Long Distance Sheep & Goat rifle

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Ammo Smith
Nov 4, 2007
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Hi gerry I was thinking of you yesterday. A fellow came into the local shop and wants to sell a 7RUM lefty BDL. I took a look at it and it looks to be in good shape not excellent. It has not been fired to many times as there is no discolouring.
Price is around 750.00 Canadian Hey :mrgreen:

Blessings,
Dan
 
I saw the title of this thread and said " Now we're talking" :) The 7mm RUM would be a bit much for me would prefer a 7MM RM or 280 :) It would definitely be a long range gun that's for sure, a 160 or 175 would fly flat and hit hard on anything from deer to moose.
 
Dan,

Barrel life on the 7RUM tends to be abbreviated. That would be a major detractor.
 
...sheep & goats, weight is not your friend, there are a number of rifles that would allow you to shave a couple of pounds, some available in that price range or less. My Tikka T3 Lite .300 WSM is just an ounce or two over 7lbs. w/ a 4.5X14 VX-3. Need to ask yourself if 200, maybe 300fps over a smaller 7mm case is enough of an advantage to make up humping it @8000ft. elev. or dealing w/ the recoil in a lighter rifle...
 
I'd be better off shedding some pounds around my middle than worrying about rifle weight. :oops: Apparently I wintered rather well...
 
You guys are making me feel bad. My wife returned and now I have to start eating properly. While she was gone, I could eat a cardiologist's nightmare, knowing that I'd have to shed a bit once she was home. Already begun the daily walking routine, and I even eat salads. Ah, maybe I'll be in shape by time for fall hunting. Maybe I'll get a new river boat for my birthday. Maybe I'll bowl a perfect game. Maybe...
 
Gerry,

The 7mm RUM pushes a 160 gr AB at 3300 fps+ making it a real flat shooter. As already mentioned, 3000 fps would be more than enough for sheep and goats. The 280 AI can get you there.

JD338
 
JD338":1ysbfjy9 said:
Gerry,

The 7mm RUM pushes a 160 gr AB at 3300 fps+ making it a real flat shooter. As already mentioned, 3000 fps would be more than enough for sheep and goats. The 280 AI can get you there.

JD338
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My thoughts as well.
 
Sheep are easy to kill but goats are another story, the guy I guided for liked 300's and 338's quite a bit for goats. I think that fast expanding bullets that hang together are ideal like the Nosler Partitions, AccuBond and Swift Scirocco. The 280 and 7mm mags with a 160, 30-06 with 165-180's are my idea of being ideal. I'm really looking forward to seing what the 200 gr AccuBond from the 35 Whelen will do, it will most likely crumple a goat and become my all time favorite goat gun. Some guys are wondering what the 200 gr AB will be good for, it will be outstanding at knocking down deer sized game.
 
Good conversation about 7s that I always find interesting. As far the extra pounds I got on the scale after the winter and my talking scale asked one of us to get off :cry:
I have already started the process of shedding :p old age has already set in with Type 2 and the regular trip to see my Doc regarding Cholesterol:(
Well hopefully a new out look can change some of that :mrgreen:

Blessings.
Dan
 
Wouldnt want to mess with Accubonds for deer, but have already got a new Frankfort Arsenal "Ammo Vault" ready to pack for Goats this Sept in Alaska . The box has 20 of the prettyest 225gr Accubonds peaking out of it when you open it you ever saw! They are sitting ontop of 59grs of RL-15 and some CCI mag primers and I have no doubt they will dispatch any goat promtly if I can do my part correctly . When guiding sheep hunters for years in the Endicott Mts in Northern Alaska alot of the quickest kills I ever saw came from the little .243 Winchester, some of the worst nightmares came out of magnums with way heavy bullets; either bonded; or too heavy jacketed; or both..................... holes looked the same size going in; as they did coming out. Sheep stumbling all over the place, and draggin themselves around suffering.............. bullets ment for Kudu dont work very well on animals that have weigh in 900lbs less........................ I tryed my .338 WM a couple of times on sheep hoping to get enough of an angling shot to get it to expand some..............wrong............ poorest gun you could ever use on a sheep. Wounded both of them and wouldnt recomend that experence to anyone. I was using the 210 Nosler Partitions that was a great Moose load but just way to much for the density of a sheep. Even the 06 with 165 didnt work nearly as well as the .270 [the caliber of choice] and the one we always recomended to Sheep hunters. Of course only a small percentage would listen and instead show up with a 300 Magnum and 180gr bullets of a premium nature and then the story goes downhill from there. I never could understand where the idea came from to use a caliber and bullet that works so nicely on a thousand pound animal and apply it to a hundred and fifty pound one. If the animal is so far away that only someone on "Best in the West" can hit it with a magnum rifle you may want to consider getting a wee bit closer.................. :wink:
 
I think part of the problem with bigger caliber guns is simply they aren't as shootable as a small gun so the animals don't get hit in the right place. In the 338 WM I would agree that a heavy slug isn't going to be nearly as effective as a lighter bullet like a 200 gr AccuBond moving much faster. A guy I have hunted with has posted some pics here in the last few years has taken a bunch of sheep and other stuff with the old 200 gr Ballistic Tip and in recent years the 200 gr E Tip and has done pretty good. I still like the cartridges I mentioned earlier better for goat though like the 280, 7mm RM and 30-06 using a bullet that opens up a good sized wound channel. On the sheep hunts I've been on the 270 Win with 130 gr Hornadys has done very well for my partners, my only sheep so far fell nicely to that reknowned sheep slayer the 35 Whelen shooting 225 gr Ballistic Tip's :) he just stiffened up and fell. Another friend used a 30-06 with 150 gr Speer G.S. to take his gorgeous ram on a trip I wasn't on.
 
Shoot-ability is my largest concern when dealing with any firearm and inexperienced shooters. Quite frankly.... I wouldn't shoot a .338 enough to be comfortable with it... and I shoot many more rounds than the average shooter. Unfamiliar/Seldom shot firearms are a rodeo waiting to happen afield. When it comes to caliber..... "A man has got to know his limitations......."
 
Hopefully I will someday draw a sheep or goat tag. That would be awesome!

What do you sheep & goat hunters think about my .25-06 for the job?

I keep it sighted in at 300 yards with the 6x Leupold, a very clear and bright scope. Ammo is typically one of the 115 gr bullets at around 3200 fps via Retumbo powder. Accuracy is sub MOA, but hardly in the match-rifle class. I've got good loads for both the 115 Nosler Partition and the 115 Nosler Ballistic tip.

It's become a favorite mule deer rifle, but I've never tried it on anything hardier.

Thanks, Guy
 
I should have also mentioned earlier when it comes to shootability I'm not nearly as good with my 375 Ruger as a smaller gun.

Guy, your 25-06 will do the job nicely, I have shot a goat with my 260 which worked well.
 
I know it's not a super duper new fangled earsplittenloudenboomer super ultra micro magnum with chocholate sprinkles but since you're looking for a lefty gun your options will be limited. How bout a plain vanilla good ol' 270 win? When climbing mountains I'm more concerned with practicality than impressing the boys on the forum or range. With some recently introduced bullets it shoots as flat or flatter than a .280 rem 160 BT and it's been doing a fine job on game since before even the weatherby magnums were a glimmer in somebody's eye and the sheer genius of poutine was conceived. You should be easily able to find or build the appropriately light, accurate, wrong handed rifle for it and I doubt you'll ever be disappointed.
 
I got on the scale after the winter and my talking scale asked one of us to get off


Man I hate it when that happens...... What I know about it is zilch, but there seems to be some wisdom in a little lighter rifle. Standard 7MAG should be enough anyway. But if you like an "ULTRA MAG" ..... CL
 
Hi Polaris, I agree about the 270win. I have shot one for 41 years & have been loading for them every year but the first year :). I have only shot 1 weight of bullet in that caliber & that is a 130gr. I have had a box of speers 110gr. In the cupboard for @ least 10 years but have never loaded them. My Pop told me if it an't broke don't fix it. I have lived in Saskatchewan all my life and plan on leaving from this place as well:). I have shot Antelope to Moose with the that caliber. I guess those as I get older I want to simplify so it will be just 2 calibers I just mentioned the first & the second is the 35 Whelen.
But I am not promising because I still enjoy learning & experimenting with other calibers.

Blessings,
DanJ
 
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