taylor I could care less which rifle he buys as I was just crying about the rings in the auction you posted! I am a Weatherby shooter anyway and would buy an Accumark or a Vanguard Back country as CRF is not a must for me? The original poster was what I was speaking about as far as scuff marks on the stock as they look deep but for new money I would not purchase with deep gouge issues if that is what they are but that is what the OP was wanting to buy! Not the rifle u linked which I talked about the rings! I have no problem with the rifle you posted but I am not the person buying :grin: I just cringe when I see that type of ring and normally they have a TASCO in them on a nice rifle :roll: I was under the impression the new Winchesters were being assembled in Portugal which i find hard to believe but something I heard in passing in a gun shop! I will eventually get another Winchester but it will probably be a older Model 70 in a big bore! But could be a brand spanking new one? Sorry for mixing everyone up as that was not my intention :mrgreen:

 

[SJB358]

No worries Terry. The new Model 70's are made in the USA right down in South Carolina.

 

[HOGWILD338-378]

I thought they were still made in USA Scotty but not sure as I have been looking at all the new Winchesters on the racks as well and actually surprised I,do not own a new one as I like the looks but getting anything in a short mag I would probably think twice about just because of reloading component prices, boy they are high !! Bob I hope ya find the rifle you are looking for and that stock might only need a black Sharpie to get it back to new looking if it is just rack marks ? :mrgreen:

 

[taylorce1]

There was rumor that the new Winchesters were going to be assembled in Portugal. It was all over other forums about six months ago. From what I understood the parts would be made in SC shipped to Portugal for assembly and then shipped back. I really don't understand the economics in that move but I'm sure there was some kind of incentive to doing that.

My only real suggestion is to go and fondle a EW because that is what the OP said he wanted. I know if I had I probably wouldn't have bought one. The stock just flat out sucks in my opinion. The only reason I posted that link to the one on GB was because it is stainless like the EW and can be easily put into another stock better than the B&C for probably a little less money.

As to the rings on that rifle, I figured the pawn shop selling the rifle probably slapped a scope on it just to help it sell.

 

[wildgene]

...maybe you should look @ this one...

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =368855221

 

[bob_dobalina]

Wow I haven't checked back in awhile - thanks for all the great recommendations.

I did handle an extreme weather back when they first came out; I liked it from what I remember - the stock did seem like it would be slick when wet, and I didn't handle it side by side with anything else.

I've never been interested in Browning, or really Savage for that matter. Can't say why.

I didn't know the M48 was lighter than the Tikka. Maybe the Tikka is not too light. One thing I didn't like about them is they seem to have a small "bullet port" due to the metal over the top (if that makes any sense). And I've never owned a gun with a clip before. The Tikka seems like it would be great in a 30-06.

How do these all compare for bullet seating depth? I have read alot of people say that you're limited to 180grain in the 300 WSM due to chamber length, but I know a Winchester 300 WSM that can seat 200 grains really long. I will definitely be reloading, and probably shooting 180 grain Accubonds and Partitions.

Are 300 WSM reloading supplies any harder to get than anything else these days?

Thanks for again all the info.

 

[DrMike]

Brass for the 300WSM may be easier to find than many other cartridges. I run 200 grain bullets in my Featherweight 300WSM without any difficulties. I've never been particular dissuaded by design from shooting the Tikkas--all I've shot performed quite well.

 

[SJB358]

Brass for the 300WSM may be easier to find than many other cartridges. I run 200 grain bullets in my Featherweight 300WSM without any difficulties. I've never been particular dissuaded by design from shooting the Tikkas--all I've shot performed quite well.

I echo everything Mike just stated. Very easy to get 2900 outta a 200 in the 300WSM in a Featherweight, at least mine. I wouldn't want a magazine limited to 2.8 at all for the 300WSM. The Winchester's allow up to 3.1" in their rifles.

 

[taylorce1]

Here You Go!

http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthread ... Wea#UNREAD

Second is a Winchester Extreme Weather in 300WSM. The rifle has had 20 rounds down the tube and seems to shoot fine. I have not started much load development so I cannot speak to it's potential but I would say it shouldn't be disappointing. The factory B&C stock seemed to slippery to me under recoil so I sprayed it forest green with a silica in it to make it more grippy. It comes with Talley low rings but again, not the glass. There are a couple handling marks on the stock that I have pictured below. Asking 850.00 for the rifle/rings and 925.00 for everything.
90x WW brass, new
1 box -6 of Win 'super X' 150gr power point.





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[SJB358]

Here You Go!

http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthread ... Wea#UNREAD

Second is a Winchester Extreme Weather in 300WSM. The rifle has had 20 rounds down the tube and seems to shoot fine. I have not started much load development so I cannot speak to it's potential but I would say it shouldn't be disappointing. The factory B&C stock seemed to slippery to me under recoil so I sprayed it forest green with a silica in it to make it more grippy. It comes with Talley low rings but again, not the glass. There are a couple handling marks on the stock that I have pictured below. Asking 850.00 for the rifle/rings and 925.00 for everything.
90x WW brass, new
1 box -6 of Win 'super X' 150gr power point.

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I just looked at this, this morning. Seems like a decent deal. I like the idea of painting some grip on the stock.

 

[bob_dobalina]

That does look nice thanks. What's with "handling marks" and this gun? That's 2 now - I'm sure it's fine, you'd like to see a paint job like that in person, but the pictures look really good. I may email for more info. While I'd still love one of these guns, I have been seriously considering vanguard s2 (found one in 300 wsm, not stainless though) and the tikkas. Tikkas seem like you could load them long if it weren't for the factory magazine. Anyone know what the magazine length would be on the vanguard?

 

[truck driver]

Contact Wby custom shop or customer info and they can tell you. Or Nosler since they use the Howa action same as Wby.

 

[tddeangelo]

I have a 300WSM EW. I find the stock fits me pretty well, so I'm a fan, but that's a personal preference. I'm 6'1-6'2, and have big paws, so I guess that helps some. I find the stock fits me pretty well.

I've hunted in an actual hurricane (Hurricane Sandy, I was in North Carolina at the time, so it wasn't a "direct" hit, but it was pretty rough) and got the thing soaked, and I had ZERO issues with it being slick to the touch. I can see how you'd think it would be when first handling one, but I've gotten mine soaked while hunting a few times with no problems whatsoever. While I think the paint job idea from the 24HCF ad is cool, I don't think it's terribly necessary, either, imho.

My EW is a really good rifle. I have a little trouble shooting tiny groups with it on the bench, mostly because it's so dang light that I need to be on my game more than with my heftier rifles. For hunting, it's a light, well-balanced, well-built gun. I like my pre64 and New Haven M70's as much as anyone else, but I have 2 FN-made rifles now, and they are very well built. I wish they'd have kept the old trigger system and not dropped the MOA trigger on it (it's not bad, but it's not the old trigger that was SUPERB), but I can live with the MOA system. It actually gives a pretty decent feel to the trigger, but it's not the essence of simplicity that the old trigger was.

And just a pet peeve, I wish they'd have retained a grooved face on the trigger rather than making it smooth.

As far as lock up and feel of the action, my EW felt a little gritty at first, but smoothed out pretty fast. It's one of my slickest, fastest M70's of the bunch (I own 6, two pre64's, one XTR, a Classic, and 2 FN's). The only one better right out of the gate has been my FN-made SuperGrade.

The pre64's are smooth, but not as quick to cycle. Kinda hard to explain.

Anyway, if you feel the EW stock fits you well, they are a GREAT rifle platform and seem to provide what you're looking for? I'd suggest you give them another look-see. You could also look at the Stainless Alaskan's in 300WM. Not a WSM, but I handled one in Cabela's and it was a jaw-dropper. Great feel to the bolt, well-built....was a 338WM but I know they have them in 300WM, too. Not many, but they have them.

 

[Dr. Vette]

While I'd still love one of these guns, I have been seriously considering vanguard s2 (found one in 300 wsm, not stainless though)

You didn't like the link to the one I gave you earlier for the stainless S1?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =369146864

The only difference to an S2 is the stock and the trigger, both easily fixable. The S2 is absolutely no more accurate than an S1, despite the new sub-moa claim. This I confirmed in discussion with Dan Weatherby at the SHOT Show a couple of years ago.

My suggestions remain the same:
viewtopic.php?p=256347#p256347

 

[bob_dobalina]

Dr. Vette I appreciate the suggestions! I'm a weatherby guy too. The trigger on the S2 is pretty nice though! And, despite all of the online suggestions I would always prefer to buy local.