E-tips.....educate me

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May 15, 2009
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Never used them. Never really had any desire to use a non-lead core bullet. The new offering in .338 has me thinking in might be one hell of a hunting load in my .338 Lapua that wouldn't explode and ruin a ton of meat and would penetrate for days!

So, what do I need to know about these mono bullets? Seating depth? Hard to develop accurate loads?

Also, any idea what kind of velocity I might expect out of my Lapua? I have N-570, 7828ssc, H4831sc, retumbo, H1000, H4350 and a few others but I'm guessing these are the likely candidates.
 
I like the E-Tips, using quite a few in a growing number of cartridges. I've had excellent performance from them, downing moose, elk, mule deer and whitetail. They have put a smile on my face each time I've used them on game. I'm not on my work computer at home, so I can't give you an estimate of velocities to expect from your Lapua. It is sufficient to note that it will give you at least what you would anticipate with an AccuBond or a Partition.
 
I've shot a few through my .243. Accuracy ranges from not good to real good depending on the load. I haven't shot any one hole groups with them, but I have seen some. I moly coat them to reduce pressure. Seems to work because I use regular load data without issue. Nosler says to use mid loads as max.
 
That 225 was pretty interesting for sure. I have sworn to try a couple of the ETips soon. I picked up a bag of the 150 ET's for the 7mm in hopes of trying them in something, and the 225 ETip does look very good with the .600+ BC. That would be a really awesome bullet even outta my 338 Win Mag if I could get the same 2900 out of them I get with 225 PT's. Even 2850 would work just fine with the added BC.
 
90 gr. E-tip in my son's 6mm Remington has taken deer, antelope, and one elk at 350 yards. It has worked very well. I like that bullet and what I saw in my water jug tests from 25-500 yards.
 
I only load them in my .280 (150 grain) and they are very accurate. I haven't taken any game with them though.
 
Just to piggy back on this thread.....




Has anyone tried to find out what the lowest velocity for expansion is..... My only concern with ANY monometal.
 
That's a nice set up and you're very well stocked. Heck you're stocked better than my local Gander Mountain and quite a few other shops for that matter.
 
FOTIS":1nfold02 said:
Just to piggy back on this thread.....




Has anyone tried to find out what the lowest velocity for expansion is..... My only concern with ANY monometal.

Thanks for asking that Fotis!
 
I certainly don't like the way they look on Nosler's e-tip page at 1800fps. 2500fps looks good though, so I would try to keep impact velocity at about 2200fps minimum (For my taste)just my guess from extrapolating what they are showing.
 
FOTIS":3bsupo5d said:
Just to piggy back on this thread.....




Has anyone tried to find out what the lowest velocity for expansion is..... My only concern with ANY monometal.

Same here. I'd think keeping them above 2200 would make them work as advertised.

I'd like to do some testing this year with them, at longer distances. I have the tests worked out in my head, so we shall if I can pull it off..
 
muleman":1osqhn2q said:
FOTIS":1osqhn2q said:
Just to piggy back on this thread.....




Has anyone tried to find out what the lowest velocity for expansion is..... My only concern with ANY monometal.

Thanks for asking that Fotis!
Go to this site and take a peak. I have recovered the E-tips as far out as 400 yards in the 6mm with the 90 gr. E-tip. I have not had a chance yet to get one at 500. This will give you some idea at least. It expanded and penetrated very well and if you look at the bullets from the top, both the Partition and the E-tip expanded nicely. The E-tip expanded to .405 so it expanded 1.66 times the original 243 diameter.

viewtopic.php?f=45&t=19629
 
Though an E-Tip may not expand as much as a lead core bullet, the wound channel from the deep penetration will likely be larger than the wound channel from other bullets. This would indicate higher probability of disruption of essential physical systems. In short, they kill quite effectively, even at what we imagine to be velocities too low to ensure full expansion.
 
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