Hard Work Does Pay Off - 338Win load work continued

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I am truly sorry for having to start another thread on my load work for the 338Win Mag but Longranger has stolen my earlier thread.

I have been at the bench 4 straight days now with the 338Win Mag and my shoulder is beginning to notice the 338Win Mag that is banging on it :shock: :lol: :lol:

Something was nagging me concerning the 210gr Partition and not being able to find a combination that would work in my rifle. Now my rifle is a Ruger Mk II out of the box, no bedding or trigger work, not a bench gun for sure, so I was not expecting much but did want hunting accuracy. It is very picky when it comes to the 210gr Partition but I just could not stop until I at least knew it was hopeless and had tried every option I could imagine.

So I went back to an old Lyman load book and notice they were getting accuracy with Rem 9 1/2M primers and with the lighter bullets it was the 4350 class. So I loaded up IMR4350 using 74.5grs and H4350 with 73.5grs (these need to be worked up to). IMR4350 gave 2972fps which was outstanding but accuracy was not there just like before. So I though great, here I am and it is not getting any better.

But with H4350 I had a 7/8" group (might have been tighter but recoil was a factor being the last group after four days of abuse :)) and it was moving at 2936fps which also good velocity. Yes, I finally have a hunting load with the bullet I wanted to use. Here is a picture of the group, chrony and the brass.

Three shot group 210gr Par, Rem brass, Rem 9 1/2M primer, 73.5grs H4350
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Load work that led up to this initial post has been posted in the following posts for those who would like it kind of all together. Thank You, bullet :)
 
That's some great shooting Bullet! :grin: Wish you all the best.
 
longranger":38ga873h said:
That's some great shooting Bullet! :grin: Wish you all the best.

Thank you longranger and I hope the best for you also.
 
Yo... I'l tell you one thing... you got my intrerest peaked, and all others who contributed. :eek:

I wish I could live out west.
 
250gr Nosler AccuBond
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Started my load work with Nosler bullets today and only tried the 210gr Partition using three powders IMR4350, H4350, IMR7828. Best accuracy for the day was no better than 2 1/2" group and best velocity was 2936fps.

Will be adjusting OAL and also using some RL-19 that I have not used yet. If the RL-19 and adjusting OAL on the H4350 load does not improve accuracy of the 210gr I will be focusing on the other Nosler bullets I have.

I will be testing tomorrow the 200gr AccuBond, 250gr AccuBond and 250gr Partition.
 
Well, the process continues with some good new today and some not so good news.

First the 200gr Accubonds shot good and I got good velocities. Using only IMR4350 and H4350 today with the 200gr AccuBond I had the following results.

200gr AccuBond, Remington Brass, 215 Fed primers, 75grs IMR4350, .879" group moving at 3019fps on average.
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200gr AccuBond, Remington Brass, 215 Fed primers, 74grs H4350, 1 1/2" group moving at 2989fps on average.
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250gr Accubonds were not accurate and velocity was only 2601fps and 250gr Partitions shot a little better and velocity was only 2606fps using for both bullets H4831sc.
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I will have to wait for my new brass to get here to continue my work but I am going to use the 200gr AccuBond on deer instead of the 215gr Sierra and using RL-19 and RL-17 (if I can get some 17) might increase velocities. If it does and accuracy stays the same or improves the 200gr AccuBond is a player. Also, will continue to work with 210gr Partition using RL-19.
 
This morning was quit a revelation to say the least. I tried RL-19 and H4350 in a head to head battle in the lighter bullets 200gr AccuBond, 210gr Partition and 215gr Sierra SBT.

First - the CCI250 primers using the above powders and Rem New Brass gave more velocity and better accuracy than the 215 Fed primers in my Ruger Mk II 338Win Mag with a 24" barrel using the same powders, bullets and brass.

Second - the two best preforming bullets in my Ruger were in this order - the 200gr AccuBond with an COL of 3.407" giving a group size of .685" moving at 3047fps on average in front of H4350 using Remingtion New Brass and CCI250 primers. The 215gr Sierra SBT with an COL of 3.400" giving a group size of .789" moving at 2972fps on average in front of H4350 using Rem New Brass and CCI250 primers.

Third - with the 210gr Partition I did not get good accuracy and RL-19 with a compressed charge only gave me 2879fps where as H4350 gave me 2948fps with a compressed charge and neither powder gave an accurate group but the H4350 load was more accurate with the CCI250 primer than with the Fed 215 primer.

Fourth - the 250gr AccuBond with a max charge of RL-22 only gave 2678fps and accuracy was not better with this bullet than the last time I tried it with H4831. The 250gr Partition is more accurate and gave similar velocities.

I need to try and will after my hunt in Missouri on white tail, the 225gr AccuBond and Partition. The 200gr AccuBond will be the bullet I will be using in Missouri. At 3047fps what ever it hits it will rock and shake it for sure.

After three days in a row of shooting the 338Win Mag I think I will give my shoulder a rest :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
I can't stand it!!!!!!!!!!!! I just can't figure out why I can't get the 210gr Partitions to shoot. So I went back to and old combination:

210gr Par
Rem brass
Rem 9 1/2M primers
74.5grs of IMR4350
COL 3.303"

210gr Par
Rem Brass
Rem 9 1/2M primers
73.5 of H4350
COL 3.303"

Got to give it one more try tomorrow morning just to see. I think this is an addiction, what do you all think :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

The results of this work can be found on the initial post of this thread - Thank you :)
 
Bullet. Neither Dad nor I could ever get the 210 Partitions to shoot in our guns either. We switched to the 200gr BT's when they can out, and never looked back. Dad's killed at least 15 elk with the 200 BT's and they are absolutely devistating. Maybe someday when he runs out of the BT's I'll get him switched over to the AB's.
 
Antelope_Sniper":3qqnyhf1 said:
Bullet. Neither Dad nor I could ever get the 210 Partitions to shoot in our guns either. We switched to the 200gr BT's when they can out, and never looked back. Dad's killed at least 15 elk with the 200 BT's and they are absolutely devistating. Maybe someday when he runs out of the BT's I'll get him switched over to the AB's.

I wish Nosler still made the BT for the 338Win Mag for deer and such game. The AccuBond is a hard bullet that does not seem to grab the lands as well as the BT did and therefore hard to have consistency from group to group in some rifles.

I am glad I got the 210gr to shoot, I weighed each bullet and made sure they weighed the same as the others I would use for the group. I think the 210gr Patition will be a consistent killer on all size game I shoot with it but it does not have the BC of the BT's and AB's

I really know when the game gets hit with the 210gr Partition it will be devastated for sure.
 
I shot my first bear with a 210 PT they are darn good bullets, You'll love them.

The bullet for me is the 225 AB, I have been doing some work with some 225 AB seconds and couldn't get them to shoot. A friend of mine tried some in his RUM with a load that shoots firsts very well and they opened up about an inch more than his other load. I think that the canaluer on these bullets is making them shoot poorly. I'll try some firsts and see what I can get. Its hard to beat the .550 BC and 2900 FPS.

So I got some 200 ET shooting good for this season to hold me over until I get more time.
 
jmad_81":159tps8b said:
I shot my first bear with a 210 PT they are darn good bullets, You'll love them.

The bullet for me is the 225 AB, I have been doing some work with some 225 AB seconds and couldn't get them to shoot. A friend of mine tried some in his RUM with a load that shoots firsts very well and they opened up about an inch more than his other load. I think that the canaluer on these bullets is making them shoot poorly. I'll try some firsts and see what I can get. Its hard to beat the .550 BC and 2900 FPS.

So I got some 200 ET shooting good for this season to hold me over until I get more time.

You got 200gr E-Tips to shoot well in a 338Win Mag? If you did I am interested in your load info.
 
Congrats sir!

as for this............


bullet":38yyssuv said:
I am truly sorry for having to start another thread on my load work for the 338Win Mag but Longranger has stolen my earlier thread.


I would not worry about it anymore.
 
bullet,

Are you going to teat one of those bullets in some water jugs? :lol:

JD338
 
JD338":3bso3pid said:
bullet,

Are you going to teat one of those bullets in some water jugs? :lol:

JD338

Absolutely, my wife has been so sweet to save me gallon water jugs with lids that screw on tight. Just before I go on my hunt I will do my final sight-in and send one of those bullets into a line of water jugs. :) Arizona gallon tea jugs, I guess you get the idea I like Arizona.
 
POP":1na5g5g3 said:
Congrats sir!

as for this............


bullet":1na5g5g3 said:
I am truly sorry for having to start another thread on my load work for the 338Win Mag but Longranger has stolen my earlier thread.


I would not worry about it anymore.

That means he was vanished?
 
bullet said:
250gr Nosler AccuBond
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bullet congrats on finding a load that works great in your rifle! Now that I have read both threads I NEED to go and buy me a 338 win mag. I just need a awesome background for my computer to remind me to get a 338 win mag, Do you mind if I borrow the pic up above? :lol:
 
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