Quickload help?

[Silentstalker]

So I bought some 90 gr. Nosler BSB bullets to try in the .270 Win. Would one of you be willing to run some quickload for h4831, varget, and h4895?

Thats what I have in stock. Any other powder suggestions that might work better? Thank you!

 

[DrMike]

That particular bullet is not in the data set at this time. Ergo, it isn't possible to run it. I'm sure we could run an approximation, but it would only be an approximation.

 

[Silentstalker]

Yeah I have not been able to find anything on it. Would it be time consuming to do an approximation? Im just looking for a couple starting points to start working up with. There is a guy testing them in the bullet test forum. I will try asking him his starting point and powder of choice. Thanks!

 

[SJB358]

Those powders look great. Here is what QL shows for that bullet with your available powders.

Cartridge : .270 Win. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .277, 90, Nosler Bonded Perf 38140
Useable Case Capaci: 66.618 grain H2O = 4.325 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.300 inch = 83.82 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Hodgdon H4831

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.0 99 59.08 2951 1741 36847 10512 79.7 1.134
-09.0 100 59.73 2990 1787 38155 10698 80.5 1.115
-08.0 101 60.39 3029 1833 39515 10883 81.3 1.097
-07.0 102 61.05 3068 1881 40930 11066 82.1 1.079
-06.0 103 61.70 3107 1929 42399 11248 83.0 1.061
-05.0 105 62.36 3146 1978 43933 11428 83.8 1.043
-04.0 106 63.01 3186 2029 45527 11606 84.6 1.026
-03.0 107 63.67 3226 2080 47188 11782 85.3 1.009
-02.0 108 64.33 3266 2132 48917 11955 86.1 0.992
-01.0 109 64.98 3307 2186 50720 12126 86.9 0.975
+00.0 110 65.64 3348 2240 52600 12293 87.6 0.959
+01.0 111 66.30 3389 2295 54561 12457 88.3 0.943
+02.0 112 66.95 3430 2351 56608 12619 89.0 0.927 ! Near Maximum !
+03.0 113 67.61 3472 2409 58745 12776 89.7 0.911 ! Near Maximum !
+04.0 114 68.27 3513 2467 60978 12929 90.4 0.896 ! Near Maximum !
+05.0 116 68.92 3555 2526 63313 13079 91.1 0.881 ! Near Maximum !

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 110 65.64 3572 2550 63230 13024 94.8 0.882 ! Near Maximum !
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 110 65.64 3084 1901 43168 11058 77.5 1.055


Cartridge : .270 Win. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .277, 90, Nosler Bonded Perf 38140
Useable Case Capaci: 66.618 grain H2O = 4.325 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.300 inch = 83.82 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Hodgdon VARGET

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.0 89 52.92 3223 2076 46640 11318 95.6 1.016
-09.0 90 53.51 3257 2120 48101 11445 96.1 1.001
-08.0 91 54.10 3290 2164 49606 11568 96.5 0.987
-07.0 92 54.68 3324 2208 51156 11687 96.9 0.973
-06.0 93 55.27 3358 2253 52753 11803 97.2 0.959
-05.0 94 55.86 3391 2298 54398 11915 97.6 0.946
-04.0 95 56.45 3425 2344 56094 12023 97.9 0.933 ! Near Maximum !
-03.0 96 57.04 3458 2390 57840 12127 98.2 0.920 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 97 57.62 3491 2436 59641 12227 98.5 0.907 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 98 58.21 3524 2482 61496 12322 98.7 0.894 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 99 58.80 3558 2529 63409 12413 99.0 0.882 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 100 59.39 3591 2576 65381 12500 99.2 0.870 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 101 59.98 3623 2624 67415 12582 99.3 0.858 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0 102 60.56 3656 2671 69512 12659 99.5 0.846 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 103 61.15 3689 2719 71676 12731 99.6 0.835 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 104 61.74 3721 2768 73908 12799 99.8 0.824 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 99 58.80 3699 2734 73699 12174 100.0 0.824 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 99 58.80 3366 2264 53194 12116 94.2 0.957


Cartridge : .270 Win. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .277, 90, Nosler Bonded Perf 38140
Useable Case Capaci: 66.618 grain H2O = 4.325 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.300 inch = 83.82 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Hodgdon H4895

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.0 84 51.30 3253 2115 46643 11654 97.0 1.028
-09.0 84 51.87 3287 2159 48079 11773 97.4 1.013
-08.0 85 52.44 3320 2203 49556 11889 97.7 0.998
-07.0 86 53.01 3353 2247 51074 12000 98.0 0.984
-06.0 87 53.58 3386 2292 52635 12107 98.3 0.971
-05.0 88 54.15 3419 2337 54241 12210 98.6 0.957
-04.0 89 54.72 3452 2382 55892 12308 98.8 0.944 ! Near Maximum !
-03.0 90 55.29 3485 2427 57591 12402 99.1 0.931 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 91 55.86 3518 2473 59338 12491 99.3 0.918 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 92 56.43 3550 2519 61135 12576 99.4 0.905 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 93 57.00 3582 2565 62984 12656 99.6 0.893 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 94 57.57 3615 2611 64886 12730 99.7 0.881 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 95 58.14 3647 2658 66843 12801 99.8 0.869 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0 96 58.71 3679 2704 68858 12865 99.9 0.858 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 97 59.28 3710 2751 70931 12925 100.0 0.846 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 97 59.85 3742 2798 73065 12979 100.0 0.835 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 93 57.00 3720 2766 73524 12294 100.0 0.832 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 93 57.00 3389 2295 52458 12512 95.6 0.974

 

[DrMike]

Well, I'm bummed out, Scotty. My data set is lacking that Bonded Performance bullet. I'm going to have to look into this.

 

[SJB358]

Mike, have you tried refreshing your bullet file for .277" bullets. I'd bet a moose burger it'll probably pop in there if you search for bullets again! :grin:

 

[Silentstalker]

Thanks guys! That little 90 grainer will be fun to load up!

 

[DrMike]

Mike, have you tried refreshing your bullet file for .277" bullets. I'd bet a moose burger it'll probably pop in there if you search for bullets again! :grin:

Here is what happened. I bought my update disc in January and there was another update released in March. It added several powders (none of which are marketed in North America) and at least the Bonded Performance 277 Nosler. So, I'm hooped on this as I don't want to buy another update this soon just for this. Grumble, grumble, grumble.

 

[SJB358]

Dang! That stinks buddy! I must've gotten real lucky as I bought mine right around that timeframe as well. Better to be lucky than good somedays.

 

[DrMike]

Dang! That stinks buddy! I must've gotten real lucky as I bought mine right around that timeframe as well. Better to be lucky than good somedays.

That is true! :grin: Okay, so I won't use the Swiss powder or shoot a 90 grain BSB in my 270 WSM. Of course, I wonder what what else I may be missing. :roll:

 

[SJB358]

HA! Yeah, I would imagine you've got all you need.

Do you see any of those other powders up your way Mike? Rottweil or Swiss or any of the others!

 

[DrMike]

I have a few cans of Rottweil R905, but it is not common at all today. In fact, I haven't seen any for at least seven years. The powder I have is slowly parceled out; it is very similar to RL22 (so similar that it can be substituted). I have not seen any of the ReloadSwiss or NitroChemie. I'm told that ATK plans to market some of the Swiss powder, but I have no further intel on that to share.

 

[SJB358]

Gotcha, never thought about it until this. I wasn't sure if you saw powders we do not see down here.

 

[DrMike]

Gotcha, never thought about it until this. I wasn't sure if you saw powders we do not see down here.

Most of our powders are imported from the States. Though they are manufactured in Australia, Belgium, Sweden or Finland, almost all pass through the USA before being re-exported into Canada. I believe the Vhita Vuori powders are an exception. Even IMR, which is now a Canadian firm, is shipped to the USA before reimporting into Canada. Go figure!

 

[SJB358]

HA! Didn't know that. Pretty interesting stuff.

Speaking of powder, when is that powder container named the 358 Norma going to be ready to shoot Mike?

 

[DrMike]

HA! Didn't know that. Pretty interesting stuff.

Speaking of powder, when is that powder container named the 358 Norma going to be ready to shoot Mike?

Looking at a mid-July date now. There was some delay. Consequently, Gerry beat me to the draw on this one. If mine shoots near as good as his is shooting, I'll be a happy camper.

 

[SJB358]

Yeah, I believe your going to like it alot Mike. I love the Newton. I am resisting shooting mine a bunch till I get the new scope set up on it, but I do really enjoy the rifle alot.



Found this while digging around for the Mashburn stuff last night.

 

[DrMike]

I did see that in my Ackley book. That Newton has a lot of cool factor--a lot of cool. If there had been a reamer in the area so I didn't have to pay for one, I might well have moved that direction. I know, cheap of me. :grin:

 

[SJB358]

I did see that in my Ackley book. That Newton has a lot of cool factor--a lot of cool. If there had been a reamer in the area so I didn't have to pay for one, I might well have moved that direction. I know, cheap of me. :grin:

HA! That's alright. I know your going to really like the Norma though.

 

[DrMike]

I believe you are correct. :grin: Barrel was cut this past week.