CRF attraction?

What I would like to know is with all the nostalgia with which Winchester rifles has developed over the years why has it had so many different owners? It should be the number one selling rifle in the country and still based in New Haven or at least still owned by Winchester.
 
truck driver":1s9mfz6u said:
What I would like to know is with all the nostalgia with which Winchester rifles has developed over the years why has it had so many different owners? It should be the number one selling rifle in the country and still based in New Haven or at least still owned by Winchester.

I don't think it was for lack of wanting, but Pre64's were very expensive to produce compared to Remington's M700. Winchester went to the Post 64's which were actually pretty nice rifles as they tuned up their equipment. Later on, they reintroduced their Pre64 style Classic's, but the machinery was old and the QC wasn't where it needed to be. Once they cleaned that up with the move to SC, they are really some top notch rifles. The SC made rifles are as smooth as any Pre64 I have handled.
 
Though I haven't shot it yet ( don't shoot the Donor ) post 64 CRPF I do like it and it's about as smooth as most rifles . The one that has surprised me is the Howa made Vanguard. That action is very smooth.
 
Yeah, it's not like I don't have or don't like CRF rifles. They have always been a part of my shooting:

.375 on a Model 70 classic action:


So... I'm sure not running them down, I just apparently fail to see some huge advantage.

Regards, Guy
 
SJB358":18b1qocs said:
truck driver":18b1qocs said:
What I would like to know is with all the nostalgia with which Winchester rifles has developed over the years why has it had so many different owners? It should be the number one selling rifle in the country and still based in New Haven or at least still owned by Winchester.

I don't think it was for lack of wanting, but Pre64's were very expensive to produce compared to Remington's M700. Winchester went to the Post 64's which were actually pretty nice rifles as they tuned up their equipment. Later on, they reintroduced their Pre64 style Classic's, but the machinery was old and the QC wasn't where it needed to be. Once they cleaned that up with the move to SC, they are really some top notch rifles. The SC made rifles are as smooth as any Pre64 I have handled.

Scotty pretty well nailed it. Corporate management appears to have been a mess, much like Remington has become after being bought out.
 
Like Guy I'm really not knocking any of them since I own one of each and if I see something I want it wouldn't matter which style it was because I would still buy it.
 
Thanks Scotty. Well designed stock & good pad result in a very easy-shooting rifle too. I have been impressed.
 
Well it's just hard to beat perfect!! Paul Mauser made a pretty darn good action by which 116 years later every rifle is still compared too! Nuff said!
 
Guy Miner":2dtzmfil said:
Thanks Scotty. Well designed stock & good pad result in a very easy-shooting rifle too. I have been impressed.

That is an awesome 375. I think it sorta represents what a good 375 should look like for Africa. Throw it in a McMillan or similar for Alaska and you have the rifle that should handle everything.
 
I have both actions like all of you push fee & control feed new & old rifles but my favorite action is Model 70 XTR, why very smooth & the safety & trigger seem perfect to me. I do look when I'm at gun shows for a action as I would like to have a rifle built with it as the starting place. I also feel the reliably of either action is excellent unless you happen to get a lemon.
 
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