QuickLoad questions thread...

highoctane · May 1, 2018

I've had my 280 the better part of 20 yrs. It will shoot just about any bullet/powder combo but it really has an infinity for the 150 gr Nosler and the 154 gr SST's. My 280 has caused the demise of roughly 80 to 90 SC whitetails over those yrs. Most of those with 150 gr Nosler bullets.

The 280 is my favorite cartridge..

andrewctillman · May 7, 2018

6.5 Creedmoor.

140 Hornady ELD-M, 140 Nosler RDF, 147 Hornady ELD-M.

RL-16

2.890 OCL all bullets. (feeds well in magazine though I can go as far as 2.915). Hornady brass.

Bullet lengths are: 140 ELD, 1.374. 140 RDF, 1.420, 147 ELD-M, 1.440.

The Tikka T3x CTR appears to have a much longer than normal free bore (.199 standard) and jump to jam rifling is 2.950 for 140 ELD, 2,991 (140 RDF), and 3.009 (147 ELD).

Your help is much appreciated!

Dwh7271 · May 12, 2018

Code:

Cartridge          : 6.5 Creedmoor Hornady
Bullet             : .264, 140, Nosler RDF HPBT 26725
Useable Case Capaci: 46.198 grain H2O = 3.000 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-16

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   80    33.18   2303    1648   31582   8133     95.8    1.589
-18.0   82    34.01   2356    1726   33611   8348     96.7    1.547
-16.0   84    34.84   2410    1806   35766   8550     97.5    1.507
-14.0   86    35.67   2464    1887   38055   8738     98.2    1.465
-12.0   88    36.50   2517    1970   40490   8912     98.8    1.424
-10.0   90    37.33   2570    2053   43078   9069     99.2    1.383
-08.0   92    38.16   2622    2138   45827   9211     99.6    1.344
-06.0   94    38.99   2674    2224   48761   9335     99.8    1.306
-04.0   96    39.82   2726    2310   51885   9442    100.0    1.270
-02.0   98    40.65   2777    2397   55211   9531    100.0    1.235  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  100    41.48   2827    2485   58759   9613    100.0    1.202  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0  102    42.31   2877    2574   62547   9693    100.0    1.170  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  104    43.14   2927    2663   66592   9770    100.0    1.139  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0  106    43.97   2976    2753   70916   9844    100.0    1.108  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0  108    44.80   3024    2844   75547   9915    100.0    1.079  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0  110    45.63   3073    2935   80507   9984    100.0    1.051  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    100    41.48   2925    2660   70675   9218    100.0    1.120  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    100    41.48   2678    2229   48147   9885     98.0    1.

Code:

Cartridge          : 6.5 Creedmoor Hornady
Bullet             : .264, 140, Hornady ELD-M 26331
Useable Case Capaci: 47.039 grain H2O = 3.054 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-16

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   79    33.18   2286    1624   30738   8148     95.6    1.608
-18.0   81    34.01   2339    1701   32686   8367     96.5    1.566
-16.0   83    34.84   2392    1779   34753   8574     97.3    1.526
-14.0   84    35.67   2445    1859   36948   8768     98.0    1.486
-12.0   86    36.50   2498    1940   39277   8948     98.6    1.444
-10.0   88    37.33   2550    2022   41746   9112     99.1    1.403
-08.0   90    38.16   2602    2105   44376   9261     99.5    1.364
-06.0   92    38.99   2654    2190   47170   9393     99.8    1.326
-04.0   94    39.82   2705    2275   50139   9508     99.9    1.290
-02.0   96    40.65   2756    2361   53301   9605    100.0    1.255
+00.0   98    41.48   2806    2447   56664   9690    100.0    1.221  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0  100    42.31   2855    2534   60249   9773    100.0    1.189  ! Near Maximum !
+04.0  102    43.14   2904    2622   64072   9853    100.0    1.157  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0  104    43.97   2953    2710   68151   9931    100.0    1.127  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0  106    44.80   3001    2800   72509  10006    100.0    1.098  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0  108    45.63   3049    2890   77167  10078    100.0    1.070  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     98    41.48   2905    2623   68118   9293    100.0    1.138  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     98    41.48   2655    2191   46463   9926     97.7    1.331

Code:

Cartridge          : 6.5 Creedmoor Hornady
Bullet             : .264, 147, Hornady ELD-M 26333
Useable Case Capaci: 46.236 grain H2O = 3.002 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-16

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   80    33.18   2283    1701   32789   8227     97.1    1.600
-18.0   82    34.01   2336    1781   34904   8428     97.8    1.558
-16.0   84    34.84   2388    1861   37150   8615     98.5    1.516
-14.0   86    35.67   2440    1943   39537   8787     99.0    1.472
-12.0   88    36.50   2492    2027   42074   8943     99.4    1.430
-10.0   90    37.33   2543    2111   44772   9083     99.7    1.389
-08.0   92    38.16   2594    2196   47641   9206     99.9    1.350
-06.0   94    38.99   2644    2281   50695   9310    100.0    1.313
-04.0   96    39.82   2694    2368   53948   9402    100.0    1.277  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   98    40.65   2743    2455   57414   9490    100.0    1.242  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  100    41.48   2791    2543   61109   9576    100.0    1.209  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0  102    42.31   2839    2631   65056   9659    100.0    1.177  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  104    43.14   2887    2720   69268   9740    100.0    1.146  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0  106    43.97   2934    2810   73773   9818    100.0    1.116  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0  108    44.80   2981    2901   78594   9892    100.0    1.087  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0  110    45.63   3028    2992   83761   9964    100.0    1.059  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    100    41.48   2880    2708   73443   9202    100.0    1.129  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    100    41.48   2653    2298   50020   9950     98.8    1.315

andrewctillman · May 12, 2018

Dwh,

Thank you very much sir!

Dwh7271 · May 13, 2018

Crud. Just noticed I ran the wrong OCL

andrewctillman · May 13, 2018

that still gives me a velocity threshold to aim for.

If you have time you might run one of the bullets at 2.890 and /or another at 2.915???

Might be interesting to see if it gains us anything.

2.80 OCL still useful for alot of other shooters.

NYDAN · May 13, 2018

How do you get the data tables to post correctly on the forum. When I try to copy and paste the data it loses it formatting. There is no spacing between the columns.

Dan

DrMike · May 13, 2018

Dan,

Post using the "Code" function. Hope that helps.

NYDAN · May 14, 2018

Thank you, DrMike. I couldn't figure it out last night. I was trying to respond to someone's request for QL projections but the data lost it's formatting. This looks more readable.

Dan

Code:

Cartridge          : .300 WSM (CIP)
Bullet             : .308, 165, Sierra HPBT 2140
Useable Case Capaci: 74.353 grain H2O = 4.828 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.860 inch = 72.64 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 55839 psi, or 385 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

7 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 85%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26                 102.4     75.5     4.89    3151   100.0    55840   12336   1.157  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP                          102.9     73.6     4.77    3114    98.7    55840   12272   1.157  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60                   93.0     66.9     4.33    3095   100.0    55840   10995   1.150  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70                   99.3     72.5     4.70    3094    99.1    55840   11907   1.148  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                    104.5     73.2     4.74    3093    95.6    55840   12315   1.155  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25                 110.0     75.0     4.86    3086    99.7    54293   11903   1.164  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12                  107.2     78.4     5.08    3082    96.5    55840   12145   1.149  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517                107.3     78.5     5.09    3081    96.4    55840   12157   1.149  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                    104.9     76.5     4.95    3080    94.0    55840   12316   1.161  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation       104.8     72.6     4.70    3077    97.5    55840   11964   1.160  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22                 104.8     72.6     4.70    3077    97.5    55840   11964   1.160  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15                       104.8     72.6     4.70    3077    97.5    55840   11964   1.160  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15                        107.6     72.9     4.73    3075    97.4    55840   11966   1.161  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                     107.6     72.9     4.73    3075    97.4    55840   11966   1.161  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                           108.8     72.4     4.69    3072    96.0    55840   11924   1.148  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                       102.9     72.4     4.69    3072    96.0    55840   11924   1.148  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17                  92.0     66.2     4.29    3071   100.0    55840   10923   1.158  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17                            92.0     66.2     4.29    3071   100.0    55840   10923   1.158  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23                 107.6     72.1     4.67    3069   100.0    55840   11047   1.163  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                        103.7     71.9     4.66    3056    95.8    55840   11778   1.148  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                     104.6     78.1     5.06    3051    98.1    55840   11495   1.153  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16                  98.4     65.7     4.26    3044   100.0    55840   10801   1.169  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365                        98.7     67.3     4.36    3040   100.0    55840   10442   1.172  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62                   95.4     68.5     4.44    3039    99.9    55840   11038   1.178  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                        107.7     76.6     4.96    3038    95.9    55840   11638   1.148  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                      105.8     72.0     4.67    3035    95.5    55840   11538   1.162  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518                 97.4     68.9     4.47    3033    99.0    55840   11206   1.166  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511                 93.5     68.3     4.42    3032    99.3    55840   11146   1.166  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                      96.6     68.4     4.43    3031    99.2    55840   11130   1.167  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                        100.5     68.5     4.44    3028    97.2    55840   11269   1.153  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19                 101.0     69.3     4.49    3028    97.3    55840   11340   1.161  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                      91.1     66.1     4.28    3025    98.7    55840   11120   1.169  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                        91.1     66.1     4.28    3025    98.7    55840   11120   1.169  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation         101.8     69.8     4.52    3021    97.3    55840   11256   1.161  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP                           96.1     65.1     4.22    3014    99.9    55840   10728   1.173  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation          96.1     65.2     4.22    3014    99.9    55840   10726   1.173  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550                     93.2     65.3     4.23    3012    99.8    55840   10837   1.178  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                       95.5     65.5     4.24    3011    99.9    55840   10738   1.191  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation       107.1     74.9     4.85    3011    93.3    55840   11459   1.154  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                         98.9     67.8     4.39    3002    97.1    55840   11024   1.162  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204                           95.7     67.8     4.39    3002    97.1    55840   11024   1.162  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation           98.9     67.8     4.39    3002    97.1    55840   11024   1.162  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                           100.9     66.2     4.29    2996    99.9    55840   10513   1.183  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831                      106.4     70.9     4.59    2995    95.1    55840   11067   1.158  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC                   102.3     70.9     4.59    2995    95.1    55840   11067   1.158  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                       101.3     70.2     4.55    2993    98.2    55840   10910   1.181  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                      104.9     71.9     4.66    2988    99.3    55840   10726   1.194  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP30                        110.0     75.4     4.89    2987    95.1    49224   12080   1.227
Norma MRP 2                        110.0     75.4     4.89    2987    95.1    49224   12080   1.227
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation        96.5     67.1     4.35    2982    98.5    55840   10713   1.175  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780              99.8     72.1     4.67    2980    97.2    55840   10774   1.165  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                 98.7     65.5     4.24    2980   100.0    55840    9908   1.172  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165                    106.7     72.4     4.69    2977    97.8    55840   10635   1.170  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570                    110.0     79.5     5.15    2969    88.1    48037   12623   1.235
Hodgdon H380                        88.5     62.0     4.02    2967    99.7    55840   10316   1.184  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                       99.5     67.2     4.36    2967    96.0    55840   10687   1.166  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070                          95.5     64.8     4.20    2967    98.8    55840   10538   1.185  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3                          88.9     61.6     3.99    2963   100.0    55840    9951   1.195  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old                       88.9     61.6     3.99    2963   100.0    55840    9951   1.195  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S071                         110.0     71.3     4.62    2962    99.1    54235   10674   1.210
Rottweil R903                       90.9     61.6     3.99    2958   100.0    55840    9879   1.195  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron                   103.0     68.7     4.45    2956    95.4    55840   10686   1.166  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355                        90.9     60.9     3.95    2952   100.0    55840    9867   1.188  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160                    106.3     69.9     4.53    2950    95.9    55840   10492   1.168  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065                          94.3     63.2     4.10    2945    99.4    55840   10180   1.185  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7                          93.2     62.7     4.06    2943    98.2    55840   10313   1.179  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907                       93.2     62.7     4.06    2943    98.2    55840   10313   1.179  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                        90.3     62.7     4.07    2943    98.2    55840   10305   1.179  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361                        98.5     71.9     4.66    2932    95.1    55840   10440   1.178  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2217                        110.0     74.6     4.83    2928    94.2    50062   11262   1.208
Hodgdon H1000                      110.0     74.6     4.83    2928    94.2    50062   11262   1.208
Accurate 4064                       88.2     59.2     3.83    2922   100.0    55840    9315   1.218  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-33                 110.0     81.8     5.30    2881    86.9    44959   12166   1.277
IMR 7977 Enduron                   107.4     72.8     4.72    2870    87.0    55840   10000   1.173  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2225                        110.0     75.8     4.91    2862    95.8    43252   11816   1.294
Hodgdon Retumbo                    110.0     75.8     4.91    2862    95.8    43252   11816   1.294
ReloadSwiss RS 80                  110.0     81.8     5.30    2824    86.3    42876   11943   1.305
Lovex D100                         110.0     81.1     5.26    2824    83.0    50393   10320   1.225
ADI AR 2218                        110.0     80.3     5.20    2792    82.5    43766   11818   1.292
Vihtavuori 24N41                   110.0     80.3     5.20    2783    79.4    46481   10625   1.263
Vihtavuori N170                    110.0     74.6     4.83    2763    85.7    45099   10378   1.302
Norma 217                          110.0     74.2     4.81    2749    92.5    37317   11638   1.395
Hodgdon H870                       110.0     77.9     5.04    2717    85.3    38133   11342   1.382
Alliant Reloder-50                 110.0     81.5     5.28    2654    80.7    35073   11371   1.443
Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 110.0     79.7     5.17    2619    73.4    37201   10453   1.443
Hodgdon 50BMG                      110.0     76.5     4.96    2579    70.6    37505    9695   1.401
Hodgdon US 869                     110.0     80.3     5.20    2578    74.6    37300    9765   1.408
Somchem 12.7-0                     110.0     77.9     5.04    2546    70.7    38803    9022   1.385
SNPE Vectan SP 13                  110.0     77.0     4.99    2522    78.9    33641    9691   1.472
Accurate 8700                      110.0     78.7     5.10    2483    76.8    33531    9490   1.471
Vihtavuori 20N29                   110.0     81.1     5.26    2454    73.3    31961    9475   1.505
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520       110.0     77.0     4.99    2452    75.4    31723    9306   1.511
NC A3502 ,test only                110.0     73.8     4.78    2259    51.5    30543    6868   1.546
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only           110.0     73.8     4.78    2234    55.9    28397    7329   1.591
V1734 7-multiperf ,test only       110.0     73.8     4.78    1603    25.3    16029    3345   2.060

Dwh7271 · May 14, 2018

That's it Dan. Nice!

mjcmichigan · May 14, 2018

NYDAN said:

Thank you, DrMike. I couldn't figure it out last night. I was trying to respond to someone's request for QL projections but the data lost it's formatting. This looks more readable.

Dan

Code:

Cartridge          : .300 WSM (CIP)
Bullet             : .308, 165, Sierra HPBT 2140
Useable Case Capaci: 74.353 grain H2O = 4.828 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.860 inch = 72.64 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 55839 psi, or 385 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

7 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 85%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26                 102.4     75.5     4.89    3151   100.0    55840   12336   1.157  

Hi Dan, thank you for trying to do that for me. Can I ask you to do a QL for same as above but with RL26?  I notice Dr. Mike put a filter on the over all tobonly show powders with 90% starting fill rate.  It eliminates a lot of powders that we’re lower in performance. I’m not sure I follow the physics on that point.  Maybe Dr. Mike might comment.

Thanks Mark


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NYDAN · May 14, 2018

Here you go. I also posted it with your original post since I wasn't sure where you would look for my response.

Dan

Code:

Cartridge          : .300 WSM (CIP)
Bullet             : .308, 165, Sierra HPBT 2140
Useable Case Capaci: 74.346 grain H2O = 4.827 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.860 inch = 72.64 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-26

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.645% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-06.5   98    72.50   3012    3324   48108  12095     99.4    1.238
-05.8   99    73.00   3036    3376   49319  12145     99.5    1.224
-05.2  100    73.50   3059    3429   50565  12192     99.7    1.210
-04.5  100    74.00   3083    3481   51849  12234     99.8    1.196
-03.9  101    74.50   3106    3534   53169  12272     99.9    1.183
-03.2  102    75.00   3129    3588   54528  12307     99.9    1.169  ! Near Maximum !
-02.6  102    75.50   3153    3641   55928  12337    100.0    1.156  ! Near Maximum !
-01.9  103    76.00   3176    3695   57371  12363    100.0    1.143  ! Near Maximum !
-01.3  104    76.50   3199    3750   58858  12385    100.0    1.130  ! Near Maximum !
-00.6  105    77.00   3222    3804   60389  12405    100.0    1.117  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  105    77.50   3245    3858   61970  12424    100.0    1.104  ! Near Maximum !
+00.6  106    78.00   3268    3913   63598  12443    100.0    1.091  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.3  107    78.50   3291    3968   65276  12461    100.0    1.079  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.9  107    79.00   3314    4024   67010  12479    100.0    1.066  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.6  108    79.50   3337    4079   68797  12496    100.0    1.054  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.2  109    80.00   3359    4135   70643  12512    100.0    1.042  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    105    77.50   3399    4232   78963  11834    100.0    1.007  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    105    77.50   3009    3316   48076  12662     96.7    1.232

mjcmichigan · May 14, 2018

NYDAN":293ko9k1 said:

Here you go. I also posted it with your original post since I wasn't sure where you would look for my response.

Dan

Code:

Cartridge          : .300 WSM (CIP)
Bullet             : .308, 165, Sierra HPBT 2140
Useable Case Capaci: 74.346 grain H2O = 4.827 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.860 inch = 72.64 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-26

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.645% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-06.5   98    72.50   3012    3324   48108  12095     99.4    1.238
-05.8   99    73.00   3036    3376   49319  12145     99.5    1.224
-05.2  100    73.50   3059    3429   50565  12192     99.7    1.210
-04.5  100    74.00   3083    3481   51849  12234     99.8    1.196
-03.9  101    74.50   3106    3534   53169  12272     99.9    1.183
-03.2  102    75.00   3129    3588   54528  12307     99.9    1.169  ! Near Maximum !
-02.6  102    75.50   3153    3641   55928  12337    100.0    1.156  ! Near Maximum !
-01.9  103    76.00   3176    3695   57371  12363    100.0    1.143  ! Near Maximum !
-01.3  104    76.50   3199    3750   58858  12385    100.0    1.130  ! Near Maximum !
-00.6  105    77.00   3222    3804   60389  12405    100.0    1.117  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  105    77.50   3245    3858   61970  12424    100.0    1.104  ! Near Maximum !
+00.6  106    78.00   3268    3913   63598  12443    100.0    1.091  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.3  107    78.50   3291    3968   65276  12461    100.0    1.079  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.9  107    79.00   3314    4024   67010  12479    100.0    1.066  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.6  108    79.50   3337    4079   68797  12496    100.0    1.054  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.2  109    80.00   3359    4135   70643  12512    100.0    1.042  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    105    77.50   3399    4232   78963  11834    100.0    1.007  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    105    77.50   3009    3316   48076  12662     96.7    1.232

Thank you NYDan!

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NYDAN · May 16, 2018

When I go to select a cartridge from the QL cartridge list I often see a "CIP" option and a "SAAMI" option. I don't know what "CIP" means. When I have the option between the two, which one should I choose?

Dan

DrMike · May 16, 2018

CIP (Commission Internationale Permanente pour l’Epreuve des Armes à Feu Portatives) is the European equivalent of SAAMI for overseeing cartridge standards. Pressure measurements conform to reciprocal acceptance of proof-test marks on firearms and ammunition safety standards according to agreed European standards.

NYDAN · May 16, 2018

DrMike":398vdd8q said:
CIP (Commission Internationale Permanente pour l’Epreuve des Armes à Feu Portatives) is the European equivalent of SAAMI for overseeing cartridge standards. Pressure measurements conform to reciprocal acceptance of proof-test marks on firearms and ammunition safety standards according to agreed European standards.

Thank you, DrMike. I appreciate the help in my education.

Dan

IdahoCTD · May 16, 2018

Well I finally broke down and bought QL. I didn't get the Quick Design but I may if I ever get time to play with more wildcats.

Dwh7271 · May 17, 2018

Good job Nathan.
QuickDesign is pretty handy. Especially for wildcats as you mentioned. Kind of a cool way to pre-test one to see if you need to buy that reamer. :lol:

IdahoCTD · May 17, 2018

I have so many parts laying around now to build guns I doubt I'll mess with any new wildcats any time soon.

Dwh7271 · May 17, 2018

I guess that’s a good problem lol

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