6.5 Creedmoor

[GSSP]

I load a buddies 260 Rem with the 140 MK and H414. Great accuracy. Similar to yours. He doesn't shoot enough to really tell if it's as temp sensitive as I've heard it might.

Alan

 

[Idahotrophyhunter]

What powder would be suggested for being able to push a 140 nosler Partition at least 2700 fps, with the smallest amount of powder used? Looking for a load with say 38-40 grains if possible.

 

[DrMike]

Here is some data to peruse.

Cartridge : 6.5 Creedmoor Hornady
Bullet : .264, 140, Nosler PART SP 16321
Useable Case Capaci: 47.824 grain H2O = 3.105 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.

Matching Maximum Pressure: 52666 psi, or 363 MPa

or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %

These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

14 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.

Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Norma MRP 101.7 46.8 3.03 2861 99.2 52667 10074 1.321 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 109.6 48.0 3.11 2859 100.0 52667 9768 1.314 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 103.2 46.5 3.01 2841 96.4 52667 10148 1.321 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum (Big Boy) 105.9 50.0 3.24 2834 97.2 52667 10066 1.314 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12 106.2 50.0 3.24 2833 97.3 52667 10043 1.314 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517 106.3 50.0 3.24 2833 97.2 52667 10056 1.314 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO 103.8 48.6 3.15 2833 94.9 52667 10188 1.326 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 103.5 46.1 2.99 2826 98.2 52667 9835 1.326 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 103.5 46.1 2.99 2826 98.2 52667 9835 1.326 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 103.5 46.1 2.99 2826 98.2 52667 9835 1.326 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR 106.2 46.3 3.00 2825 98.0 52667 9842 1.327 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 107.4 46.0 2.98 2818 96.7 52667 9802 1.316 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 101.6 46.0 2.98 2818 96.7 52667 9802 1.316 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213 102.3 45.6 2.96 2802 96.6 52667 9694 1.317 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214 106.5 48.7 3.16 2788 96.6 52667 9604 1.316 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2 110.0 48.5 3.14 2787 96.6 48365 10102 1.373
Rottweil R905 104.5 45.7 2.96 2785 96.3 52667 9491 1.331 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 97.3 42.6 2.76 2781 100.0 52667 8445 1.342 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 95.1 43.3 2.81 2775 99.6 52667 9072 1.337 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570 110.0 51.1 3.31 2775 90.2 47119 10685 1.383
Alliant Reloder-19 99.6 43.9 2.84 2775 98.0 52667 9293 1.331 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 99.0 43.4 2.81 2773 97.8 52667 9229 1.324 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 100.3 44.2 2.87 2768 97.9 52667 9227 1.332 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation 105.7 47.5 3.08 2762 94.2 52667 9473 1.324 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP 94.5 41.2 2.67 2756 100.0 52667 8686 1.346 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 94.6 41.2 2.67 2756 100.0 52667 8684 1.346 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 98.4 41.5 2.69 2755 100.0 52667 8685 1.365 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 91.7 41.3 2.68 2755 100.0 52667 8791 1.352 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 94.3 42.9 2.78 2748 97.7 52667 9024 1.335 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4 97.4 42.9 2.78 2748 97.7 52667 9024 1.335 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 97.4 42.9 2.78 2748 97.7 52667 9024 1.335 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 105.0 45.0 2.91 2744 95.9 52667 9102 1.330 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC 100.9 45.0 2.91 2744 95.9 52667 9102 1.330 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385 99.9 44.5 2.89 2743 98.7 52667 8921 1.354 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 99.3 41.9 2.72 2740 100.0 52667 8506 1.356 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100 109.6 45.7 2.96 2740 99.6 52667 8763 1.366 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780 98.6 45.8 2.97 2732 97.8 52667 8860 1.336 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 95.0 42.5 2.76 2729 98.9 52667 8740 1.349 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165 105.4 45.9 2.98 2729 98.4 52667 8714 1.342 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000 110.0 48.0 3.11 2728 95.8 49334 9421 1.356
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 100.6 41.5 2.69 2721 100.0 52667 7994 1.345 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904 98.0 42.6 2.76 2714 96.7 52667 8744 1.341 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070 93.9 41.0 2.65 2711 99.2 52667 8566 1.362 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 104.7 44.3 2.87 2700 96.6 52667 8597 1.343 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065 92.6 39.9 2.59 2688 99.7 52667 8249 1.364 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907 91.5 39.6 2.57 2686 98.7 52667 8381 1.358 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361 97.1 45.6 2.96 2685 95.8 52667 8577 1.353 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Retumbo 110.0 48.8 3.16 2677 97.4 42566 9914 1.447
Accurate 4064 90.6 37.3 2.42 2661 100.0 52667 7472 1.400 ! Near Maximum !

 

[frankm]

Jockperkins, awesome shooting. Great rifle. Tony does work for me and I really like him. Thinking about a 6.5x47 or Creedmoor but not sure which way to go. Are you in Idaho? I'm in Boise.

 

[jockperkins]

frankm,

Tony is the bomb! He can be a little slow (he will hit me for saying this) but he is a stickler for the little things and he builds very accurate rifles. He has built several rifles for me and they are both tack drivers. Right now I have him building my son a 6.5 Creedmoor hunting rifle that I am giving him once he completes his Eagle Scout project. Here are some of the components:

Hitech stock
lilja 1:8 twist barrel (fluted)
blueprinted model 7 action
Holland Recoil lug

I hope it turns out as well as I think it can. If not I will know it has nothing to do with Tony. I thought about the 6.5 lapua because I like the brass so much but I have to tell you that I have 250 pieces of Hornady brass and I am very pleased with its consistency etc. No loose primer pockets with warmer loads etc as well.

I am out of Caldwell.

 

[frankm]

Jockperkins,
The build sounds perfect for your sons first rifle. I have a 7-08 Rem in 700 action in a Hi Tech stock that was originally mine and it ended up being given to my daughter for her first centerfire.

I am a member at Parma R&G and get over there and shoot steel, punch paper, etc. ocasionally so I'll "look for you" sometime if you make it that way. I've met one guy there, maybe it was you, that was working with a Creedmoor !

 

[jockperkins]

Frankm,

I have never been out that way but I will have to give it a shot. I love the 708 cartridge. I had one in a Rem titanium but could never get it to shoot. I think the barrel was bad. I kick myself for not having Tony throw a barrel on it. It could have been a darn nice rifle.

Let me know the next time you go out and maybe we could meet up. Nice to know there are local folks on the board...

How do you like the Hitech stock?

Jock

 

[SJB358]

That little 6.5 is pretty impressive with a 140 Mike. 2800 with a bunch of powders. Might not have a ton of energy but man, those 140's should dig deep and really be slick. Hopefully the 6.5CM sticks around. I kinda like the looks of it more than the 260 Rem.

 

[frankm]

Jock,

H Tech stocks are hard to beat for a light, handy carry rifle. TYhey're a little "flexy" but as long as the barrel is floated with adequate clearance, which Tony will do, they're great. I have the short action that my daughter claims now and I also have one on my hunting rifle in 300WM. It does have some pretty good recoil due to the light weight but it's a shooter. 3/4" or better consistently with 165, 180 or 200 grain bullets and R22.

FM

 

[DrMike]

Bear in mind that the figures generated on that QL projection are only at 85% of pressure maximum. Thus, they will generate velocities that are quite a bit higher when properly loaded.

 

[SJB358]

Bear in mind that the figures generated on that QL projection are only at 85% of pressure maximum. Thus, they will generate velocities that are quite a bit higher when properly loaded.

Man, that makes them look even better Mike. That is alot of bullet with a relatively small case. Now I kinda see why the 6.5CM and Lapua have such a following.. That is really getting it out there with a 140...

 

[DrMike]

The Creedmoor is an efficient and well-mannered cartridge that will perform quite well for the one who treats her with respect.

 

[SJB358]

The Creedmoor is an efficient and well-mannered cartridge that will perform quite well for the one who treats her with respect.

It really sounds like it Mike. How are you making out with yours?

 

[DrMike]

I need time to work on it again. I'm getting swamped with a number of rifles to work up right now. And it is bear season!

 

[SJB358]

I need time to work on it again. I'm getting swamped with a number of rifles to work up right now. And it is bear season!

Good enough excuse for me Mike......

You going to try the little 307 out on some bears this year?

 

[DrMike]

The .307 will be going afield with me shortly. There are reports of some of the big boars roaming around looking for foodstuff. Skunk cabbage and willow buds should be an attractant at the moment. The snow has to clear before there is any possibility of greenery poking through the brown. I do have the itch, that's for certain.

 

[SJB358]

Very cool Mike! I am pulling for you buddy!