loads for the 300 H & H

[Oldtrader3]

Cheyenne, I contracted TB while working in rural India and China. I got my first MRSA pneumonia with the TB and was in a coma for 10 days in the iCU and in the hospital for 25 days. They tie-wrapped me with plastic to the bed frame and left me for dead. I still have massive scars on my arms from that. I only weighed 116 pounds, instead of 160, after the hospital was done with me. So I lived in a Seniors home for 3 years recovering. Then I got lung cancer.

Anyhow, I sold all of my Pre 64, Model 70's and better shotguns, including my .30 H&H and my .338 WM during a divorce at that time. I thought that my elk hunting days were over. However, it is better to have dreams than to be practical when you are a ill as I have been. I bought a .340 Weatherby, sold it, followed by a .338 Federal and now a 9.3x74R to replace the .340.

This because I am not giving up on me. I may be a physical mess but I am a hopeful physical mess. As long a there is hope, I will own some larger caliber rifles and shoot to practice for the day that I go elk hunting again! Besides, I like shooting medium bores a great deal! Just my slant on things.

 

[JD338]

Cheyenne,

Here is a link to the history of Nosler and how it all started on a Canadian moose in 1946.
http://www.nosler.com/Company-History.aspx

JD338

 

[Thankful Otter]

Jim

thank you for posting that, I had not read that before and enjoyed the story. I feel honored to be shooting the same caliber Mr Nosler did in 1946. We will have to get some 200 gr Partions and see if this gun likes them as well as she does the 200 gr swift. After all of my husbands huffing and puffing he is now somewhat reluctant to mess with what we know works.

charlie, I am not surprised you beat the odds, in regards to your health. you are a fighter, and a tough one at that sir. My husband is not shooting the 340 weatherby and loves that gun. The 9.3 x 74R is another very cool caliber charlie

 

[JD338]

Cheyenne,

The 200 gr PT is a good bullet. It penetrates deep. If you need more, there is also a 220 gr PT.

JD338

 

[Oldtrader3]

Thanks, Cheyenne, I hope that your husband gets good use of the .340 Weatherby. It is one of the best calibers for elk sized game.

 

[SJB358]

Cheyenne,

The 200 gr PT is a good bullet. It penetrates deep. If you need more, there is also a 220 gr PT.

JD338

Jim hits a great point Cheyenne, if you won't be shooting much further than 300 yards, you will in no way be handicapped with the Nosler 220 PT in your 300, and my Lord, you will never recover a bullet!

Cartridge : .300 H.& H. Mag.
Bullet : .308, 220, Nosler PART SPSemi 16332
Useable Case Capaci: 74.220 grain H2O = 4.819 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.600 inch = 91.44 mm
Barrel Length : 25.0 inch = 635.0 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-22

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.0 90 62.24 2525 3114 44960 10921 98.5 1.482
-09.0 91 62.94 2552 3182 46458 11024 98.7 1.459
-08.0 92 63.63 2579 3250 48004 11123 99.0 1.437
-07.0 93 64.32 2607 3319 49601 11216 99.2 1.415
-06.0 94 65.01 2634 3389 51251 11305 99.4 1.394
-05.0 95 65.70 2661 3459 52955 11389 99.6 1.373
-04.0 96 66.39 2688 3530 54716 11467 99.7 1.353
-03.0 97 67.09 2715 3601 56535 11541 99.8 1.333 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 98 67.78 2742 3673 58415 11609 99.9 1.313 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 99 68.47 2769 3745 60359 11671 100.0 1.294 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 100 69.16 2795 3817 62368 11728 100.0 1.275 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 101 69.85 2822 3890 64446 11780 100.0 1.256 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 102 70.54 2848 3963 66595 11830 100.0 1.238 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0 103 71.23 2875 4037 68819 11879 100.0 1.220 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 104 71.93 2901 4111 71119 11927 100.0 1.202 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 105 72.62 2927 4185 73501 11974 100.0 1.185 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 100 69.16 2903 4116 75118 11267 100.0 1.182 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 100 69.16 2635 3393 49898 11855 97.0 1.400

That is some serious whoop em right there.....

 

[Oldtrader3]

Personally, I am a one bullet per gun guy. This way, I do not have to think about what I am shooting and just go with it or get another weapon for the task. The 200 gr bullet, for what you are using the .300 H&H for is probably the best all around choice, that is, if you subcribe to the one bullet per rifle theory.

 

[Thankful Otter]

Jim, thanks again
Scotty, wow that 220 would definitely get the job done and we WORK at not shooting over 300 yards and prefer to be even closer.

Charlie, as you might have noticed from my earlier post on this thread, both Aleena and our grandfather also subscribe to the one load/one gun theory and it would be hard to fault their or your success over the years. With the 30-06, 300 H & H and 375 H & H I am in a pretty good place that would allow me to do just that. If I was lucky enough to get the 275 H & H down the road, that would do it for sure. We have smaller calibers but never use them even for Wolf hunts and of course the 45/70 is always with us, but its purpose is more for protection than hunting and it is a fun gun to play with. And as much as I thought I had to have the 416 Rigby, it has turned into a safe queen

 

[Oldtrader3]

Cheyenne, I had the same issue with the .340 Weatherby, by the time that I purchased this rifle, my lungs were gone and elk hunting became moot. So now I have: .204 Ruger, .257 Roberts. .270 Win, 7mm Mag, .30-06, .338 Federal and 9.3x74R. Each of these is loaded with one load, except the 9.3x74R (because I have not decided on a bullet weight yet) and I can just graduate to the next larger or smaller caliber with no muss, no fuss.

The 9.3x74R is an ego extension for my loss of faculties and may end up a sitting rifle for elk? I am still cogitating this one. Plus, I have lots of time to dally her as I am retired.

The .416 Rigby is a great caliber and if you do more African hunting, I am sure that you will find a good use for the Rigby. Even close in use on brown bears would be a good use of the 400 grain Rigby load for chills and thrills with a varmit call, if you are so inclined.

 

[runtohunt]

All this talk of the 300 H &H is making me want to take mine out and start reloading for it. About 10 years ago, my wife's grandmother gave me my wife's grandfather's Remington 721 in the 300 H&H. The rifle has been used and has taken many mule deer and black tail. Just wish it was a model 70 :wink:

 

[Thankful Otter]

Charlie, that 9.3 x 74R is a very cool classic caliber. That would be a great one to have. A quick note Charlie before i go to work.

someone ask us once, do you call bears--we said, never on purpose! LOL

Charlie, Scotty, jim and any others who drop into this thread--have a great day, I am off to work.

ps. Scotty, good luck on the table project. Lori is lucky to have a husband that is capable of doing these types of projects. My husband is good at waiting until I am up and saying, honey now that your up could you get me a beer and put another log on the fire. (-:

psps runtohunt, --but the sentimental value is a plus. Glad to hear someone else does have one. If your thinking of reloading for it, the advise from the fellows on this thread should give you plenty to think about. good luck

 

[hunternyny]

I dont think I ever thought about this caliber that much, but since reading the History of Nosler Jim posted it has perked my interest

My question is to those who know like scotty, and charlie. Could this caliber be used for Brown Bear with the 220 gr ? It sure seems like it could

 

[DrMike]

I dont think I ever thought about this caliber that much, but since reading the History of Nosler Jim posted it has perked my interest

My question is to those who know like scotty, and charlie. Could this caliber be used for Brown Bear with the 220 gr ? It sure seems like it could

I wouldn't hesitate to use it on brown bear. Either a 200 grain Partition or a 220 grain Partition would be just the ticket. That amount of mass at the velocities generated would ensure complete penetration. The old H&H feeds slick, assisting in quick chambering for a second or a third shot. (I like to keep shooting until the big bears stop moving.)

 

[SJB358]

I dont think I ever thought about this caliber that much, but since reading the History of Nosler Jim posted it has perked my interest

My question is to those who know like scotty, and charlie. Could this caliber be used for Brown Bear with the 220 gr ? It sure seems like it could

Heck yeah, I wouldn't hesitate to hunt any bears with a 220 PT.. That bullet has alot of mass and will penetrate really deep. I am probably more apt to jump up a little to the 338/35's, but the 300 mags with 220's are pretty awesome.

 

[onesonek]

Personally, I am a one bullet per gun guy. This way, I do not have to think about what I am shooting and just go with it or get another weapon for the task. The 200 gr bullet, for what you are using the .300 H&H for is probably the best all around choice, that is, if you subcribe to the one bullet per rifle theory.

I will agree.

 

[gerry]

I dont think I ever thought about this caliber that much, but since reading the History of Nosler Jim posted it has perked my interest

My question is to those who know like scotty, and charlie. Could this caliber be used for Brown Bear with the 220 gr ? It sure seems like it could

My buddy has killed several grizzlies including a B&C coastal bear with his 300 WM and a 220 gr Partition @ 2700 fps, it works very well. I killed one black bear with them in a 308 Norma also @ 2700 fps and it was a real hammer. My buddy has had better success with the 300 WM than his 375 Ruger since he shoots it better. I am in the same camp now the 375 is on thin ice since my perfect 35 Whelen has arrived.....

 

[DrMike]

I am in the same camp now the 375 is on thin ice since my perfect 35 Whelen has arrived.....

Well, I'd guess! :lol: Just look at your signature line!

 

[Oldtrader3]

From my experience of shooting an elk with a 180 PT, I believe that the 220 Pt would take care of 99% of shots required on any Brown Bear. The foot pounds of energy and penetration are there. Personally, I would rather use my 9.3x74R with the 286 gr Partition for that task but I am sure the .300 H&H with 200/220 gr Partition would be up to the task.

 

[JD338]

I dont think I ever thought about this caliber that much, but since reading the History of Nosler Jim posted it has perked my interest

My question is to those who know like scotty, and charlie. Could this caliber be used for Brown Bear with the 220 gr ? It sure seems like it could

With out a doubt. The 300 H&H loaded with a 220 gr PT @ 2700 fps is a hammer and it will penetrate into tomorrow.

JD338

 

[tddeangelo]

I would think so, Jim.

As you and I discussed, one of the deer I shot with my 300H&H using 180's delivered penetration that went from near the hip and all the way up into the deer's neck, from a range of 180 yards, give or take.

With less mass, the 180 won't penetrate quite as well as a 200, or a 220, but that 180 move through a lot of venison!