Indiana/Michigan Deer Rifles

Clintsfolly

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Not many bolt guns or autos will feed a rimmed case. But the 460 S&W is a fine round in a single shot :) Clint
 

JD338

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Dwh7271":ub1d32fg said:
If 1.8" is the case length number, why not just chamber one for a 460 S & W? Bet that would be a thumper although probably not exactly a long range rig. :grin: If it's OAL at 1.8", excuse the post!

The basic dimensions of the new .460 Magnum are as follows: bullet diameter .454", rim diameter .520", case diameter .478", overall case length 1.800", cartridge overall length (COL) 2.300". The official SAAMI maximum average pressure (MAP) is 65,000 psi!


In MI, the max case length is 1.800". The 460 S&W would be good, especially in a Marlin.

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Thebear_78

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A marlin won't handle 460 pressures. The 460 is a 65k psi cartridge. Same problem as 500 smith in lever guns.
 

JD338

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Thebear_78":2kwjxb5s said:
A marlin won't handle 460 pressures. The 460 is a 65k psi cartridge. Same problem as 500 smith in lever guns.

Yup, exactly.

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Dr. Vette

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Thebear_78":297434ie said:
A marlin won't handle 460 pressures. The 460 is a 65k psi cartridge. Same problem as 500 smith in lever guns.

That would explain why I can't find one. :mrgreen:
 

Clintsfolly

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Big Horn make one but there Very proud of them! Looks to be a nice gun but I am not sure I want that much power in that small of a gun. Recoil will be very sharpe. You will never not know if it went off:) Clint
 

JD338

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Clintsfolly":1el0j3jh said:
Big Horn make one but there Very proud of them! Looks to be a nice gun but I am not sure I want that much power in that small of a gun. Recoil will be very sharpe. You will never not know if it went off:) Clint

Clint,

It would still be less than your 458 AR(UM). :mrgreen:

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Clintsfolly

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I have way less money in my 458accrel and it fit better then any lever gun ever has plus I have have never taken it to the limits. Plus it just pushes you if you let it roll and just hanG ON! So I can if I ever need but not many thing in MI that need that much killing! Clint
 

Oldtrader3

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I do not understand why they did not just specify Ft/Lbs (or even factory cartridges) like Washington used to do with handguns for deer.
 

JD338

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Clintsfolly":ab9c5gx9 said:
Any Michiganders get there zone 3 deer with a limited gun? Clint

I was successful with my new "Southern MI Deer Rifle", a Marlin 1894 44 Rem Mag shooting a Nosler 240 gr JHP. The blood trail was amazing!

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Thebear_78

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Good to hear JD I ordered a couple boxes of the nosler 240s for my son and I. For our ruger carbines. Figure it will make a good black bear over bait load for my 11 year old.
 

Oldtrader3

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A Model 1890 or 94 Trapper would be ideal for Indiana or Michigan, in .375 Win or .44 Mag! Even a .30-30 or .32 Special would be great but are too long?
 

Dr. Vette

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Oldtrader3":2ahzogdk said:
Even a .30-30 or .32 Special would be great but are too long?
Yep.

Ballistics on a 30-30, 32 Special or 35 Rem are not dissimilar to a modern muzzleloader or slug rifle, but are not legal.
 

JD338

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Oldtrader3":m4w08boz said:
A Model 1890 or 94 Trapper would be ideal for Indiana or Michigan, in .375 Win or .44 Mag! Even a .30-30 or .32 Special would be great but are too long?

Charlie,

I'd use a 375 Win in a heart beat if I could but
the case is too long.

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Oldtrader3

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That is what happens when bureaucrats make regulations about something they do not understand!
 

JD338

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Agree. I have wanted a 375 Win for a long time Its a great round
in a T/C Contender hand gun too.

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