45-70 Nosler 300 gr PT

JD338

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Here is a recovered 300 gr PR from my Marlin 1895 45-70 Guide Gun.
I shot into 6 water jugs at 100 yds. The bullet went through all 6 and was recovered in some old rags I had behind the jugs and held in place by a 3/4" plywood panel. Recovered weight is 257.5 grs, 85.8% weight retention. The expanded diameter is .803" with a length of .659".
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I need to clock this load but I am guessing 2100 fps MV.

JD338
 
It's amazing how the forward lead core was wiped completely off the bullet. I would would have expected some of the lead core to remain ahead of the Partition.
 
Nice! Looks like perfect performance. That thing is one heck of a bullet...

For comparison, here's what's left of a 300 gr Remington fired from my .45/70 into water-filled milk jugs just last week:

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Impact velocity on this one was 1758 fps - I put the chronograph right in front of the milk jugs. It got kind of wet... :grin: Total weight of the recovered pieces is 55 grains. The jacket was recovered in the 5th jug, the lead fragments in the fourth.
 
Just an FYI

The Remington 300 gr JHP is averaging 2066 fps.

JD338
 
Nosler,

Any word yet on keeping the .458 cal 300 gr PP in production?

JD338
 
My buddy just bought an 1895 Guide Gun and has been using the 325 Leverevolutions, in his rifle they shoot pretty accurately. I have shot the rifle a few times, and man, it is something I would like to have in the safe. Seems like I could find something to do with it. I really like all of the examples of recovered 300gr Partitions I have seen on here. It looks like a fantastic bullet and would seem to be really at home with close quarters bears over bait in the Spring. Shots are usually pretty close, and it is nice to put bears down on the spot, makes it easier for caping and packing. Hopefully Nosler keeps the 300gr PT or maybe adds a 350gr PT for the 45-70/450 Marlin. I will get one eventually. I really like the feel of the rifles and they are pretty economical for how much power you can get out of them. Scotty
 
Beretzs - Marlin makes one heck of a rifle. I've had two of those .45/70's now, and they are really great rifles. It's hard for me to imagine something I'd feel better carrying in dense growth after a bear...

Hopefully Nosler will bring back their terrific 300 gr Partition, but there are other excellent bullets avail for the .45/70 Marlin. The 350 gr Swift A-Frame comes to mind... Sort of a heavy-duty, bonded Partition-type bullet.
 
Thanks Guy, I think the Marlins are pretty nice, just never owned one. I think it would be a great bear rifle and probably be pretty nice for deer in a treestand in thicker woods. Scotty
 
beretzs

I carried my 1895 Guide 45-70 this past deer season and it was an absolute joy to carry. No shooting but I know if I would have had an opportunity, the Nosler 300 gr PP would have done the job.

JD338
 
Man, you guys are not helping with my restraint in getting one. You can get a blued/walnut 1895 from Dicks for 550.00. Seems like a good deal. Trying to squirrel away enough to get a Super Blackhawk 44 Mag first. Scotty
 
Jim and Scotty,

Handy as the Guide Gun is, I cannot help but love the lines of the 1895 Cowboy. I realise that it will not be as handy in the bush, but it just looks cool.
 
DrMike":13wsv0ts said:
Jim and Scotty,

Handy as the Guide Gun is, I cannot help but love the lines of the 1895 Cowboy. I realise that it will not be as handy in the bush, but it just looks cool.

I know........

JD338
 
I have handled a few of those also. I kinda like the shorty a little more. I guess it would be a great off hand shooter though. Scotty
 
I have witnessed some of the Marlin lever guns chambered both in 45-70 and 450 that were capable of exceptional accuracy at 200 yards. I found them very impressive. I recently did break-in on one of the newer stainless models in 45-70 that shot very well indeed. I'm certain that this cartridge would be a hammer on big game in many of the areas I hunt.
 
beretzs":gg4gl8wa said:
I have handled a few of those also. I kinda like the shorty a little more. I guess it would be a great off hand shooter though. Scotty

Only one way to scratch the itch!
I have been a bolt gun shooter my whole like and never had an interest in owning a lever gun. That changed when I bought a 1895 Guide Gun in 45-70.
This rifle is fun to shoot, easy to carry, very accurate and packs a serious punch with the hotter loads.

JD338
 
I think I will try one out after I shoot that new 44 some. I would like to see how the 45-70 handles deer. I like the big Marlins, plus another case to reload is never a bad thing. Scotty
 
Like what JD said, "scratch the itch".

Load those Marlin 45/70s up with those 300 gr. Nosler Partition bullets and a stiff load of RL7 powder and you're good to go! You'll have it covered from deer thru moose and I've used that load on black-bears with great success.

All the best,
 
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