QuickLoad questions thread...

Dwh7271":pvr5lz1t said:
2800 w a 77 gr isn't shabby at all. Especially with a 20" barrel. Wow.

Dwh, I like the way you think. I even like the stuff you haven't thought of yet.
 
Wyo,

Would you do me a favor and run the 77 Nosler CC in 556 for me using TAC and XBR, also from a 20 inch barrel?

203-B is available now at Sportsman's Warehouse so I can try all three powders. Maybe H4895 also.

thanks!
 
Happy loading!

Code:
Cartridge          : 5.56 mm NATO - 5.56 x 45 mm
Bullet             : .224, 77, Nosler CC HPBT 22421
Useable Case Capaci: 23.989 grain H2O = 1.558 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.260 inch = 57.40 mm
Barrel Length      : 20.0 inch = 508.0 mm
Powder             : Ramshot TAC

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   91    21.60   2439    1017   42492   7475     88.8    1.149
-09.0   92    21.84   2467    1041   43906   7576     89.4    1.131
-08.0   93    22.08   2495    1064   45371   7675     90.0    1.115
-07.0   94    22.32   2522    1088   46887   7772     90.5    1.098
-06.0   95    22.56   2550    1112   48458   7868     91.0    1.082
-05.0   96    22.80   2578    1136   50084   7962     91.6    1.066
-04.0   97    23.04   2606    1161   51770   8055     92.1    1.050
-03.0   98    23.28   2633    1186   53517   8145     92.6    1.035  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   99    23.52   2661    1211   55327   8233     93.0    1.020  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0  100    23.76   2689    1237   57205   8320     93.5    1.005  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  101    24.00   2717    1262   59153   8404     94.0    0.990  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  102    24.24   2745    1288   61174   8486     94.4    0.976  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0  103    24.48   2773    1315   63272   8565     94.8    0.961  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  104    24.72   2801    1342   65450   8642     95.2    0.947  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  105    24.96   2829    1369   67713   8717     95.6    0.934  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  106    25.20   2857    1396   70064   8789     96.0    0.920  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    101    24.00   2790    1331   64455   8517     96.6    0.954  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    101    24.00   2636    1188   53959   8208     90.6    1.031  ! Near Maximum !

Code:
Cartridge          : 5.56 mm NATO - 5.56 x 45 mm
Bullet             : .224, 77, Nosler CC HPBT 22421
Useable Case Capaci: 23.989 grain H2O = 1.558 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.260 inch = 57.40 mm
Barrel Length      : 20.0 inch = 508.0 mm
Powder             : IMR 8208 XBR

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   90    19.80   2428    1008   40604   7345     93.9    1.167
-09.0   91    20.02   2454    1029   41875   7431     94.3    1.150
-08.0   92    20.24   2479    1051   43186   7515     94.8    1.134
-07.0   92    20.46   2505    1073   44539   7597     95.2    1.119
-06.0   93    20.68   2531    1095   45934   7678     95.6    1.103
-05.0   94    20.90   2556    1117   47367   7756     96.0    1.088
-04.0   95    21.12   2582    1140   48858   7832     96.3    1.073
-03.0   96    21.34   2607    1162   50391   7906     96.7    1.058
-02.0   97    21.56   2633    1185   51973   7978     97.0    1.044
-01.0   98    21.78   2658    1208   53606   8047     97.3    1.029  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   99    22.00   2684    1232   55292   8114     97.6    1.015  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  100    22.22   2709    1255   57033   8178     97.9    1.002  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0  101    22.44   2734    1279   58831   8240     98.2    0.988  ! Near Maximum !
+03.0  102    22.66   2760    1302   60688   8299     98.4    0.975  ! Near Maximum !
+04.0  103    22.88   2785    1326   62608   8355     98.7    0.962  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  104    23.10   2810    1350   64592   8409     98.9    0.949  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     99    22.00   2748    1291   60275   8103     99.2    0.979  ! Near Maximum !
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     99    22.00   2610    1165   50391   8032     95.1    1.057

Code:
Cartridge          : 5.56 mm NATO - 5.56 x 45 mm
Bullet             : .224, 77, Nosler CC HPBT 22421
Useable Case Capaci: 23.989 grain H2O = 1.558 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.260 inch = 57.40 mm
Barrel Length      : 20.0 inch = 508.0 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Barrel Time: 1.022 milliseconds
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Accurate 2495                      103.7     22.4     1.45    2765   100.0    57648    8163   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064                      109.6     23.7     1.54    2763    99.8    57109    8481   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17                 108.8     25.2     1.64    2730    95.5    51726    9286   1.022
Norma 203 old                      107.8     24.1     1.56    2729    97.3    54757    8694   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 3031                           104.6     21.6     1.40    2728   100.0    52960    8199   1.022
Accurate 2520                      100.2     23.4     1.51    2724    99.0    55140    8346   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895                           103.8     23.0     1.49    2723    96.2    54040    8761   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon BL-C2                       99.1     23.9     1.55    2718    97.4    53961    8660   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203B                         105.2     23.3     1.51    2714    96.2    54193    8651   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15                 104.6     23.1     1.50    2710    95.5    54259    8643   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 748                      96.0     22.8     1.48    2709    98.1    52989    8437   1.022
Hodgdon CFE223                      97.8     24.1     1.56    2709    96.2    52690    8699   1.022
Hodgdon H4895                      100.8     22.3     1.45    2706    96.9    54544    8498   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant AR-Comp                     99.6     21.3     1.38    2703   100.0    53107    7539   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Big Game                   103.5     24.4     1.58    2700    95.4    52754    8640   1.022
Accurate 2460                       96.0     22.8     1.48    2699    98.6    56595    8084   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP                          120.9     27.9     1.81    2699    87.2    52573    9445   1.022
Norma 201                          103.2     22.3     1.45    2698    97.9    56234    8246   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 202                          102.0     22.2     1.44    2696    99.4    54778    8095   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                       106.2     24.0     1.55    2694    93.8    54775    8562   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                     108.5     25.4     1.64    2693    89.7    52832    8840   1.022
Hodgdon H414                       108.5     25.4     1.64    2693    89.7    52832    8840   1.022
Vihtavuori N540                    104.1     23.3     1.51    2690    99.3    54508    8188   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Wild Boar                   98.8     23.3     1.51    2689    95.9    53867    8445   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H335                        91.5     22.1     1.43    2687    99.3    54169    8074   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 200                           92.6     20.0     1.30    2686   100.0    57967    7275   1.021  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N530                     96.9     21.5     1.40    2680    97.6    54367    8180   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-10x                 95.3     19.9     1.29    2679   100.0    55953    7419   1.021  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H322                        96.7     20.8     1.34    2679    99.7    53666    7856   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2015                       98.6     20.8     1.35    2675   100.0    56616    7380   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 8208 XBR                        99.0     21.9     1.42    2672    97.5    54512    8083   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2230                       94.9     22.7     1.47    2671    97.1    55838    7985   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N140                    104.0     22.5     1.46    2668    99.5    54523    7778   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4320                           105.3     22.9     1.48    2665    95.4    52845    8243   1.022
IMR 4064                           107.4     22.4     1.45    2661    95.5    54380    8107   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-12                  96.8     21.8     1.41    2658    99.8    54562    7654   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon VARGET                     106.2     22.7     1.47    2657    95.0    53884    8180   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot TAC                         98.5     23.5     1.52    2657    93.0    55022    8219   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot X-Terminator                96.2     22.7     1.47    2656    96.1    55287    8021   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                       107.4     24.1     1.56    2646    89.7    55638    8181   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Benchmark                   97.9     21.3     1.38    2643    98.2    55246    7721   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2200                       89.2     20.0     1.30    2637    98.9    54784    7581   1.023  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 296                      70.9     16.8     1.09    2633   100.0    57122    6765   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-7                   89.4     19.1     1.24    2632   100.0    56553    6940   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N130                     97.9     20.2     1.31    2629   100.0    56112    6992   1.021  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N133                    103.4     20.9     1.36    2627   100.0    55069    7091   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 1680                       81.7     18.9     1.22    2620   100.0    55063    7144   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4198                            93.0     18.4     1.19    2610   100.0    53948    6807   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2700                      107.3     24.8     1.60    2603    89.4    56519    7668   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 5744                       77.6     16.4     1.06    2601   100.0    54538    6886   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160                    124.9     26.5     1.72    2597    84.5    54566    7898   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4198                       90.0     18.7     1.21    2597    99.6    54495    7038   1.023  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N120                     92.6     18.7     1.21    2592   100.0    56617    6341   1.023  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N125                     87.5     18.0     1.16    2589   100.0    56782    6340   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H110                        72.9     17.3     1.12    2578   100.0    58223    6291   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4227                       84.9     17.2     1.11    2574   100.0    55256    6363   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4227                            84.2     17.0     1.10    2563   100.0    55160    6326   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Lil'Gun                     72.2     16.6     1.07    2559   100.0    59725    6009   1.022  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N110                     82.7     15.5     1.00    2507   100.0    59339    5603   1.021  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Enforcer                    68.2     15.4     1.00    2496   100.0    59449    5553   1.021  ! Near Maximum !
 
Thank you very much.

That is very helpful.

I have had trouble controlling OCL with RL15 and Varget and see that 748 and CFE should provide a little bit more leeway since they are below 100% density at similar velocity and pressure.

I will let you all know how I do.

I am willing to give up a little bit of accuracy for velocity since I am using this rifle frequently between 600 and 1,000 yards. (All gun nuts are crazy except you and me, and sometimes I wonder about you). :)
 
if you put velocity over accuracy:

Code:
Cartridge          : 5.56 mm NATO - 5.56 x 45 mm
Bullet             : .224, 77, Nosler CC HPBT 22421
Useable Case Capaci: 23.990 grain H2O = 1.558 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.260 inch = 57.40 mm
Barrel Length      : 20.0 inch = 508.0 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 60000 psi, or 413 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
IMR 3031                           108.5     22.4     1.45    2822   100.0    60000    8306   0.969  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon CFE223                     101.4     25.0     1.62    2816    97.6    60000    8971   0.966  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895                           107.1     23.7     1.53    2811    97.3    60000    8995   0.976  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 748                      99.6     23.7     1.54    2809    99.1    60000    8647   0.969  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Big Game                   107.3     25.3     1.64    2807    96.9    60000    8915   0.966  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon BL-C2                      102.1     24.6     1.60    2804    98.3    60000    8858   0.976  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203B                         108.4     24.0     1.55    2798    97.3    60000    8870   0.977  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2495                      104.8     22.7     1.47    2794   100.0    60000    8189   1.004  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15                 107.8     23.8     1.54    2794    96.7    60000    8872   0.978  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old                      110.0     24.6     1.59    2791    98.0    59193    8827   0.988  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2520                      102.6     23.9     1.55    2789    99.5    60000    8453   0.985  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant AR-Comp                    103.3     22.1     1.43    2789   100.0    60000    7648   0.971  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4895                      103.9     23.0     1.49    2785    97.8    60000    8706   0.980  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Wild Boar                  102.0     24.1     1.56    2778    97.1    60000    8683   0.975  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064                      110.0     23.8     1.54    2774    99.8    57898    8494   1.016  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4320                           109.3     23.8     1.54    2770    96.9    60000    8521   0.967  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                       108.8     24.6     1.59    2769    95.0    60000    8768   0.982  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H335                        94.5     22.8     1.48    2768    99.8    60000    8230   0.978  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 202                          104.9     22.8     1.48    2767    99.8    60000    8225   0.982  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17                 110.0     25.5     1.65    2766    96.0    53901    9386   1.003  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H322                       100.2     21.5     1.39    2765   100.0    60000    8001   0.974  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N540                    107.1     23.9     1.55    2765    99.7    60000    8331   0.981  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N530                     99.9     22.2     1.44    2760    98.4    60000    8374   0.979  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 8208 XBR                       102.1     22.6     1.46    2750    98.3    60000    8278   0.980  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 201                          105.2     22.8     1.48    2750    98.4    60000    8367   0.993  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2460                       97.6     23.2     1.51    2745    99.0    60000    8171   0.996  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N140                    107.0     23.2     1.50    2741    99.9    60000    7896   0.981  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                     110.0     25.7     1.67    2738    90.6    55685    8984   0.998  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                       110.0     25.7     1.67    2738    90.6    55685    8984   0.998  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-10x                 97.6     20.4     1.32    2731   100.0    60000    7505   0.991  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-12                  99.7     22.5     1.46    2731   100.0    60000    7774   0.981  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot TAC                        101.1     24.1     1.56    2729    94.2    60000    8439   0.984  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2230                       96.9     23.2     1.50    2728    97.8    60000    8111   0.990  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4064                           110.0     23.0     1.49    2725    96.4    58761    8278   0.988  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot X-Terminator                98.7     23.3     1.51    2723    97.0    60000    8202   0.986  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2015                      100.4     21.2     1.38    2718   100.0    60000    7437   0.997  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 200                           93.7     20.3     1.31    2711   100.0    60000    7315   1.006  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2200                       92.0     20.6     1.34    2710    99.4    60000    7742   0.983  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Benchmark                  100.6     21.9     1.42    2709    98.8    60000    7881   0.986  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                       109.6     24.6     1.59    2708    90.9    60000    8370   0.989  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N133                    106.3     21.5     1.39    2689   100.0    60000    7174   0.985  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4198                            96.7     19.2     1.24    2688   100.0    60000    6952   0.977  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 1680                       84.3     19.5     1.26    2686   100.0    60000    7257   0.984  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N130                    100.2     20.7     1.34    2678   100.0    60000    7069   0.992  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-7                   91.4     19.5     1.27    2676   100.0    60000    7017   0.996  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 5744                       80.7     17.1     1.11    2675   100.0    60000    7057   0.980  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550                    110.0     24.9     1.61    2674    92.9    50154    8863   1.047
Hodgdon H4198                       93.2     19.4     1.25    2672    99.9    60000    7186   0.981  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 296                      72.3     17.2     1.11    2670   100.0    60000    6850   1.000  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2700                      109.0     25.2     1.63    2651    90.3    60000    7802   0.996  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N135                    110.0     22.1     1.43    2649   100.0    51857    7625   1.046
Hodgdon H4227                       87.6     17.7     1.15    2633   100.0    60000    6485   0.987  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N120                     94.6     19.1     1.24    2632   100.0    60000    6419   0.998  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N125                     89.3     18.4     1.19    2628   100.0    60000    6420   0.999  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4227                            87.0     17.6     1.14    2624   100.0    60000    6451   0.986  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H110                        73.8     17.5     1.13    2600   100.0    60000    6341   1.009  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP                          110.0     24.1     1.56    2582    91.2    45333    8485   1.093
Accurate 4350                      110.0     24.3     1.58    2572    91.0    43641    8545   1.114
Norma 204                          110.0     25.1     1.63    2568    84.4    49120    8160   1.061
Ramshot Hunter                     110.0     25.1     1.63    2567    88.0    45712    8469   1.091
Hodgdon Lil'Gun                     72.3     16.6     1.08    2563   100.0    60000    6017   1.020  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N150                    110.0     23.0     1.49    2555    96.4    46692    7800   1.091
IMR 4350                           110.0     24.2     1.57    2539    86.9    47740    7864   1.078
Vihtavuori N110                     83.1     15.6     1.01    2514   100.0    60000    5621   1.017  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Enforcer                    68.5     15.5     1.00    2502   100.0    60000    5569   1.017  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350                      110.0     23.8     1.54    2485    85.6    44837    7675   1.109
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                110.0     23.5     1.52    2485    92.2    41692    7875   1.135
Alliant Reloder-19                 110.0     24.3     1.58    2421    80.7    40364    7769   1.159
IMR 4831                           110.0     23.3     1.51    2420    88.2    37522    7856   1.195
Winchester Supreme 780             110.0     25.6     1.66    2406    80.7    42493    7443   1.139
Norma R123                          63.6     14.1     0.91    2401   100.0    60000    5079   1.056  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-26                 110.0     26.2     1.69    2373    81.1    35694    8496   1.220
Norma MRP                          110.0     25.4     1.64    2365    78.5    36175    8089   1.215
Vihtavuori 3N38                     71.9     13.0     0.84    2350   100.0    60000    4655   1.032  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC                   110.0     24.6     1.59    2344    75.8    39623    7180   1.176
IMR 7828 SSC                       110.0     25.0     1.62    2336    73.6    38309    7457   1.192
Vihtavuori N105                     72.3     12.5     0.81    2327   100.0    60000    4540   1.048  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                    110.0     24.9     1.61    2308    72.4    35269    7555   1.233
Alliant Reloder-22                 110.0     24.6     1.59    2304    75.9    34477    7572   1.243
Accurate MAGPRO                    110.0     25.9     1.68    2254    68.8    33916    7278   1.258
Alliant Reloder-23                 110.0     23.8     1.54    2242    82.4    30788    7501   1.294
Accurate 3100                      110.0     24.3     1.58    2233    80.2    30779    7173   1.303
Hodgdon H4831                      110.0     23.6     1.53    2232    72.7    34539    6719   1.248
Vihtavuori N160                    110.0     23.3     1.51    2230    75.4    34641    6564   1.250
Winchester WXR                     110.0     24.1     1.56    2228    73.5    31601    7213   1.291
Vihtavuori 3N37                     67.1     11.5     0.74    2222   100.0    60000    4134   1.057  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                     110.0     26.5     1.72    2221    72.9    35059    7005   1.248
Ramshot True Blue                   52.3     11.8     0.76    2218   100.0    60000    4101   1.058  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 540                      51.5     11.7     0.76    2216   100.0    60000    4096   1.058  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165                    110.0     24.1     1.56    2208    76.5    32714    6688   1.275
Vihtavuori N350                     69.7     11.2     0.73    2207   100.0    60000    4045   1.059  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WAP                      57.9     11.1     0.72    2187   100.0    60000    4007   1.062  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Silhouette                  57.8     11.1     0.72    2184   100.0    60000    3996   1.063  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                           110.0     23.6     1.53    2174    68.7    31595    6704   1.296
Alliant Reloder-25                 110.0     24.2     1.57    2137    72.7    28898    6905   1.345
Vihtavuori N340                     69.7     10.2     0.66    2136   100.0    60000    3736   1.076  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Zip                         54.3     10.1     0.66    2089   100.0    60000    3596   1.086  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 231                      60.5     10.1     0.66    2089   100.0    60000    3596   1.086  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N330                     67.4      9.7     0.63    2087   100.0    60000    3555   1.091  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N320                     70.5      9.2     0.59    2043   100.0    60000    3381   1.099  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2                        110.0     24.3     1.58    2017    63.4    25317    6297   1.423
Hodgdon H1000                      110.0     24.1     1.56    2001    61.5    27542    5628   1.388
Vihtavuori N32C Tin Star           100.2     11.1     0.72    1946   100.0    60000    2968   1.135  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Retumbo                    110.0     24.5     1.58    1904    57.8    23461    5403   1.483
Vihtavuori N170                    110.0     24.1     1.56    1899    57.1    23369    5319   1.484
Vihtavuori 24N41                   110.0     25.9     1.68    1877    48.1    25625    4832   1.448
Norma 217                          110.0     24.0     1.55    1778    52.4    19507    4982   1.595
IMR TrailBoss                      110.0      8.2     0.53    1662   100.0    36846    2307   1.390
 
Thank you for plugging in the higher pressure loads from top down.

I will probably run close to NATO pressures.

I am currently using just 35-37 MOA elevation (depending on temperature) to get on at 1,000 yards and would like to duplicate that as closely as I safely can.

I will let you all know how I do.

You have saved me a lot of bench time.

Thanks!

Andy
 
Has anyone been brave enough to upgrade their OS to Windows 10 and if so does QuickLoad version 3.8 run under Windows 10?

I see that a version 3.9 is being offered on the QL Site along with a data upgrade. It says the 3.9 version is compatible with Windows 10. I ordered the data upgrade but don't know if it includes 3.9 application updates as well yet...
 
I am not sure I would consider windows 10 an improvement over 7.

Its alot like using a smart phone. Windows will take over alot of your choices about what programs to install on your desktop. They are not even called programs, they are apps.

You can unistall it within 30 days. I did though not without some headache recovering previous system stability.

windows keeps both versions on your computer for those 30 days. Expect some registry and even boot problems to solve. Not trouble free.
 
For those that have it, what is new in 3.9 that is not in 3.8?

Nevermind... found this on Necos:

"The newest version of QuickLOAD is now available. It is Version 3.9. No need to upgrade to 3.9. It only corrects the need to go through the above procedures to install on Windows 10. No new data on 3.9."

Should have googled before asking.
 
Hi i need help figuring out the velocity of this round i made for my .308 that has a 22" barrel with a 1/10 twist, its a Nosler 175gr HPBT with 40gr of IMR 4064 powder. I have looked allover online and haven't found anything and I don't now anybody that has a chronograph.

I cant make my dope chart without it so if some body could please help that would be great!
Thanks!
 
Shadow Hunter":3alnuw0h said:
Hi i need help figuring out the velocity of this round i made, its a Nosler 175gr HPBT with 40gr of IMR 4064 powder. I have looked allover online and haven't found anything and I don't now anybody that has a chronograph.

I cant make my dope chart without it so if some body could please help that would be great!
Thanks!

Welcome to the forum. What cartridge are you working with?
 
Question for you folks- Have you found any correlation between accuracy and "location" of the obt load within the QL estimate? I rarely get one that is in the middle of the ! Near Maximum !. They most always land on the line before the ! Near Maximum ! starts. I don't load to Saami max, so I really don't look for the fastest node. I'm even more cautious in doing so after seeing how Alliant powders swing. I like having that cushion.

I have estimated combinations (50gr Btip in 22-250 for example) and it's obt landed in the middle, but I've never loaded and tested it. I just find it interesting that 99% of the time it lands where it does. I haven't had any loads disagree with it, so I haven't knowingly test it.
 
Update on the previous .300 blkout questions I posted on this thread. I took advantage of the BF sales and put together another AR-15 fpr the .300 blkout barrel. I ignored QL and reloaded several loads that were previously tested. The groups still had that 2-3" stringing. I decided to look at the scope. thinking it could be off. I took off my butler creek caps and noticed that the "fast focus" eye piece was really far out. Really far, but the reticle and target were "ok". Typing this I am reminded of a fellow shooter adjusting it to get a sight picture that fit him. I adjusted it back in and tried some more of the same loads. Back to being under an inch @ 100. Glad I didnt get rid of the brass I had made. My daughter is going to get this one, when she gets big enough since I had replaced it with the 7.62x40.
 
After posting results on QL, is it best to choose a powder / data that has 99% propellant burnt than 100% where the bullet's push expires before it exits the muzzle? Correct me if I am wrong, the bullet should be continued to be pushed and exited out the muzzle before the propellant reaches 100% burned for best accuracy, of course with all the other parameters such as pressure, case fill, etc?
 
As long as the "Pmuzz" column isn't "0" the bullet is still getting pushed.... Regardless of powder burn percentage.

"Pmuzz" is pressure at the muzzle at the time the bullet exits the barrel.
 
I wouldn't worry about 1% but the more powder burned outside the barrel can result in more muzzle flash. I tried one powder/load combination that was kind of like a 155 Howitzer! :shock: I was looking at velocity/OBT and not the entire table.

Scott
 
TackDriver284":2xsbra3g said:
After posting results on QL, is it best to choose a powder / data that has 99% propellant burnt than 100% where the bullet's push expires before it exits the muzzle? Correct me if I am wrong, the bullet should be continued to be pushed and exited out the muzzle before the propellant reaches 100% burned for best accuracy, of course with all the other parameters such as pressure, case fill, etc?


That's a good question.

I've given that some thought, and when looking at QuickLOAD results it's my opinion that if it tells you the powder will burn 100% at pressures below what you intend to run, then you can be at least somewhat confident you'll get that 100% burn. If you're on the cusp of thew 100% burn, then maybe you will and maybe you won't. I strongly feel that when it tells you you'll get a 95% burn, then you're subject to variables that might result in a range of burn percentage and consequent variation in velocity. All conjecture on my part, but meritable I think.
 
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