7mm wsm quickload request

bigd7378

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Oct 23, 2011
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I have a custom winchester model 70 classic, looking for some quickload data. What i have 7mm wsm, 3.10 oal, 26" barrel. Need quickload for 140&160 accubonds. Powder i have on hand is retumbo, rl-25, rl-50, vihtvauori n570, mrp2. Not opposed to other powders either. 65,000 max psi. Thanks
 
bigd7378,

Welcome to the forum. Your powders represent much slower rate of burn than is advisable with this cartridge. You will get better performance with a faster burn rate powder.
 
I tried Retumbo with 175's in my 7WSM and did pretty decent with it. Getting in the mid 2900's was pretty easy it seemed. I dropped back to RL22 with the 160 AB's and pretty much stopped there. I run 67gr RL22, CCI250's, WW cases and run about 3125 outta my rifle. It shoots into 3/4" really easily and has shot into about an 1" at 300 for four shots. I imagine if you work up to that load you should find something your rifle really likes. H1000 or IMR7828 would be great as well. Good luck. It's an awesome cartridge with alot of versatility. Scotty
 
Cartridge : 7 mm WSM
Bullet : .284, 140, Nosler AccuBond 59992
Useable Case Capaci: 76.829 grain H2O = 4.988 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.100 inch = 78.74 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 63817 psi, or 440 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 105 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

164 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Ramshot Magnum (Big Boy) 103.4 78.4 5.08 3378 99.7 63817 12941 1.153 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 101.0 73.1 4.74 3377 99.1 63817 13221 1.160 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517 103.7 78.4 5.08 3377 99.7 63817 12930 1.153 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12 103.6 78.3 5.07 3376 99.7 63817 12904 1.154 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 99.1 73.3 4.75 3375 100.0 63817 12765 1.166 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 99.8 72.6 4.71 3368 99.4 63817 12800 1.149 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO 101.2 76.2 4.94 3366 98.2 63817 13313 1.167 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213 100.9 72.2 4.68 3353 99.3 63817 12700 1.147 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 105.0 72.3 4.68 3351 99.3 62743 12764 1.158 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 101.3 72.5 4.70 3349 99.8 63817 12657 1.165 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 101.3 72.5 4.70 3349 99.8 63817 12657 1.165 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 101.3 72.5 4.70 3349 99.8 63817 12657 1.165 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR 104.0 72.8 4.72 3347 99.8 63817 12675 1.166 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214 104.7 77.0 4.99 3346 99.5 63817 12494 1.146 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905 102.6 72.1 4.67 3317 99.0 63817 12423 1.164 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation 104.5 75.5 4.89 3316 98.0 63817 12572 1.150 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 105.0 74.0 4.79 3312 100.0 59525 12171 1.193 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 97.8 68.9 4.46 3309 99.8 63817 12047 1.153 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 98.3 69.6 4.51 3306 99.8 63817 12104 1.160 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 99.0 70.1 4.55 3298 99.8 63817 12017 1.161 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 93.9 68.7 4.45 3293 100.0 63817 11622 1.168 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 96.4 68.3 4.42 3283 99.7 63817 11822 1.160 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4 96.4 68.3 4.42 3283 99.7 63817 11822 1.160 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 93.4 68.3 4.42 3283 99.7 63817 11822 1.160 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 103.6 71.3 4.62 3282 98.8 63817 12006 1.158 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC 99.6 71.3 4.62 3282 98.8 63817 12006 1.158 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 90.9 65.8 4.26 3269 100.0 63817 11287 1.176 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP 93.5 65.5 4.24 3268 100.0 63817 11151 1.173 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 93.5 65.5 4.25 3268 100.0 63817 11148 1.173 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 95.2 67.1 4.35 3264 100.0 63817 10803 1.181 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385 98.5 70.5 4.57 3262 100.0 63817 11519 1.181 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 96.8 65.6 4.25 3261 100.0 63817 11103 1.191 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904 97.3 68.0 4.40 3255 99.2 63817 11583 1.160 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 94.1 67.7 4.38 3253 100.0 63817 11329 1.172 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780 97.0 72.4 4.69 3253 99.7 63817 11495 1.167 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570 105.0 78.4 5.08 3247 94.2 52945 13892 1.259
IMR 4831 98.1 66.5 4.31 3246 100.0 63817 10902 1.182 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165 103.6 72.6 4.70 3245 99.9 63817 11259 1.172 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350 96.1 66.6 4.31 3241 100.0 63817 11158 1.163 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350 94.3 66.4 4.31 3240 100.0 63817 11132 1.163 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070 93.5 65.5 4.24 3238 100.0 63817 11139 1.178 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2 105.0 74.4 4.82 3237 98.7 55113 12872 1.249
Vihtavuori N160 103.9 70.5 4.57 3234 99.2 63817 11358 1.164 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907 91.5 63.6 4.12 3223 100.0 63817 11034 1.170 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361 96.3 72.6 4.71 3218 98.8 63817 11353 1.173 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 99.3 65.7 4.26 3216 100.0 63817 10295 1.175 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065 92.5 64.1 4.15 3212 100.0 63817 10714 1.177 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3 NT ~approximation 90.4 63.6 4.12 3206 100.0 63817 10525 1.162 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100 105.0 70.3 4.56 3177 100.0 59410 11041 1.236 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000 105.0 73.6 4.77 3171 98.2 53562 12097 1.241
Accurate 4064 90.1 59.7 3.87 3152 100.0 63817 9776 1.211 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N150 94.0 62.8 4.07 3150 100.0 63817 9758 1.183 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Retumbo 105.0 74.8 4.84 3118 99.5 47249 12534 1.320
Vihtavuori N135 90.3 57.9 3.75 3097 100.0 63817 9063 1.194 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2218 105.0 79.2 5.13 3083 90.9 46739 13455 1.322
Lovex D100 105.0 80.0 5.19 3063 88.9 53979 11475 1.262
Vihtavuori 24N41 105.0 79.2 5.13 3036 86.1 49397 11961 1.299
Vihtavuori N170 105.0 73.6 4.77 3000 91.2 49129 11446 1.332
Hodgdon H870 105.0 76.8 4.98 2990 92.4 42175 12648 1.405
Alliant Reloder-50 105.0 80.4 5.21 2945 88.9 40009 12878 1.461
Hodgdon US 869 105.0 79.2 5.13 2829 81.9 40344 11125 1.440
Hodgdon 50BMG 105.0 75.5 4.89 2828 77.6 40482 11091 1.434
SNPE Vectan SP 13 105.0 76.0 4.92 2774 86.3 37024 10966 1.505
Vihtavuori 20N29 105.0 80.0 5.19 2718 81.7 35048 10931 1.539
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520 105.0 76.0 4.92 2703 83.1 34785 10633 1.541
Accurate 8700 105.0 76.1 4.93 2675 83.4 33889 10557 1.547
NC A3502 ,test only 105.0 72.7 4.71 2489 58.5 32225 8251 1.588
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only 105.0 72.7 4.71 2464 63.1 30289 8699 1.631
Vihtavuori N32C Tin Star 99.1 35.0 2.27 2373 100.0 63817 4545 1.251 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AS 25 BP 105.0 25.1 1.62 1997 100.0 38876 3417 1.551
IMR TrailBoss 105.0 25.1 1.62 1997 100.0 38876 3417 1.551
V1734 7-multiperf ,test only 105.0 72.7 4.71 1770 28.9 16801 4057 2.110


Cartridge : 7 mm WSM
Bullet : .284, 160, Nosler AccuBond 54932
Useable Case Capaci: 74.919 grain H2O = 4.864 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.100 inch = 78.74 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 63817 psi, or 440 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 105 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

169 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Ramshot Magnum (Big Boy) 101.0 74.7 4.84 3182 100.0 63817 12629 1.222 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517 101.4 74.8 4.84 3182 100.0 63817 12618 1.222 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 98.6 69.6 4.51 3181 99.7 63817 12919 1.227 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12 101.3 74.6 4.84 3180 100.0 63817 12588 1.222 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO 98.9 72.6 4.70 3175 99.1 63817 13078 1.234 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 96.8 69.7 4.52 3172 100.0 63817 12379 1.235 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 97.5 69.2 4.48 3170 99.9 63817 12482 1.217 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 103.1 69.2 4.48 3170 99.9 63817 12482 1.217 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 104.5 71.8 4.65 3168 100.0 63817 11906 1.226 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570 105.0 76.5 4.95 3162 97.0 58010 14104 1.276 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213 98.6 68.9 4.46 3158 99.8 63817 12406 1.214 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214 102.5 73.5 4.76 3157 99.9 63817 12206 1.211 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 98.9 69.0 4.47 3150 100.0 63817 12298 1.233 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 98.9 69.0 4.47 3150 100.0 63817 12298 1.233 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 98.9 69.0 4.47 3150 100.0 63817 12298 1.233 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR 101.6 69.4 4.50 3149 100.0 63817 12326 1.234 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2 105.0 72.5 4.70 3132 99.8 60302 12764 1.270 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation 102.3 72.1 4.67 3130 98.9 63817 12388 1.216 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905 100.2 68.7 4.45 3124 99.6 63817 12145 1.232 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 95.6 65.7 4.26 3112 100.0 63817 11714 1.221 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 96.1 66.4 4.30 3109 100.0 63817 11769 1.228 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 96.8 66.9 4.33 3102 100.0 63817 11689 1.229 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC 97.4 68.0 4.41 3092 99.5 63817 11764 1.225 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 101.3 68.0 4.41 3092 99.5 63817 11764 1.225 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 91.7 65.4 4.24 3091 100.0 63817 11267 1.236 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4 94.3 65.1 4.22 3087 100.0 63817 11503 1.228 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 94.3 65.1 4.22 3087 100.0 63817 11503 1.228 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 91.3 65.1 4.22 3087 100.0 63817 11503 1.228 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000 105.0 71.7 4.65 3068 99.7 57990 12034 1.265 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385 96.2 67.2 4.35 3066 100.0 63817 11169 1.249 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904 95.3 64.9 4.20 3063 99.8 63817 11309 1.228 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP 91.3 62.4 4.04 3063 100.0 63817 10797 1.243 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 91.3 62.4 4.04 3063 100.0 63817 10794 1.243 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780 94.9 69.1 4.48 3061 100.0 63817 11205 1.235 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 92.0 64.5 4.18 3057 100.0 63817 10979 1.241 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 94.4 62.4 4.04 3056 100.0 63817 10736 1.261 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 92.8 63.7 4.13 3054 100.0 63817 10459 1.253 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165 101.4 69.2 4.49 3052 100.0 63817 10938 1.240 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 101.7 67.3 4.36 3045 99.7 63817 11104 1.232 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350 94.0 63.5 4.12 3045 100.0 63817 10815 1.231 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100 104.8 68.4 4.43 3044 100.0 63817 10787 1.266 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350 92.3 63.4 4.11 3044 100.0 63817 10788 1.231 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 95.8 63.3 4.10 3043 100.0 63817 10558 1.252 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070 91.4 62.4 4.04 3040 100.0 63817 10786 1.247 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361 94.3 69.4 4.50 3033 99.5 63817 11137 1.240 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Retumbo 105.0 72.9 4.72 3024 100.0 51411 12320 1.341
ADI AR 2218 105.0 77.2 5.01 3023 95.0 50633 13894 1.340
Lovex S065 90.5 61.1 3.96 3013 100.0 63817 10381 1.246 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 96.9 62.6 4.05 3011 100.0 63817 9970 1.246 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D100 105.0 78.0 5.06 2975 92.2 58465 11787 1.286 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 24N41 105.0 77.2 5.01 2959 89.9 53369 12384 1.321
Vihtavuori N150 91.9 59.9 3.88 2948 100.0 63817 9467 1.254 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H870 105.0 74.9 4.85 2922 95.8 46175 12952 1.422
Vihtavuori N170 105.0 71.7 4.65 2910 94.3 53109 11687 1.356
Alliant Reloder-50 105.0 78.4 5.08 2893 93.0 44531 13332 1.470
Hodgdon US 869 105.0 77.2 5.01 2767 86.2 43774 11624 1.461
Hodgdon 50BMG 105.0 73.6 4.77 2764 81.9 43884 11630 1.457
SNPE Vectan SP 13 105.0 74.1 4.80 2713 90.5 40433 11383 1.524
Vihtavuori 20N29 105.0 78.0 5.06 2672 86.5 38307 11484 1.560
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520 105.0 74.1 4.80 2648 87.6 37906 11113 1.568
Accurate 8700 105.0 74.3 4.81 2626 88.2 36781 11071 1.579
NC A3502 ,test only 105.0 70.9 4.60 2437 63.4 34434 8942 1.625
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only 105.0 70.9 4.60 2414 67.8 32517 9309 1.669
Vihtavuori N32C Tin Star 98.8 34.0 2.20 2217 100.0 63817 4456 1.335 ! Near Maximum !
IMR TrailBoss 105.0 24.4 1.58 1867 100.0 39231 3348 1.653
ADI AS 25 BP 105.0 24.4 1.58 1867 100.0 39231 3348 1.653
V1734 7-multiperf ,test only 105.0 70.9 4.60 1731 31.4 17838 4411 2.173
 
Man, with Ramshot's Magnum looks pretty good as well. It'll be hard to try much else though with the 160 AB/RL22, 3125 FPS with them is scootin pretty decent and it is pretty accurate. Scotty

This was 5 shot at 300 by Woodycreek. Even with that wide flyer, its an MOA group.

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This is a fairly typical 100 yard group with 67gr of RL22. It is just three shots fired as fast as I could aim and work the bolt.

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66.5

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66gr

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This was 72.5gr Retumbo. This group was shot early in the break in process, so I imagine now, it would be much better, but it does give you an idea of what it'll do. I think that load ran around 2950 or so.

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Anytime. Welcome to the friendliest forum! :wink:
 
I have a winchester 7mm wsm as well. Give H4350 a try. It took my groups from 1 inch at 100 yards to under 1/2 moa at 100 yards. I have used this rifle for a couple 1000 yards shots with H4350 and 168 grain berger target vld bullets. Good luck, and welcome to the forum!
 
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