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[sask boy]

Scotty if it was not for the fine people on this forum I would have never got involved like I have. I find the knowledge here to be absolutely amazing and it has helped me because I attempt to pick up what I can and then research it as well.
A lot of my friends don't understand why I would build a 280 AI when I have a 270 win that shoot the lights out. I just tell them that a 270 is good but a 280 AI is better and that it is not that I dislike the 277 caliber I just want to find the best for what I do.
I also take great pleasure in shooting a fine rifle and producing a very accurate load for that particular rifle :mrgreen:

Blessings,
Dan

 

[SJB358]

Scotty if it was not for the fine people on this forum I would have never got involved like I have. I find the knowledge here to be absolutely amazing and it has helped me because I attempt to pick up what I can and then research it as well.
A lot of my friends don't understand why I would build a 280 AI when I have a 270 win that shoot the lights out. I just tell them that a 270 is good but a 280 AI is better and that it is not that I dislike the 277 caliber I just want to find the best for what I do.
I also take great pleasure in shooting a fine rifle and producing a very accurate load for that particular rifle :mrgreen:

Blessings,
Dan

Crazy is contagious around here Dan. I blame Mike!

 

[DrMike]

Scotty if it was not for the fine people on this forum I would have never got involved like I have. I find the knowledge here to be absolutely amazing and it has helped me because I attempt to pick up what I can and then research it as well.
A lot of my friends don't understand why I would build a 280 AI when I have a 270 win that shoot the lights out. I just tell them that a 270 is good but a 280 AI is better and that it is not that I dislike the 277 caliber I just want to find the best for what I do.
I also take great pleasure in shooting a fine rifle and producing a very accurate load for that particular rifle :mrgreen:

Blessings,
Dan

Crazy is contagious around here Dan. I blame Mike!

I'm innocent. I didn't do it. And if I did I don't remember.

 

[sask boy]

Yes I think if we had a vote Mike could be the one common denominator 8).
If not him I could likely blame Scotty, Fotis, Jerry, Ot, JD or a couple dozen other people but someone gave the bug to me :mrgreen:.
At least that is what I am telling my wife :lol: & I think I just about have her believing me :shock:

Blessings,
Dan

 

[gerry]

Dan, I know you are going with a Defiance action but I just found this, I think they are in Vancouver, lots of interesting things on their website.

http://www.northshorebarrels.ca/pierce

 

[sask boy]

Jerry do you know anyone that has one of these Actions.
I would have been researching them early but I am getting a defiance for a little bit more :wink:
I am still waiting for Rod to call me back so I can place the order.
I am going to see what Jayce thinks of them.
Blessings,
Dan

 

[gerry]

I don`t know anything about them but thought I would pass it on. It`s hard to believe how many Rem 700 clones are out there, just shows how good the design is.

 

[sask boy]

You are so right :wink: I had Jayce look at the site and he was quite impressed the main manufacturer looks to be Pierce Engineering.

Blessings,
Dan

 

[EOD Diver]

ALCON,
I just saw the reference to Pierce Engineering above and felt compelled to write and share my experience with them, as it was almost entirely negative.

BLUF: I RECOMMEND AGAINST ANYONE DEALING WITH JOHN PIERCE!

First off, when this occurred during the summer of 2012, I pondered writing about my experience with them, but decided against it because I try to abstain from bashing people online and the gunsmiths that work for him seem to be good people. Anyway, I selected the Pierce action because it seemed to be a quality hunting (vice tactical) style 700 clone. I contracted them to build my "dream" rifle in .280AI with a Krieger barrel, Williams bottom metal, Jewell trigger, and HS Precision stock. Things went well, until I received the rifle and the bottom metal was flawed. I called the company and John Pierce answered. I politely asked him to fix the flaw and he essentially told me to go to hell. He explained that if there was a problem with the barrel, talk to Krieger and for a problem with the bottom metal to talk to Williams Firearms. It's the worst customer service I've ever encountered. I explained that I had contracted to him to build the rifle, acting as not only a supplier of the action, but my gunsmith. He was as rude as they come and told me to piss off. I thought I was screwed so I actually did what he said and contacted Mr. Williams, which turned out to be a blessing. He was as polite as they come and explained that with all the flaws in the bottom metal that he didn't think it was one of his, and that if it was that he would be more than happy to replace it. I sent it to him and he confirmed that it wasn't one of his and believed it to be a PTG unit, which by the way was significantly cheaper. This changed things and put the ball back in my court. I spoke with a military lawyer on base who explained my rights as a customer. Happily, I called back Mr. Pierce and explained to him that swapping a cheaper part for a more expensive one, that I had paid for, was fraud and that I wanted my money back in full, including all the shipping I'd incurred sending bottom metal and rifles around or that I'd see him in court. Now if there's one thing I can't stand, it's a sea lawyer. That said, with the amount of money that I put into that rifle and to have it be nothing more than an eye sore/ulcer collecting dust in my safe, I felt justified. The funny thing is that I'd have been as happy as a hobo with a ham sandwich had he simply fixed the bottom metal flaw. One of his gunsmiths later called me to try to rectify the problem. He was a nice guy, and professional as well, but I explained that I'd sooner contribute to the President's re-election fund than to give John Pierce a penny from my pocket. He said that he understood, expressed remorse, and admitted a few things about his boss that were less than positive. His attempt at damage control is truly what prevented the broadcast of my experience with John Pierce. I try to look for the good that comes from things, so I'm happy to report that I'll be a customer for life of the Williams Firearms Company and that his one piece bottom metal will grace any future builds, including the upcoming pre-64 .270 Win build that is being barreled by Bartlein as we speak.
I hope you all will forgive me for slamming John Pierce on the forum, but, as I previously stated, I truly felt compelled to share my experience and warn others as well.

V/R,

Joe

 

[SJB358]

Good info Joe. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[DrMike]

Appreciate the intel, Joe. Thanks. It does not serve Mr. Pierce well to provide such poor service.

 

[sask boy]

Thanks Joe, I know that I am paying top dollar for a defiance but I believe that there might be some actions as good but I don't think there are any better.

Blessings,
Dan

 

[sask boy]

Hi Guys, I am really having trouble getting any confirmation on stocks
Was given a suggestion on a company I have never heard of actually the owner of RMR mentioned them to me and he advised that he spoke with owner of the company at Vegas Show a week or so ago & he is order 50 of them. He recommended that I order the Elite Hunter either the EH-2 or EH-3. Is there anyone with experience using them or just good old opinions.
Oh yes the action has been ordered :wink:
Thanking everyone in advance.

Blessings,
Dan

 

[gerry]

Is this the company Dan?

http://mannersstocks.com/hunting/

 

[sask boy]

Yes Jerry that is the company. I have sent a email to Rod at RMR to get a actual price

Blessings,
Dan

 

[Woodycreek]

Dan,

I have been eyeballing the Manners EH-4 to replace an H&S stock. Talked to Joel a few days ago about them after calling Manners. The rep from Manners was more than helpful with what I needed. Only thing to do now is cough up $569!

 

[gerry]

They look awfully good Dan, high quality for sure.

 

[sask boy]

They are very similar to the H & S stock but supposedly easier to get here in Canada. I know that are RMR are a top rifle maker and Rod was very impressed. Now hopefully they can come through with the promise of getting them up here in a reasonable length of time

Blessings,
Dan

 

[sask boy]

WC, what are you planning to place on that EH-4 on?

Blessings,
Dan

 

[Woodycreek]

Trying to cut weight on my Sendero. Kind of a bulky stock and not what I want for a carry rifle. Hate the big palm swell and wide forearm. I like the heavy barrel, but the stock needs to go.