QL request- help with a rabbit hole.

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grifmXC

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Dec 6, 2019
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Good morning, I was wondering if the barnes 208 LRX is available in QL yet and if so would someone mind running a couple different things through for me. Not really sure what the table is called but the one where gives you the table of approximate max charge for different powders.

I’m starting to plan a new hunting rifle build and I’ve been listening to the Backcountry Hunting Podcast and if anyone else listens or has listened he is a big fan of the 280AI as it gives near mag performance with less powder/recoil and in most platforms will hold 4-5 rounds. Being a 30cal guy, I got to thinking that all of that really applies to the 30-06AI, not that the vanilla 30-06 really needs much improvement. From looking at some of the other threads running the 30-06 to 63-64k pressure and others discussing 200gr loads I eventually got to looking at/being curious about how would the 208 LRX do in the 06/06AI especially in a rifle with a long throat and extended mag to minimize how much the bullet cuts powder capacity. Then I started wondering if life wouldn’t just be easier to build a 300wsm.

So if someone doesn’t mind running the data I am looking to see what the recommended powders are for the following:

30-06AI - bullet: 208LRX COAL: 3.7 and pressure: 64k

300wsm - bullet 208LRX COAL: 3.34 and pressure 64k.

From my back of the napkin math I’m guessing that the 06AI would be somewhere around 2700 and the 300wsm 2800+.

Thanks for your assistance in advance.

Matt
 
Code: 
Cartridge          : .30-06 Ack Imp
Bullet             : .308, 208, Barnes 'LRX' BT 30311
Useable Case Capaci: 62.911 grain H2O = 4.085 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.700 inch = 93.98 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 64000 psi, or 441 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

8 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26 *C              106.0     66.1     4.28    2859   100.0    64000   11162   1.178  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP *C                       106.8     64.6     4.19    2831    99.9    64000   11304   1.180  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 *C                 108.5     64.3     4.16    2820    98.2    64000   11566   1.178  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                    108.8     67.0     4.34    2812    97.0    64000   11629   1.183  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation       108.7     63.7     4.13    2799    99.4    64000   11128   1.184  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 *C                    108.7     63.7     4.13    2799    99.4    64000   11128   1.184  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 *C              108.7     63.7     4.13    2799    99.4    64000   11128   1.184  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                       106.8     63.6     4.12    2799    98.5    64000   11141   1.172  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70 *C                99.7     61.6     3.99    2797   100.0    64000   10465   1.176  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60 *T                96.8     58.9     3.82    2790   100.0    64000    9980   1.178  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12                  110.0     68.1     4.41    2788    98.7    62177   11272   1.185  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                        107.6     63.1     4.09    2783    98.4    64000   11047   1.173  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517                110.0     68.1     4.41    2783    98.5    61811   11281   1.188  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                     108.1     68.3     4.42    2775    99.6    64000   10596   1.176  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 *T               95.8     58.3     3.78    2768   100.0    64000    9911   1.187  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17                            95.8     58.3     3.78    2768   100.0    64000    9911   1.187  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 *C *T           100.8     57.0     3.69    2763   100.0    64000    9882   1.181  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RL16 TZ *C *T               100.8     57.0     3.69    2763   100.0    64000    9882   1.181  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N555 *C*T               107.6     61.2     3.96    2761   100.0    64000   10057   1.211  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                      109.8     63.2     4.09    2760    98.1    64000   10804   1.188  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 76 *C               110.0     68.6     4.45    2756    99.6    54735   11901   1.247
Winchester WXR                     110.0     63.1     4.09    2754    99.0    60619   11037   1.213  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15                        110.0     63.1     4.09    2754    99.0    60619   11037   1.213  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 *C              105.2     61.0     3.95    2751    99.3    64000   10573   1.188  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518                101.4     60.7     3.93    2751   100.0    64000   10307   1.193  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                        104.5     60.3     3.91    2751    99.2    64000   10495   1.180  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP36 ZT *C *T               110.0     62.4     4.04    2749   100.0    62197    9894   1.203  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23 *C *T           110.0     62.4     4.04    2749   100.0    62197    9894   1.203  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62                   99.3     60.3     3.91    2749   100.0    64000    9996   1.204  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511                 97.4     60.2     3.90    2748   100.0    64000   10226   1.194  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                     100.6     60.2     3.90    2747   100.0    64000   10212   1.194  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation         105.9     61.4     3.98    2745    99.2    64000   10496   1.188  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                      95.0     58.3     3.78    2742    99.9    64000   10229   1.197  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                        95.0     58.3     3.78    2742    99.9    64000   10229   1.197  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365                       102.5     59.1     3.83    2735   100.0    64000    9449   1.202  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                        110.0     66.2     4.29    2728    98.0    60804   10785   1.198  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 *C                        99.6     59.7     3.87    2725    99.1    64000   10277   1.190  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                        102.9     59.7     3.87    2725    99.1    64000   10277   1.190  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation          102.9     59.7     3.87    2725    99.1    64000   10277   1.190  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 *C*T                97.3     57.6     3.73    2724   100.0    64000    9879   1.206  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC *T                106.2     62.3     4.03    2724    97.7    64000   10401   1.186  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP *C                       100.1     57.4     3.72    2723   100.0    64000    9740   1.202  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation         100.1     57.4     3.72    2723   100.0    64000    9737   1.202  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                           110.0     62.0     4.02    2721    97.6    58316   10933   1.222  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                       99.3     57.6     3.73    2720   100.0    64000    9688   1.218  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon LVR                         97.6     56.6     3.67    2719   100.0    64000    9716   1.199  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                       105.4     61.8     4.00    2716    99.7    64000   10082   1.208  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT *C ~approximation    110.0     65.0     4.21    2713    96.0    61359   10772   1.201  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 *T                   110.0     62.0     4.02    2712    97.6    63039   10366   1.194  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                           105.0     58.3     3.78    2707   100.0    64000    9522   1.211  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                      108.7     63.0     4.08    2706   100.0    64000    9777   1.219  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780             103.5     63.3     4.10    2704    99.1    64000   10025   1.193  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT *C ~approximation    100.4     59.1     3.83    2704    99.8    64000    9887   1.203  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N565 *C*T               110.0     65.5     4.25    2703    97.2    56442   11183   1.262  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 *C              110.0     63.4     4.11    2699   100.0    54393   10698   1.260
Rottweil R904                      103.7     59.3     3.84    2695    98.4    64000   10008   1.195  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron *C*T              107.3     60.6     3.92    2688    97.9    64000   10079   1.194  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World SW4350               99.7     57.2     3.70    2688    99.9    64000    9704   1.213  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070                          99.7     57.2     3.70    2688    99.9    64000    9704   1.213  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 *C                  97.2     57.5     3.73    2683   100.0    64000    9215   1.205  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                102.8     57.6     3.74    2682   100.0    64000    8950   1.204  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165 *C                 110.0     63.1     4.09    2682    99.4    62405    9800   1.211  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                        92.4     54.7     3.55    2680   100.0    64000    9386   1.214  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old                       92.7     54.4     3.52    2667   100.0    64000    9028   1.225  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3                          92.7     54.4     3.52    2667   100.0    64000    9028   1.225  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361                       102.5     63.3     4.10    2667    97.7    64000    9825   1.205  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7                          97.3     55.4     3.59    2666    99.7    64000    9546   1.210  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907                       97.3     55.4     3.59    2666    99.7    64000    9546   1.210  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                        94.2     55.4     3.59    2665    99.7    64000    9539   1.210  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Long Rifle           98.5     55.9     3.62    2664   100.0    64000    9316   1.215  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065                          98.5     55.9     3.62    2664   100.0    64000    9316   1.215  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903                       94.8     54.4     3.52    2662   100.0    64000    8943   1.225  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355                        95.0     53.9     3.49    2659   100.0    64000    8969   1.219  ! Near Maximum !
 
Code: 
Cartridge          : .300 WSM (CIP)
Bullet             : .308, 208, Barnes 'LRX' BT 30311
Useable Case Capaci: 65.842 grain H2O = 4.275 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.860 inch = 72.64 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 64000 psi, or 441 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

8 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26 *C              104.3     68.0     4.41    2899   100.0    64000   10981   1.208  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP *C                       105.1     66.5     4.31    2874   100.0    64000   11132   1.209  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 *C                 106.8     66.2     4.29    2867    98.7    64000   11459   1.206  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517                109.4     70.9     4.59    2862    99.3    64000   11228   1.197  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12                  109.2     70.8     4.59    2862    99.3    64000   11207   1.197  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                    107.1     69.1     4.48    2859    97.6    64000   11542   1.211  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 76 *C               110.0     71.8     4.66    2858   100.0    58076   11785   1.241  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                       105.2     65.6     4.25    2848    99.0    64000   11042   1.199  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 *C                    107.0     65.7     4.26    2843    99.7    64000   10992   1.213  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation       107.0     65.7     4.26    2843    99.7    64000   10992   1.213  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 *C              107.0     65.7     4.26    2843    99.7    64000   10992   1.213  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15                        109.9     66.0     4.28    2842    99.6    64000   11012   1.213  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                     109.9     66.0     4.28    2842    99.6    64000   11012   1.213  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70 *C                98.2     63.5     4.11    2840   100.0    64000   10307   1.204  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                        106.1     65.1     4.22    2833    98.9    64000   10957   1.199  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60 *T                95.3     60.7     3.93    2828   100.0    64000    9834   1.207  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                        110.0     69.3     4.49    2823    99.0    64000   10790   1.197  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                     106.6     70.4     4.56    2822    99.9    64000   10463   1.204  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                           110.0     64.9     4.20    2814    98.7    61444   10962   1.221  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                      108.2     65.2     4.22    2807    98.6    64000   10712   1.216  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23 *C *T           109.1     64.8     4.20    2807   100.0    64000    9777   1.219  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP36 ZT *C *T               109.1     64.8     4.20    2807   100.0    64000    9777   1.219  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 *T               94.2     60.0     3.89    2806   100.0    64000    9763   1.216  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17                            94.2     60.0     3.89    2806   100.0    64000    9763   1.216  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RL16 TZ *C *T                99.3     58.7     3.80    2803   100.0    64000    9736   1.209  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 *C *T            99.3     58.7     3.80    2803   100.0    64000    9736   1.209  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT *C ~approximation    109.8     68.0     4.40    2799    97.2    64000   10839   1.204  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N555 *C*T               105.8     63.0     4.08    2799   100.0    64000    9897   1.240  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N565 *C*T               110.0     68.6     4.44    2799    98.4    60057   11222   1.257  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                        103.0     62.2     4.03    2797    99.5    64000   10386   1.207  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 *C              103.6     62.9     4.07    2796    99.6    64000   10458   1.215  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518                 99.9     62.6     4.06    2793   100.0    64000   10153   1.221  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511                 95.9     62.0     4.02    2790   100.0    64000   10070   1.222  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation         104.3     63.3     4.10    2790    99.5    64000   10383   1.216  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                      99.1     62.1     4.02    2789   100.0    64000   10057   1.222  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62                   97.7     62.1     4.03    2788   100.0    64000    9841   1.233  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 *C              110.0     66.4     4.30    2788   100.0    57484   10577   1.258  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                      93.6     60.1     3.89    2785   100.0    64000   10085   1.224  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                        93.6     60.1     3.89    2785   100.0    64000   10085   1.224  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365                       100.8     60.9     3.94    2772   100.0    64000    9308   1.232  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                        101.4     61.6     3.99    2771    99.4    64000   10175   1.218  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 *C                        98.2     61.6     3.99    2771    99.4    64000   10175   1.218  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation          101.4     61.6     3.99    2771    99.4    64000   10175   1.218  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 *T                   108.9     64.2     4.16    2771    98.3    64000   10327   1.213  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC *T                104.7     64.2     4.16    2771    98.3    64000   10327   1.213  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 *C*T                95.8     59.4     3.85    2765   100.0    64000    9736   1.234  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP *C                        98.6     59.2     3.83    2764   100.0    64000    9597   1.230  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation          98.6     59.2     3.84    2763   100.0    64000    9595   1.230  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                       103.8     63.7     4.13    2760    99.9    64000    9955   1.235  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon LVR                         96.1     58.3     3.78    2760   100.0    64000    9575   1.226  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                       97.7     59.3     3.84    2759   100.0    64000    9542   1.247  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780             102.0     65.3     4.23    2750    99.5    64000    9927   1.221  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                      107.0     65.0     4.21    2748   100.0    64000    9627   1.248  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT *C ~approximation     99.0     61.0     3.95    2747    99.9    64000    9762   1.231  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                           103.4     60.1     3.90    2746   100.0    64000    9381   1.239  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165 *C                 109.2     65.5     4.25    2745    99.7    64000    9724   1.226  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                      102.2     61.2     3.96    2741    98.8    64000    9928   1.221  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron *C*T              105.9     62.5     4.05    2736    98.4    64000   10010   1.220  ! Near Maximum !
 
Thanks Dr Mike, much appreciated!

Wow, that’s really surprising on the AI
 
DrMike said:
Code: 
Cartridge          : .300 WSM (CIP)
Bullet             : .308, 208, Barnes 'LRX' BT 30311
Useable Case Capaci: 65.842 grain H2O = 4.275 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.860 inch = 72.64 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 64000 psi, or 441 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

8 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26 *C              104.3     68.0     4.41    2899   100.0    64000   10981   1.208  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP *C                       105.1     66.5     4.31    2874   100.0    64000   11132   1.209  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 *C                 106.8     66.2     4.29    2867    98.7    64000   11459   1.206  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517                109.4     70.9     4.59    2862    99.3    64000   11228   1.197  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12                  109.2     70.8     4.59    2862    99.3    64000   11207   1.197  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                    107.1     69.1     4.48    2859    97.6    64000   11542   1.211  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 76 *C               110.0     71.8     4.66    2858   100.0    58076   11785   1.241  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                       105.2     65.6     4.25    2848    99.0    64000   11042   1.199  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 *C                    107.0     65.7     4.26    2843    99.7    64000   10992   1.213  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation       107.0     65.7     4.26    2843    99.7    64000   10992   1.213  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 *C              107.0     65.7     4.26    2843    99.7    64000   10992   1.213  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15                        109.9     66.0     4.28    2842    99.6    64000   11012   1.213  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                     109.9     66.0     4.28    2842    99.6    64000   11012   1.213  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70 *C                98.2     63.5     4.11    2840   100.0    64000   10307   1.204  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                        106.1     65.1     4.22    2833    98.9    64000   10957   1.199  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60 *T                95.3     60.7     3.93    2828   100.0    64000    9834   1.207  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                        110.0     69.3     4.49    2823    99.0    64000   10790   1.197  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                     106.6     70.4     4.56    2822    99.9    64000   10463   1.204  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                           110.0     64.9     4.20    2814    98.7    61444   10962   1.221  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                      108.2     65.2     4.22    2807    98.6    64000   10712   1.216  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23 *C *T           109.1     64.8     4.20    2807   100.0    64000    9777   1.219  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP36 ZT *C *T               109.1     64.8     4.20    2807   100.0    64000    9777   1.219  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 *T               94.2     60.0     3.89    2806   100.0    64000    9763   1.216  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17                            94.2     60.0     3.89    2806   100.0    64000    9763   1.216  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RL16 TZ *C *T                99.3     58.7     3.80    2803   100.0    64000    9736   1.209  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 *C *T            99.3     58.7     3.80    2803   100.0    64000    9736   1.209  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT *C ~approximation    109.8     68.0     4.40    2799    97.2    64000   10839   1.204  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N555 *C*T               105.8     63.0     4.08    2799   100.0    64000    9897   1.240  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N565 *C*T               110.0     68.6     4.44    2799    98.4    60057   11222   1.257  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                        103.0     62.2     4.03    2797    99.5    64000   10386   1.207  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 *C              103.6     62.9     4.07    2796    99.6    64000   10458   1.215  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518                 99.9     62.6     4.06    2793   100.0    64000   10153   1.221  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511                 95.9     62.0     4.02    2790   100.0    64000   10070   1.222  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation         104.3     63.3     4.10    2790    99.5    64000   10383   1.216  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                      99.1     62.1     4.02    2789   100.0    64000   10057   1.222  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62                   97.7     62.1     4.03    2788   100.0    64000    9841   1.233  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 *C              110.0     66.4     4.30    2788   100.0    57484   10577   1.258  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                      93.6     60.1     3.89    2785   100.0    64000   10085   1.224  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                        93.6     60.1     3.89    2785   100.0    64000   10085   1.224  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365                       100.8     60.9     3.94    2772   100.0    64000    9308   1.232  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                        101.4     61.6     3.99    2771    99.4    64000   10175   1.218  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 *C                        98.2     61.6     3.99    2771    99.4    64000   10175   1.218  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation          101.4     61.6     3.99    2771    99.4    64000   10175   1.218  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 *T                   108.9     64.2     4.16    2771    98.3    64000   10327   1.213  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC *T                104.7     64.2     4.16    2771    98.3    64000   10327   1.213  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 *C*T                95.8     59.4     3.85    2765   100.0    64000    9736   1.234  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP *C                        98.6     59.2     3.83    2764   100.0    64000    9597   1.230  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation          98.6     59.2     3.84    2763   100.0    64000    9595   1.230  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                       103.8     63.7     4.13    2760    99.9    64000    9955   1.235  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon LVR                         96.1     58.3     3.78    2760   100.0    64000    9575   1.226  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                       97.7     59.3     3.84    2759   100.0    64000    9542   1.247  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780             102.0     65.3     4.23    2750    99.5    64000    9927   1.221  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                      107.0     65.0     4.21    2748   100.0    64000    9627   1.248  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT *C ~approximation     99.0     61.0     3.95    2747    99.9    64000    9762   1.231  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                           103.4     60.1     3.90    2746   100.0    64000    9381   1.239  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165 *C                 109.2     65.5     4.25    2745    99.7    64000    9724   1.226  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                      102.2     61.2     3.96    2741    98.8    64000    9928   1.221  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron *C*T              105.9     62.5     4.05    2736    98.4    64000   10010   1.220  ! Near Maximum !
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did quickload finally add Leverevolution? If not, what is LVR?
 
JD338 said:
They are pretty similar. Advantage might be the 30-06AI as you can also shoot factory 30-06 ammo in a pinch.

JD338
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I’m thinking the same thing. Originally I was looking at the 175lrx and the 200AB(if I could ever find any) but as I started down the rabbit hole with the 208 more just out of curiosity.

I was looking at down range velocities with my original guess of 2700. At 5000ft elevation the 208 would still be going right at 2000fps. That’s really further than I’d ever really consider shooting at an animal. I was thinking that getting 2700 was being really optimistic but it appears that to be absolutely reasonable to get atleast that.

Very interesting.

Thanks again

Matt
 
The 208 has good BC. If you are going to use on deer, I'd plant it right in the shoulder for maximum trauma. A buddy shot a big doe out back a couple weeks ago with a 300 WM and 175 TTSX at 40 yards. Solid double lung hit in and out behind the shoulders. She went about 175 yards before piling up. Golf ball size holes inside the slats but I have no clue how she could have gone that far.
My impression is the heavy weight monos should be used on elk sized game.

JD338
 
RL-22 worked well in my 30-06 with 200gr+ bullets. It might be easier to find.
 
No much difference would there be between the standard 30-06 and the improved version with the same bullet? I wonder what real world/field difference would be and when it starts to make a noticeable difference.
 
Aussie Wanderer said:
No much difference would there be between the standard 30-06 and the improved version with the same bullet? I wonder what real world/field difference would be and when it starts to make a noticeable difference.
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Aussie, DrMike would have to run the numbers to get exact but I think it would greatly depend on what you meant by the “Standard” 30-06. If you mean stock off the shelf where you have a max COAL of 3.34-3.4 then I’m guessing there would be quite a bit. First a stock gun is likely to have a 1in 10 twist which would not stabilize the 208LRX and at that COAL I’m not sure that the 208 could be used, I think you should have to seat it to where the case neck is past the start of the olgive. If you could the bullet would be so far down into the case that it would have a great impact on useable case capacity. Barns data has the 200lrx at just over 2500fps with hunter and RL17 (I assume that their max is at a chamber pressure of 60k). I’d suspect it would take atleast another 50-100 fps due to the extra weight and lost case capacity.

Now, if you switch out the barrel to the faster twist, you mod the mag and throat for the longer COAL, and went to 64k chamber pressure but just kept with the “standard” 30-06 shoulder angle and body taper I suspect that you would come within about 50 fps or so from DrMikes numbers above as t he 06 AI only gives you about 4% more case capacity. The biggies advantage I see that it gives you is the shaper shoulder and less body taper will handle the 64k pressure better with less case stretch which will translate into longer case life and less trimming.

-Matt
 
DrMike,

Would you mind running g 2 more bullet combos in the 30-06AI? 175lrx @ COAL of 3.547 and the 200lrx at a COAL of 3.675. Both at the same max pressure of 64k and 24” barrel

Thanks in advance

Matt
 
Code: 
Cartridge          : .30-06 Ack Imp
Bullet             : .308, 175, Barnes 'LRX'BT 30318
Useable Case Capaci: 64.861 grain H2O = 4.211 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.675 inch = 93.35 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 64000 psi, or 441 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

3 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26 *C              109.7     70.5     4.57    3112   100.0    64000   11766   1.086  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP *C                       110.0     68.6     4.45    3063    99.1    63123   11780   1.095  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60 *T               100.3     62.9     4.07    3051   100.0    64000   10533   1.085  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70 *C               103.0     65.6     4.25    3045   100.0    64000   11038   1.086  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 *T               99.3     62.3     4.03    3029   100.0    64000   10471   1.092  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17                            99.3     62.3     4.03    3029   100.0    64000   10471   1.092  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                       110.0     67.6     4.38    3026    96.7    63971   11459   1.085  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RL16 TZ *C *T               104.4     60.8     3.94    3018   100.0    64000   10461   1.088  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 *C *T           104.4     60.8     3.94    3018   100.0    64000   10461   1.088  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62                  102.8     64.4     4.17    3000   100.0    64000   10573   1.110  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365                       106.4     63.3     4.10    2998   100.0    64000    9986   1.105  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518                104.9     64.7     4.20    2995    99.5    64000   10803   1.100  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511                100.7     64.1     4.16    2994    99.6    64000   10741   1.101  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                     104.0     64.2     4.16    2992    99.6    64000   10725   1.101  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 *C                 110.0     67.2     4.35    2991    95.6    59767   11702   1.123  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 *C              108.6     64.9     4.21    2989    98.0    64000   10961   1.096  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                        98.3     62.2     4.03    2987    99.2    64000   10721   1.104  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                      98.3     62.2     4.03    2987    99.2    64000   10721   1.104  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                        107.8     64.1     4.15    2985    97.9    64000   10863   1.090  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                        110.0     66.5     4.31    2983    96.2    62210   11263   1.099  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation         109.4     65.4     4.24    2981    98.0    64000   10875   1.097  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N555 *C*T               110.0     64.5     4.18    2975   100.0    60808   10593   1.141  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP *C                       103.6     61.3     3.97    2974   100.0    64000   10297   1.108  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation         103.6     61.3     3.97    2974   100.0    64000   10294   1.108  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 *C*T               100.6     61.5     3.98    2974   100.0    64000   10433   1.113  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                      102.8     61.5     3.98    2971   100.0    64000   10261   1.123  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon LVR                        100.9     60.4     3.91    2968    99.9    64000   10270   1.105  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 *C                    110.0     66.5     4.31    2967    97.4    59013   11346   1.133  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 *C              110.0     66.5     4.31    2967    97.4    59013   11346   1.133  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation       110.0     66.5     4.31    2967    97.4    59013   11346   1.133  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                    110.0     69.9     4.53    2966    93.7    58923   11646   1.134  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                        106.2     63.5     4.11    2961    97.7    64000   10641   1.099  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 *C                       102.8     63.5     4.11    2961    97.7    64000   10641   1.099  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation          106.2     63.5     4.11    2961    97.7    64000   10641   1.099  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                     110.0     71.6     4.64    2958    98.1    61019   10887   1.111  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                           108.7     62.3     4.03    2956   100.0    64000   10069   1.117  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                       108.8     65.8     4.26    2953    98.7    64000   10498   1.115  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC *T                109.4     66.1     4.28    2950    95.9    64000   10662   1.096  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT *C ~approximation    103.7     63.0     4.08    2942    99.0    64000   10317   1.111  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780             106.7     67.2     4.36    2935    97.7    64000   10347   1.101  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                106.4     61.5     3.99    2935   100.0    64000    9458   1.108  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 *C                 100.5     61.3     3.97    2929   100.0    64000    9742   1.111  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070                         103.0     60.9     3.95    2926    99.2    64000   10160   1.121  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World SW4350              103.0     60.9     3.95    2926    99.2    64000   10160   1.121  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                        95.5     58.3     3.78    2925    99.9    64000    9918   1.120  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                      106.9     63.0     4.08    2925    96.8    64000   10318   1.104  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3                          96.0     58.0     3.76    2920   100.0    64000    9546   1.130  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old                       96.0     58.0     3.76    2920   100.0    64000    9546   1.130  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903                       98.2     58.1     3.76    2915   100.0    64000    9464   1.130  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355                        98.3     57.5     3.72    2909   100.0    64000    9479   1.125  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065                         101.7     59.5     3.85    2904    99.7    64000    9803   1.122  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Long Rifle          101.7     59.5     3.85    2904    99.7    64000    9803   1.122  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907                      100.4     58.9     3.82    2901    98.7    64000    9950   1.118  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7                         100.4     58.9     3.82    2901    98.7    64000    9950   1.118  ! Near Maximum !
 
Code: 
Cartridge          : .30-06 Ack Imp
Bullet             : .308, 200, Barnes 'LRX' BT 30374
Useable Case Capaci: 62.474 grain H2O = 4.056 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.675 inch = 93.35 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 64000 psi, or 441 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

8 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26 *C              107.4     66.5     4.31    2911   100.0    64000   11181   1.156  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP *C                       108.1     65.0     4.21    2881    99.8    64000   11305   1.158  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 *C                 109.8     64.6     4.19    2866    97.7    64000   11513   1.157  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                    110.0     67.3     4.36    2855    96.4    63799   11546   1.163  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70 *C               100.9     61.9     4.01    2848   100.0    64000   10481   1.155  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 *C                    110.0     64.0     4.15    2844    99.1    63752   11096   1.165  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 *C              110.0     64.0     4.15    2844    99.1    63752   11096   1.165  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation       110.0     64.0     4.15    2844    99.1    63752   11096   1.165  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60 *T                98.1     59.3     3.84    2844   100.0    64000    9995   1.156  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                       108.0     63.9     4.14    2843    98.0    64000   11087   1.153  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                        108.8     63.4     4.11    2827    97.9    64000   10986   1.153  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17                            97.1     58.6     3.80    2822   100.0    64000    9929   1.165  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 *T               97.1     58.6     3.80    2822   100.0    64000    9929   1.165  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                     109.2     68.5     4.44    2819    99.4    64000   10564   1.156  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 *C *T           102.2     57.3     3.71    2815   100.0    64000    9903   1.160  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RL16 TZ *C *T               102.2     57.3     3.71    2815   100.0    64000    9903   1.160  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N555 *C*T               109.0     61.6     3.99    2813   100.0    64000   10079   1.188  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518                102.7     61.1     3.96    2800    99.9    64000   10315   1.171  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62                  100.6     60.7     3.93    2800   100.0    64000   10018   1.182  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 *C              106.4     61.3     3.97    2799    98.9    64000   10546   1.167  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511                 98.6     60.5     3.92    2798   100.0    64000   10239   1.172  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                        105.7     60.5     3.92    2797    98.9    64000   10462   1.160  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                     101.9     60.6     3.93    2797   100.0    64000   10225   1.172  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation         107.2     61.7     4.00    2792    98.9    64000   10468   1.168  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                      96.2     58.6     3.80    2791    99.8    64000   10233   1.176  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                        96.2     58.6     3.80    2791    99.8    64000   10233   1.176  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12                  110.0     67.6     4.38    2790    97.7    59324   11124   1.190  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365                       103.9     59.5     3.86    2790   100.0    64000    9467   1.179  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517                110.0     67.6     4.38    2785    97.6    58980   11128   1.193  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 *C*T                98.5     58.0     3.76    2775   100.0    64000    9897   1.185  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                      110.0     62.9     4.07    2775    97.2    61578   10664   1.187  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP *C                       101.4     57.8     3.74    2774   100.0    64000    9758   1.181  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation         101.4     57.8     3.74    2774   100.0    64000    9756   1.181  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation          104.1     60.0     3.88    2772    98.7    64000   10245   1.170  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                        104.1     60.0     3.88    2772    98.7    64000   10245   1.170  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 *C                       100.8     60.0     3.88    2772    98.7    64000   10245   1.170  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                      100.6     57.9     3.75    2771   100.0    64000    9710   1.196  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon LVR                         98.8     56.9     3.69    2769   100.0    64000    9737   1.177  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC *T                107.4     62.5     4.05    2768    97.2    64000   10338   1.166  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP36 ZT *C *T               110.0     62.0     4.02    2767   100.0    59314    9857   1.205  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23 *C *T           110.0     62.0     4.02    2767   100.0    59314    9857   1.205  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                       106.6     62.1     4.02    2764    99.5    64000   10068   1.186  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                     110.0     62.7     4.06    2764    98.3    57905   10902   1.216  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15                        110.0     62.7     4.06    2764    98.3    57905   10902   1.216  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                           106.4     58.7     3.80    2757   100.0    64000    9540   1.189  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                      110.0     63.4     4.11    2755    99.9    63984    9785   1.197  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT *C ~approximation    101.7     59.4     3.85    2751    99.6    64000    9878   1.182  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780             104.6     63.5     4.12    2750    98.8    64000    9986   1.172  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                      104.8     59.5     3.86    2740    98.0    64000    9961   1.174  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World SW4350              100.9     57.5     3.72    2735    99.8    64000    9704   1.193  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070                         100.9     57.5     3.72    2735    99.8    64000    9704   1.193  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                104.1     58.0     3.76    2733   100.0    64000    8963   1.181  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 *C                  98.4     57.8     3.75    2733   100.0    64000    9230   1.184  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron *C*T              108.5     60.8     3.94    2732    97.4    64000   10020   1.174  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                        110.0     65.8     4.26    2732    97.0    58299   10621   1.202  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                        93.5     55.0     3.57    2730   100.0    64000    9403   1.193  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                           110.0     61.6     3.99    2727    96.6    55907   10761   1.225  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 *T                   110.0     61.6     3.99    2722    96.7    60513   10202   1.195  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT *C ~approximation    110.0     64.6     4.19    2720    94.8    59030   10563   1.202  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3                          93.9     54.7     3.54    2719   100.0    64000    9043   1.204  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old                       93.9     54.7     3.54    2719   100.0    64000    9043   1.204  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903                       96.0     54.7     3.54    2714   100.0    64000    8959   1.203  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7                          98.4     55.6     3.60    2712    99.4    64000    9530   1.189  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907                       98.4     55.6     3.60    2712    99.4    64000    9530   1.189  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065                          99.6     56.1     3.64    2712   100.0    64000    9329   1.194  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Long Rifle           99.6     56.1     3.64    2712   100.0    64000    9329   1.194  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                        95.3     55.7     3.61    2711    99.4    64000    9524   1.189  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361                       103.6     63.6     4.12    2710    97.2    64000    9763   1.185  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355                        96.2     54.2     3.51    2710   100.0    64000    8982   1.198  ! Near Maximum !
 
I noticed that I got the OAL for the 175 grain LRS wrong. Here is the corrected data.

Code: 
Cartridge          : .30-06 Ack Imp
Bullet             : .308, 175, Barnes 'LRX'BT 30318
Useable Case Capaci: 62.445 grain H2O = 4.054 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.547 inch = 90.09 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 64000 psi, or 441 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

2 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26 *C              110.0     68.1     4.41    3058   100.0    61264   11407   1.107  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60 *T               101.6     61.3     3.97    3036   100.0    64000   10223   1.086  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70 *C               104.2     63.9     4.14    3027    99.9    64000   10711   1.087  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17                           100.6     60.8     3.94    3015   100.0    64000   10166   1.093  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 *T              100.6     60.8     3.94    3015   100.0    64000   10166   1.093  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RL16 TZ *C *T               105.7     59.3     3.84    3002   100.0    64000   10153   1.090  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 *C *T           105.7     59.3     3.84    3002   100.0    64000   10153   1.090  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP *C                       110.0     66.1     4.28    3001    98.5    60070   11319   1.120  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365                       107.9     61.8     4.00    2987   100.0    64000    9693   1.104  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62                  104.2     62.9     4.07    2986   100.0    64000   10264   1.110  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518                106.2     63.1     4.09    2979    99.3    64000   10471   1.101  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511                102.0     62.6     4.05    2978    99.5    64000   10414   1.102  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                     105.4     62.7     4.06    2976    99.5    64000   10398   1.102  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 *C              110.0     63.3     4.10    2970    97.7    64000   10602   1.098  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                      99.6     60.6     3.93    2970    99.0    64000   10384   1.106  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                        99.6     60.6     3.93    2970    99.0    64000   10384   1.106  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                        109.0     62.4     4.04    2964    97.5    64000   10498   1.093  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                       110.0     65.0     4.21    2962    95.7    61195   10948   1.109  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP *C                       105.0     59.8     3.87    2959   100.0    64000    9995   1.109  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation         105.0     59.8     3.87    2959   100.0    64000    9992   1.109  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 *C*T               101.9     60.0     3.89    2958    99.9    64000   10127   1.114  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                      104.2     60.0     3.89    2956   100.0    64000    9959   1.124  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon LVR                        102.2     58.9     3.81    2951    99.8    64000    9960   1.107  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation         110.0     63.3     4.10    2943    97.5    62566   10464   1.110  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 *C                       104.1     61.9     4.01    2942    97.4    64000   10287   1.101  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                        107.5     61.9     4.01    2942    97.4    64000   10287   1.101  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation          107.5     61.9     4.01    2942    97.4    64000   10287   1.101  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                           110.0     60.6     3.93    2937   100.0    63692    9768   1.120  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                       110.0     64.0     4.15    2930    98.4    63543   10147   1.120  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 *C                 110.0     64.7     4.19    2928    94.5    57072   11165   1.148  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT *C ~approximation    105.0     61.4     3.98    2923    98.8    64000    9984   1.113  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                        110.0     64.0     4.15    2921    95.2    59624   10751   1.123  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                107.8     60.0     3.89    2920   100.0    64000    9175   1.108  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N555 *C*T               110.0     62.1     4.02    2920   100.0    57721   10245   1.167  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780             107.9     65.5     4.24    2915    97.4    64000    9997   1.103  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 *C                 101.8     59.8     3.87    2913    99.9    64000    9449   1.113  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                        96.7     56.9     3.68    2909    99.9    64000    9618   1.123  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC *T                110.0     64.0     4.15    2909    95.2    62579   10230   1.109  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070                         104.2     59.3     3.85    2909    99.1    64000    9837   1.123  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World SW4350              104.2     59.3     3.85    2909    99.1    64000    9837   1.123  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 *C                    110.0     64.0     4.15    2906    96.6    56288   10856   1.158  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 *C              110.0     64.0     4.15    2906    96.6    56288   10856   1.158  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation       110.0     64.0     4.15    2906    96.6    56288   10856   1.158  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3                          97.3     56.6     3.67    2906   100.0    64000    9264   1.131  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old                       97.3     56.6     3.67    2906   100.0    64000    9264   1.131  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                      108.1     61.4     3.98    2904    96.4    64000    9961   1.107  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                    110.0     67.3     4.36    2901    92.4    56105   11088   1.160  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903                       99.4     56.6     3.67    2900   100.0    64000    9182   1.131  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355                        99.5     56.0     3.63    2894   100.0    64000    9196   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                     110.0     69.0     4.47    2892    97.2    58065   10432   1.138  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065                         102.9     58.0     3.76    2886    99.6    64000    9497   1.125  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Long Rifle          102.9     58.0     3.76    2886    99.6    64000    9497   1.125  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907                      101.5     57.4     3.72    2882    98.5    64000    9622   1.121  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7                         101.5     57.4     3.72    2882    98.5    64000    9622   1.121  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                        98.3     57.4     3.72    2881    98.5    64000    9615   1.121  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 7                    91.2     56.3     3.65    2879    99.8    64000    9273   1.126  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.6                        92.2     54.7     3.55    2871   100.0    64000    8688   1.136  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Match Rifle          92.2     54.7     3.55    2871   100.0    64000    8688   1.136  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2520                       90.1     54.7     3.55    2871   100.0    64000    8688   1.136  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361                       106.8     65.5     4.24    2868    95.4    64000    9715   1.118  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064                       97.0     54.6     3.54    2866   100.0    64000    8680   1.153  ! Near Maximum !
 
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