My 6mm rem made it in! NICE

[Guest]

I believe you're right, Guy. I think it's a corporate focus issue. By that, I mean I think the new ownership of Remington has at it's core focus to save pennies at every turn and to milk the name for all it's worth and then throw it away. You mark my words, the brands they own (including Dakota) will all suffer greatly over the next decade (or less) and end up sold off as scrap. Someone will resurrect a few of the brands at some point, and I suspect Remmie will be among them. Remember that it Winchester has gone through two failures so far. The rifle business is pretty difficult to navigate, it appears. It seems pretty sensible that it takes quality builds with good features in a nice handling package, but I suppose when you start figuring in cost to build and selling price, and the slimming margin between the two, it isn't as simple as it sounds.

Fotis, I had a similar conversation with Remington on the 7mm. I asked what they used as a standard for accuracy and all they would tell me was "The Remington 700 is one of the most accurate rifles in the world." Never did get any kind of answer, but judging from your experience, if I had asked them if 2-3" was sufficient, they'd have said yes. It's a shame. I'm optimistic the newest rifle in my safe will provide me with hours of good shooting enjoyment, though. Can't wait to get caught up on everything and take a range day.

 

[FOTIS]

I believe you're right sir.

Remington is just so disappointing to me.

 

[BK]

I know any gun maker can have QC issues, but it sure seems like Remington has a bunch of them anymore - as does Marlin, now owned by Remington.

Technically, Remington doesn't own Marlin, they are both owned by the same holding company (who also owns Barnes Bullets).

 

[DrMike]

Technically, Remington doesn't own Marlin, they are both owned by the same holding company (who also owns Barnes Bullets).

and DPMS/Panther Arms, and Bushmaster, and NEF, and H&R, and Parker Gun, and EOTAC, and Dakota Arms, and Advanced Armament, and...

This is Freedom Group under control of Cerberus. For what it is worth, the company is boosting values for those holding stock representing these companies. However, it would seem that the increased value comes at expense of quality.

 

[BK]

Yeah, I knew there were a bunch, but I didn't care enough to look at what they might be.

I find it interesting that at least four of the companies offer ARs.

 

[DrMike]

Kurt,

They went after the companies making ARs first, it seemed.

 

[nvbroncrider]

I'm into mine $200 for the jewell $525 for action and metal $710 for Pac-Nor SMSS fluted and $275 for an Accublock stock. So its marginal at best. Total is $1710.

How do you like the Accublock stock? They look sharp.

I've considered putting a 6 PPC into the Target version.

I got a post on it in Product Review. Haven't shot it yet cause I'm in the process of taking action up to be barreled.

 

[nvbroncrider]

I haven't bought a new Remington since 2004 (how the heck did that get to be 8 years ago?) but that 700 CDL shoots pretty good as issued by Remington. Sure has put antlers on the wall consistently.

A buddy got a brand new Rem 700 in .270 last year, and that doggone thing shoots factory ammo into 3/4" groups at 100 yards easily enough. He hardly knows anything about rifles, shooting or hunting either... It's got one of those funky two-tone plastic stocks that I don't really like, but it does seem to be much stronger and stiffer than the older synthetic stocks. The new trigger was pretty crisp too, I have to admit. He got a good looking, good shooting rifle.

We put a new .308 700 LTR (Light Tactical Rifle) into service with the SWAT team a few years ago. I sighted it in. Dang... The little rascal is a hammer with 168 gr Federal match ammo. Even with the 20" barrel, it easily dings targets at 700 & 800 yards, as well as producing good results at 100 yards. That one and my friend's new .270 both have the Mark X trigger - and both are pretty good - not great but good.

Can't say I like where Remington has gone with their new GIANT recoil pads on the otherwise classic looking 700 CDL series, but the few new Remington rifles I've seen in action have all worked perfectly and shot well. Beats me.

Still - these days if I was choosing one or the other, I'd likely go with one of those FN/Winchester 70's... Something just plain RIGHT about them!

Guy

I agree with you Guy that's why the one I bought for my project was something I never would shoot as is don't want to have any doubt and disappointment enter my mind. 700 ADL stainless. I like the looks of the CDL but I hate the tumor they put on that they call a recoil pad. That's the reason I won't buy one of there .280 Limited Editons. The ones they put on their early 90's Mtn Rifles are about perfect love that stock. They would be better off just making their stock and putting the DB752 Pachmyer on it that's a great looking and functioning pad. Then there is the wart debacle they put on the bolt shroud commonly know as J-Lock. What a waste of time money and ingenuity. I will admit though I do like that Mark-X trigger it feels better than there older triggers but I still decided to go another route.

 

[BK]

I hate the tumor they put on that they call a recoil pad.

(In my best Arnold Schwarzenegger voice) "It's not a tumor!"

Actually, that is a pretty funny, and accurate, description. You know things have gone bad for your company when people start using terms like 'tumor' and 'wart' to describe your product.