Hunting rifle

[hardcorehunter5]

So I have a friend who is going to turn my m700 270win into a 280ai and I have a 308 in addition that is my primary hunting rifle. With all the ammo shortages i have been thinking about going away from it to something else and like the idea of reducing the amount of different cartridges I reload for. So the question is do I sell the 308 and parle the money to a 270, which I already load for in my wife's rifle or should I go a different route. My only stipulations are its left hand and factory chambered in a typical deer cartridge..

-Hardcore

 

[Rigbymauser]

Interesting..but why?. If one was to do an imp. cartridge why not the .270Imp instead?. Plenty of premium bullets in .277 from 90-180grain. What would become the final outcome in the matter of .277 vs .284"?. Who can feel the difference?. The animals...the paperbears?.
If the barrel is accurate enough I would leave as it is and make an .270Imp or WSM.
Just my nickel. Happy Easter :wink:

 

[hardcorehunter5]

Why.. Custom barrel and action blueprinting for no cost and i get near 7rm ballistics.... The benefits are as near a great improvement with a 270ai, on paper anyhow. Plus the bc on a 284 bullet is far greater then 277

-hardcorehunter

 

[DrMike]

The stipulation that whatever you do be available as a factory chambered cartridge rules out more esoteric cartridges. I suppose I look at the issue in the knowledge that shortages of components will not continue forever. If you are going to rechamber, make it something that you enjoy and which you will find intriguing. Personally, I enjoy having a rifle chambered in something that is less common. However, there is nothing wrong with either the 270 Win or the .308. In the long run, I would imagine that components for either of these will be available on a more consistent basis than cases needed for other cartridges. It seems that you really can't miss with either plan.

 

[FOTIS]

Keep both and you will be fine~

 

[Guest]

I cannot imagine you'll have more trouble finding 308Win components versus anything else on the planet. If I were going to dump something out of the 270Win, 280AI, or 308Win, it'd be the 280AI, which you've clearly indicated you plan to keep. Beyond that, consolidating to a single round would make more sense if you sold your wife's 270Win and moved her to the 308Win, unless you're thinking you'll use the same powder for the 270 and 280, which is a possibility. It won't be ideal, but it's a possibility.

I'd still keep the 308Win out of the three, were I concerned about permanent availability of components.

 

[SJB358]

I am with Rigbymauser, why not do a 270 Ackley, nothing against the 280 at all, but if the 280 makes those kinda gains, the 270 will do just as well, and heck, it is a little different, cases will always be easy to come by and you will always find 270 Winchester ammo everywhere, in case you need them.

Also, there might not be as many GREAT BC'ed .277" bullets, Nosler does have a great 140 AB and the new 150 ABLR coming pretty quick. Plus, there are other good, high BC'ed bullets out there that make the 270 better than ever.

If your going through the trouble of rebarreling, and like what a 270 Win does for you now, no reason to not amp it up a little with the Improving..

But, then like others, I am the odd ball and think the .277 cartridges we have are pretty good and compete pretty well against the 284's in hunting situations.

 

[JD338]

The 280 AI has a lot of cool factor going for it and is more popular now than ever before. Fire forming cases from 280 Rem is a snap and case life is excellent, even with R-P brass.

Once you get past the initial batch of fire forming cases, you are going to be ready for the long haul.

JD338

 

[truck driver]

Dosen't Nosler already make custom 280 AI brass? besides being easily made from any 06 base brass.

 

[hardcorehunter5]

I once thought 308 components would be availible too but it has been just the opposite. Can pretty much 277 bullets anywhere but not the case with 165gr .308. The nosler brass is for the saami verison, so fireforming is what ill be doing. And the 284 bullet has much better bc the 277 and Im not building a rifle on the hope the AccuBond lr will be out on shelves soon

 

[SJB358]

I once thought 308 components would be availible too but it has been just the opposite. Can pretty much 277 bullets anywhere but not the case with 165gr .308. The nosler brass is for the saami verison, so fireforming is what ill be doing. And the 284 bullet has much better bc the 277 and Im not building a rifle on the hope the AccuBond lr will be out on shelves soon

Well, I guess you answered your own question then. Drive on, should be a sweet build when your all through with it.

 

[sask boy]

You are right about 280AI brass. I have picked up a box of Nosler already and I am saving up for another as it almost $100.00 with tax in :evil:. I am still waiting on my action & stock but have all the other components for the build :mrgreen:

Blessings,
Dan

 

[Razorbacker]

You are right about 280AI brass. I have picked up a box of Nosler already and I am saving up for another as it almost $100.00 with tax in :evil:. I am still waiting on my action & stock but have all the other components for the build :mrgreen:

Blessings,
Dan

Wait. $100 bucks for just unprimed brass? For how many?
I was thinking about a Kimber in.280AI but if the brass is that expensive I'll have to rethink that

 

[DrMike]

You can always fireform Remington or Winchester 280 Rem. brass. That will save quite a bit. Also, bear in mind that Dan is quoting Canadian prices. When goods cross the border, the prices skyrocket.

 

[Razorbacker]

You can always fireform Remington or Winchester 280 Rem. brass. That will save quite a bit. Also, bear in mind that Dan is quoting Canadian prices. When goods cross the border, the prices skyrocket.

Ah, okay, thanks, I'm new here need to look at locations I guess. I was just thinking about that rifle for my wife for Western hunting. Seems like what with the recent panic one needs to look at all aspects of components before a major purchase.

 

[DrMike]

Gotcha! Components are spotty at best at this present moment. Nevertheless, I would think there is always a pretty good supply of 270, 280 or 30-06, and for a 280AI, any of these cases can be necked up (or down) and fire formed. Also, check SPS (http://shootersproshop.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=73_83) to see if any 280AI brass is showing up.

 

[Horsethief]

I would hold onto the 308 Win. It is an established cartridge. Getting the 280 AI isn't a stretch for components. The brass can be made from 280 Rem, as has been stated.

I know that this shortage and the way its going is making for a long, long time for a reloader / shooter, but the last time we went through this it took about a year for the primer manufacturers to catch up to demand. Now, the demand is across the board BUT don't lose sight of your goal. I'm not going to be the Amazing Karnak (Johhny Carson character) and predict when this run/horde/grab for components will end. I don't know!

I have a 280 Rem that is every bit as good as any rifle I own. A simple chamber job would turn it into a 280 AI, and someday I might go down that road. For now, I'm quite happy with the 280 Rem. Unless a 270 Weatherby came along, I wouldn't really consider getting a 270 Win. A 270 Wby is THE 270 to have, in my opinion. Honestly, there is nothing a 280 Rem will do that a 270 Win can't do if both put the right kind of bullet where it needs to be.

As for trimming down on the numbers you reload for, we all go through some kind of up and down with different rifles, chamberings, ect., so I would hold onto what you have.

 

[Oldtrader3]

BTW, IMR 4350 works just fine for both calibers (.270, .280). I know, I had both for 15 years.

 

[preacher]

I'd check on the specs to see if the Nosler factory 280 AI has the same specs as a fireformed 280 round. My firend had some that had the shoulder a bit shorter than, say, a Remington 280 fireform round. In other words, if they were chambered in a regular 280 AI done by a gunsmith, they would most likely not fire. Just saying. He may have had a bad Lot. I bought some 7mm STW ammo through Cabela's once, loaded by Art Alphin, and they wouldn't even chamber in a custom rifle. If they are shorter, and you have a lot invested in their ammo/brass, you would have to have your chamber cut to those specs or sell/trade them off. I know, sounds flakey, but it bears checking out. I had a 280 AI and I fireformed all my brass from Remington nickled brass...all that was available then. The nickel is difficult to deal with, flakes off the neck/shoulder or necks split very easy, too brittle. Thankfully, one can find decent brass today....but I would check that Nosler ammo! Good luck to you.