Damage Deer Down

Guy Miner

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Apr 6, 2006
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That happened fast! Late on Wednesday I got an invite for a mule deer damage control hunt near and on an orchard. The landowner works with a local veterans group and only wants veterans hunting on his property. He says that the veterans have treated his land and his dirt roads with respect. He has a lot of mule deer trying to eat the tender new growth on his young trees even though they're behind a pretty good deer fence. Also, they go browse on the mature trees too.

I checked my zero at the rifle range Thursday morning. All was well. Tight groups and about an inch and a half high at 100 yards. It's a Bergara Carbon Ridge that I've put in a Boyds laminated stock. It's got a sweet 3-15x Leupold. The 6.5 Creed handloads use VV N555 to push 140 grain Berger Elite Hunters to a bit over 2700 fps from the carbon wrapped 22" Bergara barrel. I've found that the rifle shoots great for three, or four shots then the barrel heats up a bit and the groups start broadening out. Okay, on a hunting rifle I can live with three tight shots time after time.

A buddy and I scouted the property Thursday afternoon. We saw plenty of mule deer. Hiked a lot on the ridges above the orchard. Steep and snow covered. I took quite a fall & slide. Fortunately I was able to steer my descent a bit and stopped when my boots hit a sturdy sagebrush. I slipped and fell a couple times getting back down to the dirt road, but nothing as dramatic as that. Had my good "mountain boots" on - pretty stiff Zamberlans with good tread. It was just steep and slick. A trekking pole and/or crampons would have helped. Somewhere in there my cell phone and I parted company... Not sure where - am sure that I'm not going back for it. LOL!

Next morning, my pard and I were out there before sunrise. We settled into position beneath a fair sized Ponderosa Pine. We saw deer here and there, but no solid shot opportunities. Then a few does started across our front at about 150 yards. They were heading away from us and got out to about 200 yards or so until one turned broadside. The 6.5 nudged my shoulder. She dropped instantly from a heart shot! But... her head remained up. I've seen game with their head up suddenly rise and run, so I popped her again for an instant kill. That shot went into the lungs. She obligingly slid quite a ways down the snowy slope, then stopped, still well above the dirt road. I scrambled up the steep, snow covered slope, on all fours much of the time, and got to her, checked that she was indeed dead - very much so. Gave her a little shove and down she went like a toboggan again! Only had to drag her a few yards through some brush to the road.

I re-learned a lot about steep snow-covered slopes on Thursday and Friday and made meat. She's hanging in my garage now and bound for the meat processor later.

I'm thankful for the unexpected opportunity to hunt with an old friend - He's in his late 70's, I'm in my late 60's, both of us veterans. We were grumbling about not being as strong as we used to be... It was pretty funny. No photos at this point, the squirrels are up there chewing on my cell phone someplace! My buddy took a few photos but he was Navy, so he's having some trouble figuring out how to get them to me... LOL! I may need to grab his cell phone and email them to me myself...

The little 6.5 Creed did well. Damage to her heart and lungs was considerable. This is the first game I've taken with that easy-shooting rifle. It's just fine!

Regards, Guy
 
Great story Guy. Glad you got to experience crop damage deer hunting. We do ours in the summer, usually starting the 3rd week of July until Labor Day.
I too am a believer in the little 6.5 Creedmoor. Sue has hammered a few with the 129 gr ABLR out to around 300 yards with DRT results.
Well done buddy.

JD338
 
Awesome story guy! I enjoyed reading that!

Sorry to hear about your Navy friend, but I guess we all can’t be Marines :ROFLMAO:

Kidding. Kidding….
My ol' buddy is pretty much an aging badass... can I say that on this forum?

Vietnam veteran, he never claims to be a Navy SEAL, he was part of their support team, handling the boats, making sure the maintenance was carried out. Has some pretty intense war stories 'cause he sure got in some tight spots over there. Then came home and had a long career in law enforcement - which is how we met quite a while ago. Big ol' fellow, still tall & strong, just moving a lot slower these days. I've always had a huge respect for him.

Guy
 
Outstanding Guy! Glad you could both get out! Seems that once we reach a certain point the value is the opportunity and the people you spend it with huh?! Grandpa would always say when the fish weren't biting, "Well, we had us an outing anyway...." CL
 
Good job with that Creedmoor. How did those Elite Hunters do? Just curious.

This is actually my fifth mule deer with the Bergers. Three with the 115 grain VLD back in 2008/2009. Then a long gap as I switched to Ballistic Tips almost exclusively for 25 and 30 cal. Then in 2021 I took a fat 3x3 muley at 250 yards with a 180 gr Berger Elite Hunter from my 30-06, then this one with the 140 Elite Hunter. Every doggone one of those deer dropped instantly. A couple required a finishing shot, but never moved after the first hit.

First shot on this one took off about 1/3 of her heart and dropped her instantly but somehow she was still alive. So I shot her again, taking the lungs. That finished her.

I've shot mule deer with them through the ribs, like with this one. Destroys some rib meat but that's all. I've shot one buck through the shoulder blade with a little 115 gr Berger VLD. Took out both lungs and broke the off-side shoulder blade as well. They tend to penetrate a few inches, then once inside the chest cavity they expand and even fragment rapidly.

They're controversial, I get that. But I've had good results on deer with them. Disclaimer, I was given the bullets to try, and to report on their performance. That said, I call 'em the way it happens.

Regards, Guy
 
Congratulations on your crop damage hunt and with an old friend to boot. Bummer on losing the phone. Hopefully you will get the pictures retrieved from your friend's phone.
 
One of the guys I hunt with for the last 50 years, finds arrowheads or cell phones every year it seems. I can understand the arrowheads given the area we typically hunt but cell phones, how can there be that many lost cell phones. I should send him up to see Guy.
Interesting Don. Just out of curiosity, does he kill many deer? 🤔 🤣

JD338
 
Great story and happy to hear you weren't injured in your hill side slip and slide.
It can be very scary at our age when we slip and start sliding down hills out of control.
10 years ago I had a similar experience hunting Elk but there was no snow on the ground. The ground just gave out under my feet as I was standing looking where I was going to go, I was sliding backwards down the mountain side with nothing close to grab a hold of, had to dig the butt of my rifle into the ground to stop my slide on my belly. Glad the stock was synthetic and not Walnut but at the time it didn't matter. I was very careful where I walked after that.
I was 65 at that time and recovering from knee surgery.
 
Awesome story Guy! A doe hunt to me is one of the most fun hunts one can engage in. Lots of opportunities, very little pressure from other hunters, and the trophy is delicious meat.

I enjoy the Marines/Navy rivalry. Although I did not serve I was raised around all kinds of men who did.

Doc is a close family friend. In fact he was my bus driver in grade school. He was in the Navy SEALS when they were called UDT in Vietnam. Although Doc is 80, he still gets out and hunts every year for Mule Deer and Elk. He and some of his closest family and friends (many of whom are Navy Vets) hunt every year.

About 20 years ago a neighbor’s son, a fellow just younger than me, had been discharged from the Marines for some sort of medical reason. One night he got a little too deep into the Who-hit-John and drove up to Doc’s house. Outside of Doc’s shop on the flagpole flies the Stars and Stripes and underneath of it flies the Navy flag. Neighbor boy decided as a prank to replace the Navy flag with his Marine flag, and then affix the Navy flag upside down under his Marine flag on the pole.

After admiring his handy work he sped off, fearing Doc might catch him. About a mile down the road, Neighbor boy (still tipsy) wrecked his Toyota pickup down off an embankment. Luckily he was liquid enough to survive with only a few cuts, bumps and bruises. With no one else close by to ask for help, he walked back to Doc’s house for aid.

Doc, who had heard the gravel rooster-tailing from his driveway a few minutes ago, was awake and waiting when Neighbor boy arrived. Doc had him to attention and “un-fornicating” the flagpole directly. He may have also mentioned that should Neighbor boy allow the Navy colors to touch the ground that he (Doc) would kick Neighbor boy in the @&$! (female anatomy) and wear him like a slipper for the rest of his born days. 😂😂

After straightening out the flagpole, Doc drove him down to the scene of the wreck and yanked his pickup out of the crash site. Surprisingly enough that Toyota started and ran, and Neighbor boy limped it home.

Moral of the story? Don’t mess with Doc, he will have your hide and no matter what, there will always be a rivalry between the Marines and the Navy.
 
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