6.5 GWI ..... ???????

[Mortis]

My wife's Husqvarna 6.5 X 55 Swedish Mauser is down at Trammel's Gunsmithing in Texas for a new barrel.

My best Pard is a good friend of Jon Trammel and is handling the rework for me.

He called me last night concerning using a Brux Barrel as recommended by Mr. Trammel. The he asked me about a change in cartridge.

Seems the 6.5 GWI is becoming a hot item in Benchrest. And suggests I try it in the Swede.

It apprears to be an Ackley style blow out of the standard case with some changes.

I can't find anything about it online.....so....::::::

Anyone out there familiar with the cartridge??

Know where I can find the specs??

Load information and performance data??


Thanks...

 

[JLC0311]

From what I've found one of the gunsmiths developed it at Kelbly, http://www.kelbly.com The guy's name is George Wilson hence the 6.5x55 George Wilson Improved. Can't find any data so my only concern would be whether that Husky is a small ring action or a large ring. If there is an increase in chamber pressure which I'm presuming since it is a performance benchrest round I'd stay away if your rifle is a small ring. It looks like you'd have to call Kelbly's to get data on it.

Hope this helps, Jimmy

 

[Mortis]

From what I've foundone of the gunsmiths developed it Kelbly, http://www.kelbly.com The guy's name is George Wilson hence the 6.5x55 George Wilson Improved. Can't find any data so my only concern would be whether that Husky is a small ring action or a large ring. If there is an increase in chamber pressure which I'm presuming since it is a performance benchrest round I'd stay away if your rifle is a small ring. It looks like you'd have to call Kelbly's to get data on it.

Hope this helps, Jimmy

It does help a bit.....

Jon Trammel builds long range precison rifles...... you can find him on YouTube hitting 3x3 swingers at 500 yards. And I've shot several of his builds.

So I have faith in his judgement.....

BUT.... this is also why I've asked the questions.....

I have Kelbly's website socked away.....just hopeing someone outside his shop knew anything.

Thanks.......

 

[nvbroncrider]

Pictures?

 

[JLC0311]

Mort, still can't find any info other than that. What have you heard about the GWI? nothing like a new 6.5mm to get your attention.

Jimmy

 

[SJB358]

Is it a 6.5 Swede AI'ed with a few changes? Meaning, can you use Swede brass in the rifle? Sounds pretty cool, just never heard of it.

 

[nvbroncrider]

Is it a 6.5 Swede AI'ed with a few changes? Meaning, can you use Swede brass in the rifle? Sounds pretty cool, just never heard of it.

Sounds way sweet but it would be a shame to punch mine out.

 

[SJB358]

Is it a 6.5 Swede AI'ed with a few changes? Meaning, can you use Swede brass in the rifle? Sounds pretty cool, just never heard of it.

Sounds way sweet but it would be a shame to punch mine out.

Yeah, I wouldn't mess around with yours Jake. You won't gain enough with the shorter tube and yours is pristine.. Rebarreling it to something else after you shot out a barrel, that is different, but yours is sweet as is..

 

[Mortis]

OK... a touch of background here..... my Bud in Texas shoots one of Trammel's builds..it's a 6.5-06 AI. He (Pecos) is a retired SF 1stSgt and often helps Trammel in his shop.

Anyway.... Pecos is handling the liaison work on my wife's Swede and I left the barrel choice to him. In discussion with Jon this came up. Jon keeps up on Benchrest shooting and it seems this cartridge is quietly becoming the new wonder cartridge.

Basically it is a fire formed 6.5 X 55 with some changes from an Ackley.

Therefore the search for knowledge is on........

Gonna post a message on another board I haunt where Dave Manson of Manson Reamers pops in. Maybe he'll have someting on it.

When I know anything....I'll post it here.

Thanks Gents....

 

[257 Ackley]

He called me last night concerning using a Brux Barrel as recommended by Mr. Trammel...

You can never go wrong using a Brux barrel...One of the top 3 cut-rifled barrels made in the US today. I see as many or more Brux barrels on the firing line for F-class matches as any other premium barrel made today. I know the one on my 6.5 WSM shoots little bitty groups, and that is with me squeezing the trigger :roll:.

 

[Mortis]

257 Ackley....

Actually...of all the barrels discussed.... Jon Trammel recommended the Brux... and he is darn picky.

Thanks for the personal info on Brux...... makes my decision yesterday to go with Brux more comforting.

 

[JLC0311]

Ok I love PacNors, great value and accuracy for the price. I have one Broughton which is out of this world. How do they compare to a Brux?

 

[Oldtrader3]

From what I've found one of the gunsmiths developed it at Kelbly, http://www.kelbly.com The guy's name is George Wilson hence the 6.5x55 George Wilson Improved. Can't find any data so my only concern would be whether that Husky is a small ring action or a large ring. If there is an increase in chamber pressure which I'm presuming since it is a performance benchrest round I'd stay away if your rifle is a small ring. It looks like you'd have to call Kelbly's to get data on it.

Hope this helps, Jimmy

Mortis, the 6.5x55mm Mauser Husqvarna action is 1.31 diameter which makes it a large ring, the same as the Browning High Power actions and even the InterArms Mark X actions. In fact, many of these HVA actions, after 1953, were made by FN-Herstal for many years until HVA stopped making sporting rifles for export to the US after 1968.

 

[JLC0311]

There were a lot of Husqvarnas that were built off of 96 actions, all we know is that Mortis has a Husky, not which action.

 

[Oldtrader3]

A lot of 96's were built by Husvarna prior to 1952. All HVA marked sporting rifles are built on large ring, FN or Husqvarna Mauser actions. I had a Crown grade HVA Model 3000 (1962) and a HVA Model 4100 Lightweight (1966) and both were Mauser large ring actions. The Crown Grade was proofed by FN as a High Power action. The HVA Lightweight was HVA proofed and was a Herstal clone, pretty much.

 

[Mortis]

The rifle was military issue originallu.... stock beat to death...barrel nearly shot out.

It now wears a Fajen Arisocritic Stock (a truer Fajen). We rebarreled with a New Swede, surplus, in the white, barrel, and added a Bold trigger.

Jim Kelbly said the action is not a problem.... suggested a Brux barrel....which so happens was already on order.

This is my Wife's Swede....

 

[Guy Miner]

I like it.

 

[JLC0311]

I saw the data on the GWI, SJB358 is right those loads are really stepping out there, wow.

If Kelbly says your cleared hot in your action for the new round, the congregation of 6.5 Freaks here are going to love to see what it does, I'm a little anxious myself.

That is a beautiful rifle! The only other thing I can think of to do to it would be to get it checkered to match the old school Huskys.

I really kick myself in the rear everytime I remember the influx that we had a few years back on Huskys and how cheap they were. I really would love to get my hands on one as a custom quality restoration job project.

 

[Mortis]

Thanks guys..... now this is pre-rebarrel.....

Once I get it rebarreled and back into my greasy hsands.... I'll post new photos.

Because this is my wife's rifle...it's going back to a straight 6.5X55.

BUT..... I've located 2 more actions locally and really think one of them needs to find it's way into my safe.... chambered in the 6.5GWI....

 

[Oldtrader3]

I think that is a good decision to put it back to 6.5x55 Swede. I assume that the action ring is 1.24 diameter and not 1.31. These forums can be misleading sometimes because people disseminate information without qualifying exactly and gramatically what they are referring to which leads to misunderstandings.

Thank you Mortis for clearing up the fact that this was a Pre-1952, military 6.5x55 Husky and not a commercial action, all of which that, if made after 1950, as sporting rifles, were large ring commercial Mauser sporters made exclusively by FN-Herstal or by HVA.