Help with loads for 6.5x55

[35 Whelen]

Jim,
Last thing on earth, I ever though was that you were not truthful, so if that is the way you read that, I APPOLGIZE right now on that. I respect your opinions on here completely.........
However I was questioning how a 7mm could get the same weight bullet going faster ,assuming same case capacity? I think Dr Mike & Scotty, just explained how that could happen. :wink:
Again Jim, sorry if that came across wrong, it was never your figures of the 708 I doubted, it was the figures of the 6.5 velocity, that I was wondering about. :|
One thing I have NO doubt about is that you and Scotty have perhaps forgotten more about reloading than my knowledge of it! Sure hope that Calarifys all that. :|

GERRY,
I Forgot to respond to the overall length question, as I was getting into hot water by accident with Jim!
That picture was to get Scotty going as that won't fit into
Any gun!!! :lol:

 

[SJB358]

Here are a few of my loads. I think they are around 3.150" or so....



That 108 Lapua Scenar is on the right. It is a long pill.





It has some good BC on it for a 108 grain bullet..

 

[jimbires]

E , no need to apologize . I've taken things out of context . I've opened my mouth and inserted my foot . I'm sorry for the ruckus . Jim

 

[Blkram]

SJB358,

Curious as to what the bullet to the right in the first photo is? I do not recognize it. Looks very interesting.

 

[SJB358]

It's a 108 Scenar.

 

[Blkram]

Sorry, my fault...I meant the one on the left!

Brain thinking one thing, fingers typing another (type-ical dislexia kicking in -pun intended! LOL)

 

[SJB358]

155 Lapua Mega. Pretty neat bullet. Was decently accurate right outta the gate.

 

[DrMike]

155 Lapua Mega. Pretty neat bullet. Was decently accurate right outta the gate.

Pssst. Scotty, be gentle with Gil. English isn't his native language.

 

[Blkram]

Thanks Scotty!

Although English may not be my native tongue...I can't speak that either! LOL

 

[SJB358]

155 Lapua Mega. Pretty neat bullet. Was decently accurate right outta the gate.

Pssst. Scotty, be gentle with Gil. English isn't his native language.

No worries, I still take directions referred to Marine left or Marine right.... I still never go the correct way but I always liked hearing "your other left Marine" :lol:

 

[Blkram]

Have you taken any game with that Mega bullet yet?

That looks like a great bullet for moose, elk and bears out of the Swede, in the dark timber. Thinking it would be almost perfect out of a Ruger No. 1 RSI! That frontal area would really impart some energy for expansion, while that long shank would provide awesome penetration!

 

[gerry]

Gil, I have loaded up some of those 155 gr Mega bullets in my 264 Win Mag but haven't shot any game with them yet. I don't know how they will perform with the extra 300-400 fps but know it has a great reputation at typical 6.5x55 speeds. Once I get out over 100 yards though it will have slowed enough not to worry about coming apart.

 

[35 Whelen]

Ok some advice here from those of you firmilar with Bergers, how far off the lands should I be with these
Bullets???? Getting ready to leave the 525 yd target headed
Out to 1000 yds and a milk jug, lol

 

[jimbires]

Ok some advice here from those of you firmilar with Bergers, how far off the lands should I be with these
Bullets???? Getting ready to leave the 525 yd target headed
Out to 1000 yds and a milk jug, lol

my 7-08 with the 140 VLD's is in the lands . sometimes it will stick a bullet in the bbl when unloading , this is a BIG PITA . I am jumping the 300 gr bullets in my 338 . I'd have to look at my notes for the jump though .. the 338 bullets didn't seem to be as fussy on seating as the 7mm bullets did . do a seating test by using the same powder charge and making bullets with jumps at .010 , .040 , .080 , .120 to see what shoots best for you . I usually do the seating test first at mininum powder charge . then I work the powder charge .
here is a link to berger talking about this.
http://www.bergerbullets.com/getting-th ... our-rifle/

 

[DrMike]

Ok some advice here from those of you firmilar with Bergers, how far off the lands should I be with these
Bullets???? Getting ready to leave the 525 yd target headed
Out to 1000 yds and a milk jug, lol

Being cap-and-core bullets, Bergers seem to give the best accuracy when loaded close to the lands. Then thousandths to twenty thousandths appears to be a common point to avoid sticking in the lands and yet giving good accuracy.

 

[SJB358]

Have you taken any game with that Mega bullet yet?

That looks like a great bullet for moose, elk and bears out of the Swede, in the dark timber. Thinking it would be almost perfect out of a Ruger No. 1 RSI! That frontal area would really impart some energy for expansion, while that long shank would provide awesome penetration!

I haven't taken any animals with them. Dewey or one of the other fellas here sent them to me to try and accuracy was pretty good, but I didn't have a bunch to work with. I'd like to run a couple in the jugs to just get an idea of how they work..

I REALLY wanna try that 160 Woodleigh out of my 264 though. I think that would be pretty wicked as well.

 

[35 Whelen]

Ok thanks to all
Headed to the bench now.
E

 

[SJB358]

Remember, start low with them..

Cartridge : 6.5 x 55 Swedish
Bullet : .264, 140, Berger Hunt VLD Hunt #26504
Useable Case Capaci: 51.963 grain H2O = 3.374 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.150 inch = 80.01 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-26

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.971% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-09.7 90 46.50 2691 2250 40265 10306 99.5 1.502
-08.7 91 47.00 2721 2302 41690 10377 99.7 1.478
-07.8 92 47.50 2751 2353 43171 10441 99.8 1.454
-06.8 93 48.00 2781 2405 44709 10499 99.9 1.431
-05.8 94 48.50 2812 2457 46312 10549 100.0 1.408
-04.9 95 49.00 2841 2510 47979 10593 100.0 1.386
-03.9 96 49.50 2871 2563 49713 10632 100.0 1.363
-02.9 97 50.00 2901 2616 51519 10670 100.0 1.342
-01.9 98 50.50 2930 2669 53399 10707 100.0 1.320
-01.0 99 51.00 2960 2723 55360 10744 100.0 1.300 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 100 51.50 2989 2777 57403 10779 100.0 1.279 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 101 52.00 3018 2831 59534 10814 100.0 1.259 ! Near Maximum !
+01.9 102 52.50 3047 2886 61752 10847 100.0 1.239 ! Near Maximum !
+02.9 103 53.00 3076 2941 64074 10879 100.0 1.220 ! Near Maximum !
+03.9 104 53.50 3104 2996 66494 10911 100.0 1.201 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.9 105 54.00 3133 3052 69015 10941 100.0 1.182 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 100 51.50 3115 3017 72752 10295 100.0 1.171 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 100 51.50 2791 2421 44473 11196 98.2 1.423

 

[35 Whelen]

Probably just try 50 grs and .010 off the lands.
See what that Sako barrel thinks of em

 

[Blkram]

Good luck E! Looking forward to your results