35 Whelen Elk Loads

[wayno945]

Silly question for the Whelen crew. Have you guys ever tried H414 behind the 225's?

I started and stopped at RL15. I do have some 8208 and W760 that I could try!

 

[PJGunner]

The way I heard it, was that if an elk even heard the name "Whelen" he'd quiver a mite, then fall dead, right there....

That's true isn't it? :grin:

Of course it's true. I've seen it. :lol:
Paul B.

 

[YoteSmoker]

Have any of you used the 250 sp-rp interlock on elk or bear? I suspect it would do the job well and hope to see how it works on a bear in a couple weeks.

 

[orchemo]

RL-15 with either 225 AB or 250 PT

Thanks

 

[SJB358]

Have any of you used the 250 sp-rp interlock on elk or bear? I suspect it would do the job well and hope to see how it works on a bear in a couple weeks.

I think this bullet was changed up some awhile back by Hornady. Someone here tested one of them. It wasn't the "tougher" bullet of the old Interlock fame. Still, it is a 250 grain bullet coming out of the Whelen, so even if it doesn't hold up perfectly, I am sure its going to go quite away before coming apart.

 

[DrMike]

I've used a 250 grain InterLock on bison. It was shot from a .358 Winchester; it worked.

 

[tjen]

The 250gr interlocks, Hot cores, and grandslams are all know performer in the whelen. Thats what they were designed for the whelen. And at 200 yards or less they will be great for trajectory too.

If thats all you can find I would use anyone of them. There tuff yet expand on deer as well as moose and did I say they are tuff.

 

[Wondermutt]

you will need a drop tube to settle the powder a bit better.

Hi Gerry or others. I never used a drop tube, so what is involved with this process?

On a side note, there is a box of 50 pretty 225G partitions sitting on the bench :grin:

Thanks

WM

 

[SJB358]

you will need a drop tube to settle the powder a bit better.

Hi Gerry or others. I never used a drop tube, so what is involved with this process?

On a side note, there is a box of 50 pretty 225G partitions sitting on the bench :grin:

Thanks

WM

This is all the drop tube I use. It is 4" and works so well, I use it for everything and think nothing about it. All I do is dump a little slower and it seems to settle in right nice. No shaking the case, or anything, pour and seat the bullet.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/554122 ... -drop-tube

Congrats on the 225 PT's. Loaded up with any decent Whelen powder, you'll be in great shape.

Cartridge : .35 Whelen
Bullet : .358, 225, Nosler PART SP 44800
Useable Case Capaci: 62.082 grain H2O = 4.031 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Winchester 760

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 88 53.26 2201 2421 30160 6361 83.1 1.495
-18.0 90 54.60 2260 2552 32328 6589 84.7 1.452
-16.0 92 55.93 2320 2688 34674 6811 86.1 1.410
-14.0 95 57.26 2379 2828 37206 7028 87.5 1.369
-12.0 97 58.59 2440 2973 39943 7238 88.9 1.325
-10.0 99 59.92 2500 3123 42909 7441 90.1 1.282
-08.0 101 61.25 2561 3277 46124 7634 91.4 1.241
-06.0 103 62.59 2623 3436 49618 7819 92.5 1.201
-04.0 106 63.92 2684 3599 53419 7992 93.6 1.163
-02.0 108 65.25 2746 3768 57564 8154 94.6 1.125 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 110 66.58 2808 3940 62096 8303 95.5 1.089 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 112 67.91 2871 4118 67062 8439 96.4 1.054 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 114 69.24 2934 4300 72515 8559 97.1 1.021 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 117 70.57 2997 4486 78522 8664 97.8 0.988 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 119 71.91 3060 4678 85163 8751 98.4 0.956 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 121 73.24 3123 4874 92527 8821 98.9 0.926 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 110 66.58 2961 4379 75849 8283 99.5 1.007 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 110 66.58 2610 3404 50215 7884 87.6 1.196


Cartridge : .35 Whelen
Bullet : .358, 225, Nosler PART SP 44800
Useable Case Capaci: 62.082 grain H2O = 4.031 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Hodgdon H4895

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 80 45.78 2215 2451 31664 6130 92.4 1.496
-18.0 82 46.93 2267 2567 33708 6304 93.4 1.456
-16.0 84 48.07 2318 2685 35880 6473 94.4 1.417
-14.0 86 49.22 2370 2805 38189 6635 95.2 1.377
-12.0 88 50.36 2421 2928 40642 6789 96.0 1.339
-10.0 90 51.51 2472 3053 43249 6937 96.8 1.301
-08.0 92 52.65 2523 3179 46022 7075 97.4 1.265
-06.0 94 53.80 2573 3308 48970 7206 98.0 1.230
-04.0 96 54.94 2624 3439 52108 7327 98.5 1.197
-02.0 98 56.09 2674 3572 55450 7438 98.9 1.165 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 100 57.23 2724 3706 59010 7540 99.3 1.133 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 102 58.37 2773 3842 62805 7631 99.6 1.103 ! Near Maximum !
+04.0 104 59.52 2822 3980 66857 7711 99.8 1.075 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 106 60.66 2871 4119 71184 7779 99.9 1.047 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 108 61.81 2920 4259 75812 7837 100.0 1.020 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 110 62.95 2968 4401 80767 7884 100.0 0.994 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 100 57.23 2828 3997 69991 7264 100.0 1.059 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 100 57.23 2575 3313 48343 7483 94.9 1.233

Cartridge : .35 Whelen
Bullet : .358, 225, Nosler PART SP 44800
Useable Case Capaci: 62.082 grain H2O = 4.031 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Hodgdon VARGET

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 86 47.83 2219 2461 32880 6020 91.0 1.460
-18.0 89 49.03 2272 2578 35075 6199 92.1 1.420
-16.0 91 50.22 2324 2698 37416 6372 93.1 1.381
-14.0 93 51.42 2376 2821 39915 6540 94.1 1.341
-12.0 95 52.62 2429 2947 42585 6701 94.9 1.303
-10.0 97 53.81 2481 3075 45441 6854 95.7 1.265
-08.0 99 55.01 2533 3205 48482 7001 96.5 1.229
-06.0 102 56.20 2585 3338 51714 7138 97.2 1.195
-04.0 104 57.40 2637 3474 55168 7268 97.8 1.162
-02.0 106 58.59 2689 3612 58869 7387 98.3 1.130 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 108 59.79 2740 3752 62838 7497 98.8 1.099 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 110 60.99 2792 3894 67099 7597 99.2 1.069 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 112 62.18 2843 4039 71680 7686 99.5 1.040 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 114 63.38 2895 4186 76613 7763 99.7 1.012 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 117 64.57 2946 4335 81932 7828 99.9 0.985 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 119 65.77 2997 4486 87679 7881 100.0 0.959 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 108 59.79 2847 4050 74008 7293 100.0 1.030 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 108 59.79 2593 3360 51937 7365 93.8 1.189


Cartridge : .35 Whelen
Bullet : .358, 225, Nosler PART SP 44800
Useable Case Capaci: 62.082 grain H2O = 4.031 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-15

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 85 48.40 2245 2518 32353 6334 91.1 1.475
-18.0 87 49.61 2299 2641 34555 6521 92.2 1.434
-16.0 89 50.82 2354 2768 36899 6701 93.2 1.395
-14.0 91 52.03 2408 2897 39403 6874 94.2 1.354
-12.0 93 53.24 2462 3029 42080 7039 95.1 1.313
-10.0 95 54.45 2516 3163 44942 7196 96.0 1.275
-08.0 97 55.66 2570 3301 48003 7344 96.7 1.238
-06.0 99 56.87 2624 3440 51280 7482 97.4 1.202
-04.0 101 58.08 2678 3583 54790 7610 98.0 1.167
-02.0 104 59.29 2731 3727 58554 7727 98.5 1.134 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 106 60.50 2785 3874 62592 7832 99.0 1.102 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 108 61.71 2838 4023 66931 7926 99.3 1.071 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 110 62.92 2891 4175 71599 8007 99.6 1.041 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 112 64.13 2943 4328 76628 8075 99.8 1.013 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 114 65.34 2996 4484 82053 8129 100.0 0.985 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 116 66.55 3048 4641 87918 8170 100.0 0.958 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 106 60.50 2899 4198 74897 7555 100.0 1.027 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 106 60.50 2625 3442 50735 7734 94.0 1.202

Cartridge : .35 Whelen
Bullet : .358, 225, Nosler PART SP 44800
Useable Case Capaci: 62.082 grain H2O = 4.031 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : IMR 4320

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 86 48.40 2228 2481 32293 6099 91.3 1.458
-18.0 88 49.61 2282 2601 34471 6280 92.5 1.418
-16.0 90 50.82 2335 2725 36799 6454 93.5 1.378
-14.0 92 52.03 2389 2851 39289 6621 94.5 1.338
-12.0 95 53.24 2443 2981 41955 6780 95.4 1.298
-10.0 97 54.45 2496 3113 44811 6930 96.2 1.261
-08.0 99 55.66 2550 3248 47874 7071 97.0 1.224
-06.0 101 56.87 2603 3386 51163 7202 97.6 1.189
-04.0 103 58.08 2657 3526 54696 7323 98.2 1.155
-02.0 105 59.29 2710 3669 58499 7432 98.7 1.122 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 107 60.50 2763 3814 62597 7529 99.2 1.090 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 110 61.71 2816 3961 67020 7614 99.5 1.060 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 112 62.92 2868 4111 71803 7686 99.7 1.030 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 114 64.13 2921 4263 76982 7744 99.9 1.002 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 116 65.34 2973 4417 82600 7788 100.0 0.974 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 118 66.55 3025 4572 88715 7819 100.0 0.947 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 107 60.50 2872 4121 74661 7250 100.0 1.020 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 107 60.50 2609 3400 51670 7445 94.3 1.183

Cartridge : .35 Whelen
Bullet : .358, 225, Nosler PART SP 44800
Useable Case Capaci: 62.082 grain H2O = 4.031 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : IMR 4064

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 87 47.20 2221 2464 33139 5981 91.6 1.463
-18.0 89 48.38 2273 2581 35355 6153 92.6 1.423
-16.0 92 49.56 2325 2702 37707 6319 93.6 1.383
-14.0 94 50.74 2378 2825 40218 6479 94.5 1.343
-12.0 96 51.92 2430 2950 42898 6631 95.4 1.304
-10.0 98 53.10 2482 3078 45760 6777 96.2 1.267
-08.0 100 54.28 2534 3208 48819 6913 96.9 1.231
-06.0 103 55.46 2586 3341 52089 7042 97.5 1.196
-04.0 105 56.64 2638 3476 55590 7160 98.1 1.163 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 107 57.82 2689 3613 59339 7270 98.6 1.130 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 109 59.00 2740 3752 63360 7369 99.0 1.099 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 111 60.18 2792 3893 67677 7457 99.4 1.069 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 114 61.36 2843 4037 72317 7534 99.6 1.040 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 116 62.54 2893 4182 77312 7599 99.8 1.012 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 118 63.72 2944 4329 82699 7651 100.0 0.985 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 120 64.90 2994 4478 88517 7692 100.0 0.959 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 109 59.00 2846 4045 74874 7120 100.0 1.030 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 109 59.00 2594 3361 52193 7286 94.3 1.192

 

[gerry]

Scotty covered it pretty good on using a drop tube, I actually just tapped the case on the bench as I poured it in but a drop tube is much easier. Actually I loaded the longer 225 gr AccuBond, the shorter Partition might not compress the powder too much at all. Your uncle will be pleased with how the 225 gr Partition performs on elk and deer, it is one of the best 35 cal bullets available.

 

[SJB358]

I am with Gerry, I run it in my 358 at 2450 and it is excellent. Opens quickly and penetrates FAR!

 

[gerry]

I have a few of those to try in my new Whelen but no time to get to the range, need to load some up and get out there soon

 

[nvbroncrider]

A drop tube is required. 64 grains in that case is FULL!