Federal fusion?

Over the years I’ve purchased Fusion overruns from RMR. I have them in 22 , 257 , and 7mm. They are the same as the Speer Gold Dots. They’ve all shot exceptional. Last ones I’ve shot were the 65gr in my 224 Wby.
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Ralt71 said:
My experience with the fusion line up has been all positive, both the regular line and the tipped line. I would not hesitate to try them in anything I shoot today and have done a few reloads with them as a component. The bang for the buck certainly is in your favor with these.
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I forget about you being close to me , and knowing the Grice family . maybe you knew Dave . when standing at the front register , look up at the left corner of the door . by where the primers are kept . there was a target or three hanging there . these are from the Dave I mention . Dave has been gone probably 8 or 10 years now .
 
highoctane said:
Here's a video from a guy that test different bullets. I watch him from time to time.

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So im really curious about how so many reviews iv seen where people have said thay had small entry and exit wounds . Why would or what would cause that ? Maby the bullet needs certain speed to open ?
 
cjmac said:
So im really curious about how so many reviews iv seen where people have said thay had small entry and exit wounds . Why would or what would cause that ? Maby the bullet needs certain speed to open ?
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I can't answer that question.

I also know that ballistic gel isn't the same as animal tissue and bone however, it does give us a predictable medium of expected expansion, now whether or not we get that expected expansion is another question
 
This is true . I wonder if its actually expanding like it should be doing the damage internally from the shock and just going through the other side.
I loaded some 150 grain Winchester power points last year my wife double long shot a doe at about 100 yd exit wound was only about the size of a nickel but internals were completely gone
 
cjmac said:
So im really curious about how so many reviews iv seen where people have said thay had small entry and exit wounds . Why would or what would cause that ? Maby the bullet needs certain speed to open ?
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When I have used them, the exit wounds have NOT been small.
Entry wounds are caliber sized, as expected with almost any bullet.

Internet reports should always be taken with a large grain of salt. ;)
Give the Fusions a try.
 
Dr. Vette said:
When I have used them, the exit wounds have NOT been small.
Entry wounds are caliber sized, as expected with almost any bullet.

Internet reports should always be taken with a large grain of salt. ;)
Give the Fusions a try.
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Wow good to hear . Yeah i try not to take them to seriously lol I have sst I want to try also
 
Dr. Vette said:
When I have used them, the exit wounds have NOT been small.
Entry wounds are caliber sized, as expected with almost any bullet.

Internet reports should always be taken with a large grain of salt. ;)
Give the Fusions a try.
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I think a lot of internet turbulence is from ….
My buddy’s cousin’s nephews neighbor knows a guy at the club who’s second cousin’s friend at the gun shop heard a story about….

That’s how the Nosler BTstarted out.

JD338
 
JD338 said:
I think a lot of internet turbulence is from ….
My buddy’s cousin’s nephews neighbor knows a guy at the club who’s second cousin’s friend at the gun shop heard a story about….

That’s how the Nosler BTstarted out.

JD338
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I agree. Im sure theres 1 story thats changed about 20 times before being put in a online fourm ..
I will say back when the Nosler ballistic tip first came out I think they were a lot softer
 
cjmac said:
Wow good to hear . Yeah i try not to take them to seriously lol I have sst I want to try also
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The SST is one of my favorite bullets. The early years of the SST are kinda like the early years of the Nosler Ballistic Tip, cussed, discussed and often maligned.

However, just like Nosler, Hornady made some slight adjustments to the SST and its a really great bullet today.

As with any cup and core style bullet they do have a performance window to be used in and when used outside this window very bad things happen, but as with most things its easier to blame the bullet that the loose nut behind the trigger
 
cjmac said:
So im really curious about how so many reviews iv seen where people have said thay had small entry and exit wounds . Why would or what would cause that ? Maby the bullet needs certain speed to open ?
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Years back I loaded some 120gr Fusion over IMR4350 for my brother’s 25-06 and I can say for sure they make a hole in deer.
 
cjmac said:
So im really curious about how so many reviews iv seen where people have said thay had small entry and exit wounds . Why would or what would cause that ? Maby the bullet needs certain speed to open ?
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keep in mind the animal hide is elastic . it can stretch and shrink back to normal . "IF" the bullet , expanded , and held together , it could look like a small entry , and exit . "IF" the bullet came apart , it would look a lot more damaging , with a big gaping exit hole .
 
highoctane said:
The SST is one of my favorite bullets. The early years of the SST are kinda like the early years of the Nosler Ballistic Tip, cussed, discussed and often maligned.

However, just like Nosler, Hornady made some slight adjustments to the SST and its a really great bullet today.

As with any cup and core style bullet they do have a performance window to be used in and when used outside this window very bad things happen, but as with most things its easier to blame the bullet that the loose nut behind the trigger
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I have a hundred of the 150gr sst im gonna try . Was debating if I should get a small base die or not . The load data is ehat im having a hard time deciding on . Whether or not if I want to use Hornady load data or someone else's. I want to use varget
 
jimbires said:
keep in mind the animal hide is elastic . it can stretch and shrink back to normal . "IF" the bullet , expanded , and held together , it could look like a small entry , and exit . "IF" the bullet came apart , it would look a lot more damaging , with a big gaping exit hole .
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Yeah that is true . Could ve like the barns or burger bullet does. lot of international shock but leaves small holes .
 
Don’t look at the holes in the skin, open the animals and visualize what the bullet hit and what damage it caused.
Hunters that no longer gut those animals are missing this part of the equation-what did the bullet hit and do?!
There are several common bulet review guys on YouTube. The vortex guys and Barnes guys do a nice job. Backfire seems like a nerdy dork but her does text a lot of “stuff.” Banana ballistics IS a nerdy dork but again he tests a lot of stuff. There are others of course but I find most of them hard to
Watch unless I am very interested in the product at hand. Ron Spomer is still one of my favorites-
My point is that there are some really good bullet tests available on YouTube, and you can learn something even from the dorks. The fusion always tests well from what I have watched
 
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So, I found a pic from the last deer I took w/ a 140g Fusion. My shot went through the heart and created an exit found in the pic. The off-side hide had a hole not quite as large, but standard for this bullet (which is larger than anything else I have used). Again, the expansion never failed and this bullet was quite accurate in my rifle.

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