Couldn't believe it
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Long,
Guns are just like golf, you can't play the game with just one club.
IF you are not sure about a 7mm RUM, step it up to some real horse power. Get a 338 RUM. :wink: When it comes to killing game, you gotta see it to believe it. :grin:
JD338
Guns are just like golf, you can't play the game with just one club.
IF you are not sure about a 7mm RUM, step it up to some real horse power. Get a 338 RUM. :wink: When it comes to killing game, you gotta see it to believe it. :grin:
JD338
DrMike
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"Beware the man with only one gun; he probably knows how to shoot it." But, then, I don't know anyone like that. I just traded two rifles in today for a new one and another to replace the second is on the way.
Long,
Sako makes some fine rifles chambered in some excellent calibres. There are sure enough some excellent 7 mm calibres that you haven't mentioned yet, and while some may contend that they overlap, the appropriate response is "So what?"
Long,
Sako makes some fine rifles chambered in some excellent calibres. There are sure enough some excellent 7 mm calibres that you haven't mentioned yet, and while some may contend that they overlap, the appropriate response is "So what?"
DrMike
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If you close your eyes and say "Done!" real quick, you can do it. I belong to Rifles Anonymous, a support group for gun cranks. ("Hi, my name's Mike and I'm an addict.")
It grieves me to divest myself of any rifle, but I am replacing the calibres with some of the same calibre. I had a 270 WSM in a Model 70 Featherweight that gave me honest sub-MOA groups with several ammunitions (130 grain TSX, 130 grain AB, 130 grain Sierra SPT and 130 grain SWF Sciroccos). I was in the midst of doing some more load development, when one of the new Model 70s chambered in that calibre in. A trade was quickly worked out and after only a short while of having the other Featherweight, I now have another. Doubt that I could have sold to my wife owning two identical calibres.
The same thing happened with a Remington Classic chambered in 35 Whelen. I had only had the rifle for about five months and a few loads shooting 1 inch, when I bought a Hawkeye in 358. It shoots a vaariety of loads to 1/2 to 3/4 inch and I love it. When I found another Hawkeye chambered in 35 Whelen... well, I worked out another trade.
I already have several rifles chambered in 356 and in 358, so it was difficult to imagine filling my safe with duplicates, especially when the multiplication of rifles is straining the safe. I need a bigger one already.
Hopefully, the new rifles will shoot as well as the old, but then, that is why we handload, isn't it. The challenge is always before us.
It grieves me to divest myself of any rifle, but I am replacing the calibres with some of the same calibre. I had a 270 WSM in a Model 70 Featherweight that gave me honest sub-MOA groups with several ammunitions (130 grain TSX, 130 grain AB, 130 grain Sierra SPT and 130 grain SWF Sciroccos). I was in the midst of doing some more load development, when one of the new Model 70s chambered in that calibre in. A trade was quickly worked out and after only a short while of having the other Featherweight, I now have another. Doubt that I could have sold to my wife owning two identical calibres.
The same thing happened with a Remington Classic chambered in 35 Whelen. I had only had the rifle for about five months and a few loads shooting 1 inch, when I bought a Hawkeye in 358. It shoots a vaariety of loads to 1/2 to 3/4 inch and I love it. When I found another Hawkeye chambered in 35 Whelen... well, I worked out another trade.
I already have several rifles chambered in 356 and in 358, so it was difficult to imagine filling my safe with duplicates, especially when the multiplication of rifles is straining the safe. I need a bigger one already.
Hopefully, the new rifles will shoot as well as the old, but then, that is why we handload, isn't it. The challenge is always before us.
Powerstroke
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Long,
I'm a huge 7mm fan myself.... 7-08 & .280 in my safe as well.....
Which bullets are you using in your .280 ? Could double as the same bullet for the RUM and you don't have addtional expense ??? :lol:
Now myself, I'm attempting to apply a little logic to my next purchase.... :roll: I also have the .260......my lacking caliber to fill the numerical gap is a .270.... then I'd have a straight with the .280 @ the top ?? :twisted:
I'm a huge 7mm fan myself.... 7-08 & .280 in my safe as well.....
Which bullets are you using in your .280 ? Could double as the same bullet for the RUM and you don't have addtional expense ??? :lol:
Now myself, I'm attempting to apply a little logic to my next purchase.... :roll: I also have the .260......my lacking caliber to fill the numerical gap is a .270.... then I'd have a straight with the .280 @ the top ?? :twisted:
DrMike
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I've generally stuck to 140 grain bullets in my 280. I have excellent loads with Accubonds, Partitions, Ballistic Silver Tips, Swift A-Frames and Hornady InterLocks. All shoot exceptionally well. I recently found a fine load with 154 grain InterLocks. I know most of these work well on white tail and mule deer.
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I've generally stuck to 140 grain bullets in my 280. I have excellent loads with Accubonds, Partitions, Ballistic Silver Tips, Swift A-Frames and Hornady InterLocks. All shoot exceptionally well. I recently found a fine load with 154 grain InterLocks. I know most of these work well on white tail and mule deer.
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longwinters
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DrMike
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I would expect the 140 AccuBond to work well as an all around bullet. I currently have quite a few Partitions and Ballistic Silver Tips loaded. Perhaps I need to load up some ABs. The load that has worked well for me is 56 grains of RL19 and F210 primers. Groups with 57.5 grains of H4831 and Remington 9.5 primers gave an identical velocity and groups that would overlap. However, the standard deviation with the RL19 was significantly less. I am really focused currently on 54 grains of H100V and Remington 9.5 primers. Velocities are a good 200 fps greater.
I pretty well use Norma brass for my hunting loads. Did you form the Lapua from 30-06?
I pretty well use Norma brass for my hunting loads. Did you form the Lapua from 30-06?
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My load for the 280 Rem with a 140 gr PT or BT is 57.0 grs RL 19, R-P case and Federal GM210M primer.
Well under MOA accuracy in 2 different rifles.
JD338
Well under MOA accuracy in 2 different rifles.
JD338
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longwinters
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Yes I had some Lapua (before the prices went up) for my son's 30-06 and downsized them. But it also likes Win nickel 280 brass real well.
Funny. I have some Lapua 308 brass also and downsized for the 7m-08. The Sako does not seem to like them...perhaps too much pressure with the neck thickness.
Long
Funny. I have some Lapua 308 brass also and downsized for the 7m-08. The Sako does not seem to like them...perhaps too much pressure with the neck thickness.
Long
DrMike
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I've only recently used the Winchester nickel brass. I was pleasantly surprised by the quality. I still have a fair amount of Remington brass that I use for surveying new loads and quite a bit of Winchester brass also. I only recently purchase some of the Nosler brass, but I have not yet made up any loads with it. Norma claims to have made it, so I don't expect any great difference from what I have previously seen with Norma.
