7x57 quikload request

The 7x57 needs no improvement other than being loading to proper modern pressure levels. In modern rifle that come chambered to the .270 Win., the same rifles in 7x57 loaded to .270 Win. pressure levels would be just fine.
One of the big problems preventing proper load levels is not just the older 93 and 95 Mausers but modern gunsmiths have chambered the rifles with various different throat lengths. What may work in a Winchester M70 may be way over pressure in a Remington M70 or Ruger &&. Even custom gun have throats even more disparate throat lengths than the commercial guns.
Prime examples, My M70 FWT and Ruger #1 can use the same top level loads without a problem but loads have to be cut back quite a bit for the custom Mauser I have. As a matter of fact, even the rather mild Winchester 145 gr. Power Points show slight signs of high pressure and higher velocity than the same ammo in the other two rifles. Load work up for the Mauser is an ongoing project at this time that is on hold due to my wife's illness.
Paul B.
 
PJGunner":3i0kjh4u said:
The 7x57 needs no improvement other than being loading to proper modern pressure levels. In modern rifle that come chambered to the .270 Win., the same rifles in 7x57 loaded to .270 Win. pressure levels would be just fine.
One of the big problems preventing proper load levels is not just the older 93 and 95 Mausers but modern gunsmiths have chambered the rifles with various different throat lengths. What may work in a Winchester M70 may be way over pressure in a Remington M70 or Ruger &&. Even custom gun have throats even more disparate throat lengths than the commercial guns.
Prime examples, My M70 FWT and Ruger #1 can use the same top level loads without a problem but loads have to be cut back quite a bit for the custom Mauser I have. As a matter of fact, even the rather mild Winchester 145 gr. Power Points show slight signs of high pressure and higher velocity than the same ammo in the other two rifles. Load work up for the Mauser is an ongoing project at this time that is on hold due to my wife's illness.
Paul B.
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You two are in my prayers Paul. Sorry to hear she is sick. Scotty B
 
Mine Prayers too Paul...my little wife just got through with a good scare...Lumpectomy for "marker" Atypical cells. She's fine now, no cancer even in the excised tissue. Thank God for wives! (y)
 
My wife had a stroke on 2 APR16. Twenty-eight days in the hospital,40 days in home therapy. I figure she's recovered about 60 percent but her memory is shot. Kind of makes it hard to leave her alone for any length of time.
Paul B.
 
PJGunner":2zfiidj5 said:
My wife had a stroke on 2 APR16. Twenty-eight days in the hospital,40 days in home therapy. I figure she's recovered about 60 percent but her memory is shot. Kind of makes it hard to leave her alone for any length of time.
Paul B.
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I'm sorry to hear that brother. Again, you two are in my prayers tonight. Wish her and you the best.
 
PJGunner":1ekld3ds said:
My wife had a stroke on 2 APR16. Twenty-eight days in the hospital,40 days in home therapy. I figure she's recovered about 60 percent but her memory is shot. Kind of makes it hard to leave her alone for any length of time.
Paul B.
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Paul,

Caring for a loved one felled by stroke is one of the most thankless and challenging tasks any individual will ever be assigned. May the Good Lord be merciful to her and to you, granting her recovery and you strength. I've visited far too many good people bravely facing an uncertain future as result of stroke.
 
elkhunternm":3pqxmtox said:
I use 51.0 grs VV N-165,WLR and a 175 gr Partition in my CZ 7x57. Getting 2600 fps from the almost 24" barrel.
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That's a hitter. Have you taken any animals with it?
 
preacher":xkdvy0he said:
Well Dr Mike...in for a penny...
How about data ( up to 65K) for the 154SST, the 175 Partition and the 150 Partition/Ballistic tip...pretty please? Thanks
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Cartridge : 7 x 57 mm Mauser
Bullet : .284, 150, Nosler BalTip 39586
Useable Case Capaci: 51.786 grain H2O = 3.362 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.071 inch = 78.00 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 60000 psi, or 413 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

6 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26 110.0 56.5 3.66 2959 99.7 59705 12272 1.075 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60 100.3 50.2 3.25 2912 100.0 60000 10954 1.072 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 110.0 54.8 3.55 2903 97.7 58672 12067 1.087 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70 106.4 54.1 3.51 2895 98.3 60000 11737 1.072 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 99.4 49.8 3.22 2892 100.0 60000 10891 1.079 ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17 99.4 49.8 3.22 2892 100.0 60000 10891 1.079 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 106.7 50.7 3.28 2870 100.0 60000 10406 1.089 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 106.4 49.5 3.21 2869 100.0 60000 10767 1.089 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 110.0 53.9 3.50 2865 94.5 59915 11615 1.075 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62 103.0 51.5 3.34 2862 99.6 60000 10972 1.096 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518 104.9 51.7 3.35 2852 98.5 60000 11094 1.087 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511 100.8 51.2 3.32 2851 98.7 60000 11044 1.088 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 104.1 51.3 3.33 2849 98.7 60000 11028 1.088 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 98.3 49.6 3.21 2841 98.1 60000 10985 1.092 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 98.3 49.6 3.21 2841 98.1 60000 10985 1.092 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 108.6 51.8 3.36 2839 96.4 60000 11156 1.084 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP 103.6 48.9 3.17 2835 99.6 60000 10657 1.095 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 103.6 48.9 3.17 2834 99.6 60000 10654 1.095 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 103.0 49.2 3.19 2833 99.7 60000 10654 1.110 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 100.6 49.1 3.18 2833 99.6 60000 10774 1.101 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 109.3 52.2 3.38 2832 96.4 60000 11068 1.085 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 107.7 51.1 3.31 2832 96.2 60000 11040 1.079 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 110.0 53.7 3.48 2830 93.2 55830 11816 1.113 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213 110.0 53.1 3.44 2825 93.9 58429 11386 1.088 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 108.8 49.7 3.22 2818 99.7 60000 10442 1.103 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 106.2 50.7 3.28 2813 96.1 60000 10820 1.086 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 102.8 50.7 3.28 2813 96.1 60000 10820 1.086 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4 106.2 50.7 3.28 2813 96.1 60000 10820 1.086 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 110.0 53.1 3.44 2810 95.5 55038 11520 1.123
Alliant Reloder-22 110.0 53.1 3.44 2810 95.5 55038 11520 1.123
Raufoss RA15 110.0 53.1 3.44 2810 95.5 55038 11520 1.123
Somchem S385 108.9 52.6 3.41 2809 97.4 60000 10745 1.102 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 106.5 49.2 3.19 2804 100.0 60000 9847 1.092 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO 110.0 55.8 3.62 2802 91.0 54801 11710 1.126
Hodgdon H4831 SC 109.4 52.8 3.42 2797 93.7 60000 10780 1.084 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 103.7 50.3 3.26 2797 97.7 60000 10551 1.098 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum 110.0 57.2 3.71 2795 96.0 56707 11093 1.104 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780 106.8 53.7 3.48 2789 96.1 60000 10536 1.088 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old 95.9 46.3 3.00 2787 100.0 60000 9900 1.118 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3 95.9 46.3 3.00 2787 100.0 60000 9900 1.118 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380 95.3 46.5 3.01 2785 99.4 60000 10214 1.109 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070 102.8 48.5 3.14 2782 98.1 60000 10394 1.110 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903 98.1 46.3 3.00 2781 100.0 60000 9823 1.118 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904 106.7 50.2 3.25 2776 94.9 60000 10452 1.092 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355 98.0 45.8 2.97 2775 100.0 60000 9816 1.113 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065 101.4 47.4 3.07 2762 98.9 60000 10056 1.111 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.6 90.9 44.7 2.90 2756 100.0 60000 9277 1.122 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron 110.0 51.1 3.31 2756 94.0 59389 10414 1.098 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7 100.0 46.9 3.04 2755 97.4 60000 10130 1.107 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907 100.0 46.9 3.04 2755 97.4 60000 10130 1.107 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC 96.9 46.9 3.04 2754 97.4 60000 10122 1.107 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064 95.6 44.6 2.89 2753 100.0 60000 9267 1.139 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361 105.5 53.6 3.48 2741 93.8 60000 10186 1.103 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905 110.0 52.1 3.38 2737 92.5 53282 10903 1.144
Alliant Reloder-23 110.0 51.4 3.33 2733 99.5 49624 10755 1.177
Accurate 3100 110.0 52.5 3.40 2731 97.9 54542 10410 1.159
Bofors RP15 110.0 51.9 3.37 2724 93.9 50089 11198 1.174
Winchester WXR 110.0 51.9 3.37 2724 93.9 50089 11198 1.174
SNPE Vectan SP 12 110.0 56.1 3.63 2723 92.3 51153 11321 1.155
PB Clermont PCL 517 110.0 56.1 3.63 2717 92.0 50870 11305 1.158
Hodgdon H4831 110.0 51.0 3.31 2691 91.9 53080 10385 1.146
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation 110.0 53.5 3.47 2678 89.1 52121 10598 1.154
IMR 7828 110.0 51.0 3.31 2678 91.1 48856 10905 1.181
ADI AP 2214 110.0 54.5 3.53 2673 91.2 50973 10743 1.161
Vihtavuori N165 110.0 51.9 3.37 2668 95.1 51758 10063 1.166
Alliant Reloder-25 110.0 52.2 3.38 2659 96.4 45224 11132 1.223
Vihtavuori N160 110.0 50.3 3.26 2657 93.1 53138 9886 1.155
Lovex S071 110.0 49.7 3.22 2559 95.6 44229 9909 1.276
Bofors RP30 110.0 52.5 3.40 2551 88.7 40413 10810 1.295
Norma MRP 2 110.0 52.5 3.40 2551 88.7 40413 10810 1.295
IMR 7977 Enduron 110.0 51.9 3.37 2550 82.5 52097 9120 1.174
Vihtavuori N570 110.0 55.4 3.59 2506 79.4 39603 10886 1.308
Hodgdon H1000 110.0 51.9 3.37 2500 87.3 42192 9981 1.269
ADI AR 2217 110.0 51.9 3.37 2500 87.3 42192 9981 1.269
Hodgdon Retumbo 110.0 52.8 3.42 2425 88.1 36186 10422 1.364
ADI AR 2225 110.0 52.8 3.42 2425 88.1 36186 10422 1.364
Alliant Reloder-33 110.0 57.0 3.69 2421 77.5 37004 10386 1.355
Lovex D100 110.0 56.5 3.66 2405 75.3 41962 8925 1.290
ReloadSwiss RS 80 110.0 57.0 3.69 2364 76.2 35337 10089 1.382
Vihtavuori N170 110.0 51.9 3.37 2362 78.6 37161 9056 1.371
Vihtavuori 24N41 110.0 55.9 3.62 2359 70.9 39096 9026 1.329
ADI AR 2218 110.0 55.9 3.62 2334 71.0 36680 9633 1.366
Norma 217 110.0 51.7 3.35 2312 83.6 30727 10071 1.462
Hodgdon H870 110.0 54.2 3.51 2282 75.7 31603 9593 1.449
Alliant Reloder-50 110.0 56.8 3.68 2203 70.0 28365 9423 1.517
Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 110.0 55.5 3.60 2200 64.8 29449 8791 1.512
Hodgdon 50BMG 110.0 53.3 3.45 2182 62.4 31552 8121 1.460
Hodgdon US 869 110.0 55.9 3.62 2175 65.8 31236 8177 1.469
SNPE Vectan SP 13 110.0 53.7 3.48 2124 69.8 28032 8144 1.532
Accurate 8700 110.0 54.8 3.55 2079 66.5 28119 7785 1.535
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520 110.0 53.7 3.48 2062 66.1 26539 7742 1.569
Vihtavuori 20N29 110.0 56.5 3.66 2047 63.2 26523 7751 1.572
NC A3502 ,test only 110.0 51.4 3.33 1920 44.9 26390 5579 1.593
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only 110.0 51.4 3.33 1898 48.5 24391 5926 1.639
V1734 7-multiperf ,test only 110.0 51.4 3.33 1366 22.1 14093 2709 2.154


Cartridge : 7 x 57 mm Mauser
Bullet : .284, 154, Hornady SST InterLock 28302
Useable Case Capaci: 51.485 grain H2O = 3.343 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.071 inch = 78.00 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 60000 psi, or 413 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

6 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26 109.6 55.9 3.62 2927 99.8 60000 12187 1.085 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 110.0 54.5 3.53 2884 98.1 59696 12046 1.091 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60 99.8 49.7 3.22 2874 100.0 60000 10854 1.086 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70 105.9 53.6 3.47 2860 98.5 60000 11672 1.085 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 98.9 49.2 3.19 2854 100.0 60000 10790 1.092 ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17 98.9 49.2 3.19 2854 100.0 60000 10790 1.092 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 109.6 53.4 3.46 2833 94.9 60000 11580 1.087 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 106.2 50.1 3.25 2831 100.0 60000 10309 1.102 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 105.9 48.9 3.17 2831 100.0 60000 10666 1.102 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62 102.5 51.0 3.30 2824 99.7 60000 10885 1.110 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518 104.4 51.2 3.32 2816 98.7 60000 11025 1.100 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511 100.3 50.7 3.29 2814 98.9 60000 10971 1.101 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 103.6 50.8 3.29 2813 98.9 60000 10955 1.101 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 110.0 53.3 3.46 2812 93.9 56750 11835 1.118 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213 110.0 52.8 3.42 2806 94.6 59318 11400 1.093 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 97.8 49.1 3.18 2805 98.3 60000 10915 1.105 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 97.8 49.1 3.18 2805 98.3 60000 10915 1.105 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 108.1 51.3 3.32 2805 96.7 60000 11102 1.097 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 107.2 50.6 3.28 2798 96.5 60000 10991 1.092 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP 103.1 48.4 3.14 2798 99.7 60000 10571 1.109 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 108.9 51.7 3.35 2798 96.6 60000 11016 1.098 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 103.1 48.4 3.14 2797 99.7 60000 10568 1.109 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 100.1 48.5 3.14 2796 99.7 60000 10691 1.114 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 102.5 48.7 3.15 2796 99.8 60000 10565 1.124 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 110.0 52.8 3.42 2791 96.0 55967 11522 1.128 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 110.0 52.8 3.42 2791 96.0 55967 11522 1.128 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 110.0 52.8 3.42 2791 96.0 55967 11522 1.128 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO 110.0 55.5 3.60 2785 91.7 55748 11744 1.130 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 108.3 49.2 3.19 2782 99.8 60000 10357 1.117 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum 110.0 56.9 3.68 2778 96.6 57665 11092 1.108 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 105.7 50.2 3.25 2778 96.4 60000 10768 1.100 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4 105.7 50.2 3.25 2778 96.4 60000 10768 1.100 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 102.4 50.2 3.25 2778 96.4 60000 10768 1.100 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385 108.4 52.0 3.37 2774 97.6 60000 10686 1.116 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 105.9 48.6 3.15 2766 100.0 60000 9754 1.106 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC 108.9 52.3 3.39 2764 94.1 60000 10745 1.097 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 103.2 49.7 3.22 2762 98.0 60000 10490 1.112 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780 106.3 53.2 3.45 2755 96.4 60000 10493 1.101 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old 95.4 45.8 2.97 2750 100.0 60000 9806 1.132 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3 95.4 45.8 2.97 2750 100.0 60000 9806 1.132 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380 94.8 46.0 2.98 2748 99.5 60000 10135 1.123 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070 102.3 48.0 3.11 2747 98.4 60000 10329 1.123 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903 97.6 45.8 2.97 2744 100.0 60000 9728 1.131 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904 106.3 49.7 3.22 2742 95.2 60000 10407 1.105 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355 97.5 45.3 2.93 2737 100.0 60000 9723 1.127 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron 109.9 50.7 3.29 2731 94.5 60000 10408 1.106 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065 100.9 46.9 3.04 2726 99.1 60000 9986 1.124 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907 99.6 46.4 3.01 2720 97.6 60000 10070 1.121 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7 99.6 46.4 3.01 2720 97.6 60000 10070 1.121 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905 110.0 51.8 3.36 2719 93.2 54171 10921 1.148
IMR 4007 SSC 96.4 46.4 3.01 2719 97.6 60000 10063 1.121 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.6 90.4 44.2 2.87 2718 100.0 60000 9187 1.136 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064 95.1 44.1 2.86 2714 100.0 60000 9176 1.153 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23 110.0 51.1 3.31 2713 99.7 50499 10703 1.182
Accurate 3100 110.0 52.2 3.38 2712 98.3 55588 10384 1.163 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12 110.0 55.7 3.61 2709 93.0 52014 11355 1.159
Somchem S361 105.0 53.1 3.44 2708 94.2 60000 10151 1.116 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR 110.0 51.6 3.35 2706 94.6 50928 11213 1.179
Bofors RP15 110.0 51.6 3.35 2706 94.6 50928 11213 1.179
PB Clermont PCL 517 110.0 55.7 3.61 2703 92.8 51726 11342 1.162
Hodgdon H4831 110.0 50.7 3.29 2672 92.6 53890 10405 1.152
IMR 7828 110.0 50.7 3.29 2662 91.9 49633 10936 1.186
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation 110.0 53.2 3.45 2661 89.9 52872 10638 1.159
ADI AP 2214 110.0 54.2 3.51 2658 92.0 51760 10782 1.165
Vihtavuori N165 110.0 51.6 3.35 2649 95.7 52617 10063 1.171
Alliant Reloder-25 110.0 51.9 3.36 2644 97.0 45953 11134 1.228
Vihtavuori N160 110.0 50.1 3.24 2637 93.6 53948 9896 1.161
Lovex S071 110.0 49.4 3.20 2543 96.1 45089 9907 1.281
Bofors RP30 110.0 52.2 3.38 2538 89.6 41111 10863 1.299
Norma MRP 2 110.0 52.2 3.38 2538 89.6 41111 10863 1.299
IMR 7977 Enduron 110.0 51.6 3.35 2533 83.2 52848 9163 1.180
Vihtavuori N570 110.0 55.0 3.57 2497 80.5 40257 10989 1.312
Hodgdon H1000 110.0 51.6 3.35 2487 88.2 42835 10040 1.274
ADI AR 2217 110.0 51.6 3.35 2487 88.2 42835 10040 1.274
Hodgdon Retumbo 110.0 52.5 3.40 2415 89.2 36753 10505 1.369
ADI AR 2225 110.0 52.5 3.40 2415 89.2 36753 10505 1.369
Alliant Reloder-33 110.0 56.6 3.67 2413 78.7 37611 10501 1.359
Lovex D100 110.0 56.2 3.64 2393 76.2 42617 8998 1.296
ReloadSwiss RS 80 110.0 56.6 3.67 2357 77.4 35912 10215 1.387
Vihtavuori N170 110.0 51.6 3.35 2350 79.5 37800 9121 1.376
Vihtavuori 24N41 110.0 55.6 3.60 2348 71.9 39681 9121 1.335
ADI AR 2218 110.0 55.6 3.60 2326 72.4 37235 9796 1.372
Norma 217 110.0 51.4 3.33 2305 84.8 31251 10172 1.467
Hodgdon H870 110.0 53.9 3.49 2275 76.9 32116 9710 1.455
Alliant Reloder-50 110.0 56.5 3.66 2198 71.3 28865 9562 1.522
Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 110.0 55.2 3.58 2193 65.8 30027 8896 1.518
Hodgdon 50BMG 110.0 53.0 3.43 2173 63.4 32029 8219 1.467
Hodgdon US 869 110.0 55.6 3.60 2166 66.8 31709 8279 1.476
SNPE Vectan SP 13 110.0 53.3 3.46 2117 70.9 28481 8245 1.539
Accurate 8700 110.0 54.5 3.53 2073 67.7 28545 7905 1.541
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520 110.0 53.3 3.46 2055 67.2 26950 7847 1.577
Vihtavuori 20N29 110.0 56.2 3.64 2041 64.3 26940 7872 1.579
NC A3502 ,test only 110.0 51.1 3.31 1910 45.7 26734 5657 1.603
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only 110.0 51.1 3.31 1888 49.4 24722 6019 1.649
V1734 7-multiperf ,test only 110.0 51.1 3.31 1359 22.4 14255 2747 2.169



Cartridge : 7 x 57 mm Mauser
Bullet : .284, 175, Nosler PART SP 35645
Useable Case Capaci: 50.900 grain H2O = 3.305 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.071 inch = 78.00 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 60000 psi, or 413 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

7 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26 106.5 53.7 3.48 2756 100.0 60000 11837 1.152 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 107.0 52.4 3.40 2723 99.2 60000 11856 1.154 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 108.6 52.1 3.37 2704 96.5 60000 11952 1.154 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70 103.2 51.6 3.34 2701 99.5 60000 11474 1.148 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO 109.0 54.4 3.52 2696 94.9 60000 11980 1.158 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60 96.9 47.7 3.09 2695 100.0 60000 10508 1.152 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 108.9 51.7 3.35 2690 98.2 60000 11582 1.159 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 108.9 51.7 3.35 2690 98.2 60000 11582 1.159 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 108.9 51.7 3.35 2690 98.2 60000 11582 1.159 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 106.8 51.5 3.33 2681 96.8 60000 11525 1.149 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 95.9 47.2 3.06 2674 100.0 60000 10437 1.160 ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17 95.9 47.2 3.06 2674 100.0 60000 10437 1.160 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213 107.6 51.0 3.31 2666 96.6 60000 11397 1.150 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum 108.3 55.3 3.59 2663 98.6 60000 11084 1.151 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12 110.0 55.1 3.57 2661 96.8 57812 11662 1.166 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517 110.0 55.1 3.57 2656 96.6 57479 11661 1.169 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 102.5 46.9 3.04 2651 100.0 60000 10298 1.172 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62 99.4 48.9 3.17 2651 100.0 60000 10564 1.178 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905 109.9 51.2 3.32 2650 96.4 60000 11167 1.162 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518 101.4 49.1 3.18 2647 99.5 60000 10797 1.167 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 102.8 48.0 3.11 2647 100.0 60000 9968 1.173 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511 97.3 48.7 3.15 2645 99.6 60000 10727 1.169 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 100.6 48.7 3.16 2644 99.6 60000 10713 1.169 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 105.1 49.3 3.20 2643 98.1 60000 10967 1.163 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 104.4 48.7 3.16 2640 97.9 60000 10876 1.156 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR 110.0 51.1 3.31 2640 97.5 56510 11432 1.191 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15 110.0 51.1 3.31 2640 97.5 56510 11432 1.191 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 94.9 47.1 3.05 2637 99.2 60000 10691 1.172 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 94.9 47.1 3.05 2637 99.2 60000 10691 1.172 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 105.9 49.7 3.22 2637 98.0 60000 10888 1.163 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23 110.0 50.5 3.27 2633 100.0 56356 10515 1.194 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP 100.0 46.4 3.01 2625 100.0 60000 10256 1.177 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 100.1 46.4 3.01 2625 100.0 60000 10253 1.177 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 97.1 46.6 3.02 2624 100.0 60000 10387 1.182 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 99.4 46.6 3.02 2623 100.0 60000 10234 1.193 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 102.8 48.2 3.12 2617 97.8 60000 10643 1.166 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4 102.8 48.2 3.12 2617 97.8 60000 10643 1.166 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 99.5 48.2 3.12 2617 97.8 60000 10643 1.166 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC 106.1 50.3 3.26 2612 96.0 60000 10708 1.161 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385 105.4 50.0 3.24 2612 98.8 60000 10517 1.183 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 105.0 47.2 3.06 2610 100.0 60000 10040 1.185 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100 108.9 51.1 3.31 2607 99.6 60000 10298 1.193 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214 110.0 53.6 3.47 2607 96.0 56976 11115 1.177 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 110.0 50.2 3.25 2603 95.6 54674 11252 1.199
Hodgdon H4831 110.0 50.2 3.25 2601 95.8 59213 10671 1.168 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780 103.5 51.2 3.32 2599 97.8 60000 10403 1.167 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 100.3 47.8 3.10 2599 99.0 60000 10309 1.179 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation 110.0 52.6 3.41 2598 93.7 57805 11018 1.176 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 102.7 46.6 3.02 2591 100.0 60000 9432 1.176 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904 103.4 47.8 3.10 2585 96.8 60000 10320 1.171 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 110.0 51.3 3.33 2585 99.4 50824 11225 1.238
Lovex S070 99.4 46.1 2.99 2583 99.3 60000 10123 1.190 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380 92.1 44.2 2.86 2580 100.0 60000 9855 1.190 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron 107.0 48.9 3.17 2577 96.2 60000 10354 1.171 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165 110.0 51.1 3.31 2576 98.2 58337 10194 1.186 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old 92.5 43.9 2.84 2574 100.0 60000 9478 1.201 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3 92.5 43.9 2.84 2574 100.0 60000 9478 1.201 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903 94.6 43.9 2.85 2569 100.0 60000 9398 1.200 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355 94.7 43.4 2.82 2564 100.0 60000 9402 1.195 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065 98.1 45.0 2.92 2562 99.7 60000 9752 1.191 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 110.0 49.5 3.21 2561 96.5 59207 10101 1.180 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907 96.9 44.6 2.89 2560 98.8 60000 9905 1.186 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7 96.9 44.6 2.89 2560 98.8 60000 9905 1.186 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC 93.9 44.7 2.89 2559 98.8 60000 9898 1.187 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361 102.3 51.2 3.31 2558 95.9 60000 10111 1.181 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064 92.0 42.2 2.74 2535 100.0 60000 8857 1.224 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP30 110.0 51.6 3.34 2497 94.0 45803 11291 1.307
Norma MRP 2 110.0 51.6 3.34 2497 94.0 45803 11291 1.307
Lovex S071 110.0 48.8 3.16 2480 98.6 50642 10007 1.289
Vihtavuori N570 110.0 54.4 3.53 2474 86.4 44657 11725 1.317
IMR 7977 Enduron 110.0 51.1 3.31 2469 87.3 57707 9569 1.199 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2217 110.0 51.1 3.31 2445 93.0 47083 10494 1.286
Hodgdon H1000 110.0 51.1 3.31 2445 93.0 47083 10494 1.286
Alliant Reloder-33 110.0 56.0 3.63 2398 84.9 41706 11293 1.362
ADI AR 2225 110.0 51.9 3.36 2389 94.6 40529 11044 1.377
Hodgdon Retumbo 110.0 51.9 3.36 2389 94.6 40529 11044 1.377
Lovex D100 110.0 55.5 3.60 2355 81.3 46993 9571 1.307
ReloadSwiss RS 80 110.0 56.0 3.63 2348 84.1 39793 11065 1.393
Vihtavuori 24N41 110.0 55.0 3.56 2319 77.5 43544 9822 1.346
ADI AR 2218 110.0 55.0 3.56 2319 80.0 40935 10860 1.378
Vihtavuori N170 110.0 51.1 3.31 2309 84.4 42105 9639 1.386
Norma 217 110.0 50.8 3.29 2292 91.0 34778 10831 1.481
Hodgdon H870 110.0 53.3 3.45 2263 83.4 35554 10507 1.469
Alliant Reloder-50 110.0 55.8 3.62 2203 78.4 32292 10496 1.531
Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 110.0 54.6 3.54 2180 71.5 34034 9656 1.532
Hodgdon 50BMG 110.0 52.4 3.40 2150 68.9 35202 8937 1.488
Hodgdon US 869 110.0 55.0 3.56 2147 72.6 34870 9011 1.494
SNPE Vectan SP 13 110.0 52.7 3.42 2101 77.1 31446 8958 1.558
Accurate 8700 110.0 53.9 3.49 2065 74.6 31390 8726 1.559
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520 110.0 52.7 3.42 2042 73.5 29696 8584 1.597
Vihtavuori 20N29 110.0 55.5 3.60 2038 71.0 29750 8709 1.594
NC A3502 ,test only 110.0 50.5 3.27 1883 50.2 29000 6256 1.634
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only 110.0 50.5 3.27 1863 54.4 26901 6695 1.679
V1734 7-multiperf ,test only 110.0 50.5 3.27 1337 24.6 15309 3044 2.221


RL17 is your friend here Jim. It has worked REALLY well in my boy's 7x57.
 
Sheboygin! Those are some great loads all! I would think that even at 2600, that 175PT would be a real thumper. Any faster is just added gravy, wow. The speeds/pressures you guys listed for me will keep me happy, even if I end up not getting there, ie. accuracy over speed. The great part about 7mm bullets I've seen through the years ( I've used 280/280AI/7mm Mag and with the 150 PT/BT mostly!) is they kill just fine at about "any speed", ha. I never loaded my Mod 700 Classic 257 Roberts to the old pressure limits, especially when I had it Improved. I never had an issue with it, cases lasted forever. ( Remington)
I'll give some feedback. In meantime, later this summer I will do some water jug testing. What distance do you shoot your water jugs at Scotty, close or far or does it just depend what you want to see it do?
 
The 175 gr load I listed came from the Nosler Reloading manual. Just one difference,they list 50.5 grains as max for the VV N-165. I decided to live on the wild side and added the .5 grain,velocity is the same though. ;)
 
The 175 gr load I listed came from the Nosler Reloading manual. Just one difference,they list 50.5 grains as max for the VV N-165. I decided to live on the wild side and added the .5 grain,velocity is the same though. ;)
 
Is this load also in Privi brass? Do you "prep" your cases i.e. deburr flash hole, uniform primer pockets, weigh cases with the privy and how many rounds do you normally get per case? I've read that the privy 308 was kinda brittle.
 
Yes,it is Privi brass. No,I don't prep the cases. Right now,have only used them twice and so far,so good.
 
Thanks Pard. I've always worked up a good load , then load 50 in new brass ( or at most, once fired in that rifle) set aside for hunting. I then take another 20-50 and use them repeatedly for practice, zeroing, etc. In that way I can get a good idea how long they last and it lowers the risk of a failed case on the hunt. I get good mileage that way, ha. I've still got some 35 Whelen AI loads from 1996, originally loaded in new, only fireformed cases. Through the years, other than watching trim length of course, deburring flasholes has been the payoff, even more so than uniforming primer pockets. Of course, Norma, Nosler, lapua, I've never had a need to do either. I have knocked 1/2" off my groups by prepping cases like WW, Remington, Federal, etc. I even had good results prepping levergun ammo. I have also ran into some rifles that it just didn't matter what I did to the brass, ha. Fun hobby for sure...
 
Could I get QL Data for the 140 AccuBond? SPS had a sale on both them and the 175 Partition! I ordered both. Going to wait and see what loads all my available bullets prefer "before" I start stocking ( not hoarding! :) ) up. I did receive a box of Norma 156gr ammo from Cabela's yesterday ( ordered them "before" I found a place $10 cheaper!) and they look "smashing". :)
 
preacher":1yirk6ox said:
Could I get QL Data for the 140 AccuBond? SPS had a sale on both them and the 175 Partition! I ordered both. Going to wait and see what loads all my available bullets prefer "before" I start stocking ( not hoarding! :) ) up. I did receive a box of Norma 156gr ammo from Cabela's yesterday ( ordered them "before" I found a place $10 cheaper!) and they look "smashing". :)
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That bullet is a screamer with RL17 in my boys rifle. I wanna say I was around 2920'ish with it in the Norma brass. It was a toss up between it and the 150 Partition when it is time to hunt.

Not near QL right now, but I think it would be a great place to start.
 
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