QuickLoad questions thread...
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DrMike
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Dougfir":398xq78a said:
Code:
Cartridge : 7 mm-08 Rem.
Bullet : .284, 140, Nosler AccuBond 59992
Useable Case Capaci: 47.445 grain H2O = 3.081 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.840 inch = 72.14 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-17
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-10.0 93 42.84 2628 2147 41900 9568 97.2 1.233
-09.0 94 43.32 2659 2198 43356 9667 97.7 1.213
-08.0 95 43.79 2690 2249 44866 9761 98.0 1.194
-07.0 96 44.27 2720 2300 46434 9850 98.4 1.175
-06.0 98 44.74 2751 2353 48057 9934 98.7 1.157
-05.0 99 45.22 2782 2405 49752 10012 99.0 1.138
-04.0 100 45.70 2812 2459 51511 10085 99.2 1.120 ! Near Maximum !
-03.0 101 46.17 2843 2512 53338 10153 99.4 1.103 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 102 46.65 2873 2567 55238 10214 99.6 1.086 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 103 47.12 2904 2621 57214 10269 99.8 1.069 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 104 47.60 2934 2676 59272 10319 99.9 1.052 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 105 48.08 2964 2732 61414 10362 99.9 1.036 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 106 48.55 2994 2787 63645 10399 100.0 1.019 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0 107 49.03 3024 2843 65969 10430 100.0 1.004 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 108 49.50 3054 2900 68393 10457 100.0 0.988 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 109 49.98 3084 2957 70921 10484 100.0 0.973 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 104 47.60 3065 2920 72274 9844 100.0 0.972 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 104 47.60 2740 2334 48024 10297 95.3 1.156
Dougfir
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Thank you!
Dougfir
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DrMike":icxfy85n said:
How does the program determine usable case capacity? I'm guessing that's different from total case capacity. If I fill a Hornady 7mm-08 case up with water and weigh just the water, I get an average of 56.367 grains. Just curious. Thanks!
DrMike
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Useable Case Capacity is Maximum Case Capacity, overflow minus Volume Occupied by Seated Bullet. Maximum Case Capacity, overflow, is determined by filling a case (after taring) with deoxygenated water until it forms a convex meniscus. The weight of the water is taken as equal to the capacity sought.
Dougfir
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DrMike":2bra7pwx said:
That's interesting. So, does the program have an average usable capacity for each chambering based on the weight of the bullet, or is it specific to the exact bullet, exact brand of case, etc? I'm assuming it then changes based on the seating depth... Either way, someone obviously put some though into Quickloads! Thanks again!
DrMike
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The default calculations are all based on SAAMI measurements. Your rifle will vary. The degree of variation depends upon how precise your chamber was cut. For that reason, to get a precise projection you need to measure your Case Capacity, overflow and OAL at a minimum.
Dougfir
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Two more, if someone is willing: I'd like to play around with the 180 grain Speer Hot Cor in my 30-06. I'd be using Rem cases, WLR primers and a length of 3.16" I have Speer's data, but they don't list Big Game, or H 4895, both of which I have on hand and would like to try. Thank you!
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Dougfir":2784rsrr said:
Whoops! 22" barrel.
DrMike
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You certainly would have the bullet seated deep to have only 3.160 inch COAL.
Code:
Cartridge : .30-06 Spring. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 180, Speer SP 2053
Useable Case Capaci: 58.757 grain H2O = 3.815 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.160 inch = 80.26 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Ramshot Big Game
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-10.0 84 48.42 2470 2439 42902 9146 98.2 1.285
-09.0 85 48.96 2496 2490 44290 9232 98.5 1.266
-08.0 86 49.50 2522 2541 45715 9314 98.7 1.248
-07.0 87 50.03 2547 2593 47179 9393 99.0 1.231
-06.0 88 50.57 2572 2645 48683 9469 99.2 1.213
-05.0 89 51.11 2598 2697 50229 9540 99.4 1.196
-04.0 90 51.65 2623 2750 51823 9608 99.5 1.179 ! Near Maximum !
-03.0 90 52.19 2648 2803 53467 9672 99.7 1.163 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 91 52.72 2673 2856 55162 9732 99.8 1.147 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 92 53.26 2698 2909 56912 9788 99.9 1.131 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 93 53.80 2723 2963 58716 9840 99.9 1.115 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 94 54.34 2747 3017 60579 9887 100.0 1.100 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 95 54.88 2772 3071 62501 9931 100.0 1.085 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0 96 55.41 2796 3126 64485 9970 100.0 1.070 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 97 55.95 2821 3180 66533 10009 100.0 1.056 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 98 56.49 2845 3235 68648 10047 100.0 1.042 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 93 53.80 2823 3185 70022 9447 100.0 1.039 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 93 53.80 2575 2650 47678 9906 96.6 1.217
Cartridge : .30-06 Spring. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 180, Speer SP 2053
Useable Case Capaci: 58.757 grain H2O = 3.815 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.160 inch = 80.26 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Hodgdon H4895
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-10.0 81 43.92 2457 2413 44128 8827 99.0 1.285
-09.0 82 44.41 2481 2460 45412 8905 99.1 1.268
-08.0 83 44.90 2504 2507 46731 8980 99.3 1.251
-07.0 84 45.38 2528 2554 48084 9053 99.5 1.234
-06.0 85 45.87 2551 2601 49473 9122 99.6 1.218
-05.0 86 46.36 2574 2649 50899 9189 99.7 1.202
-04.0 86 46.85 2598 2697 52363 9252 99.8 1.186 ! Near Maximum !
-03.0 87 47.34 2621 2745 53865 9312 99.9 1.171 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 88 47.82 2644 2793 55408 9369 99.9 1.156 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 89 48.31 2666 2842 56992 9423 100.0 1.141 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 90 48.80 2689 2890 58619 9473 100.0 1.127 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 91 49.29 2712 2939 60289 9521 100.0 1.113 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 92 49.78 2734 2988 62004 9569 100.0 1.099 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0 93 50.26 2756 3037 63767 9615 100.0 1.085 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 94 50.75 2779 3086 65577 9661 100.0 1.072 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 95 51.24 2801 3135 67437 9707 100.0 1.059 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 90 48.80 2775 3079 68433 9140 100.0 1.055 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 90 48.80 2561 2621 48838 9614 97.7 1.222Dougfir
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Thank you! I wondered about the OAL too. That's the published OAL from Speer, using the Hor Cor. They go longer for some other .308 bullets, but not that one. This load will be for a 7600 and the magazine won't really accept much longer than 3.25 and I'm not worried about superb accuracy in this case, as it's my peep sighted brush gun. Shots will be inside of 100 yards. So, I wasn't too worried about it.
A general Quick Load question: Where in that range of "near max" loads would you generally find published max load? Do most folks find themselves able to get up towards the top of the "near max" range, or is it common to be stopped early in that zone, by pressure? I know there isn't a true answer, I'm just curious about what has been your experience/others'. Thanks again!
A general Quick Load question: Where in that range of "near max" loads would you generally find published max load? Do most folks find themselves able to get up towards the top of the "near max" range, or is it common to be stopped early in that zone, by pressure? I know there isn't a true answer, I'm just curious about what has been your experience/others'. Thanks again!
Can i get a reality check.
338 RUM
Nos 1x brass, 113.3 h20 cap
3.72 coal ( This is still about 0.115 off the lands)
300 gr SMK
26” bbl
Actual, per magnetospeed (3 shots per)
91.5 gr RETUMBO: 2776 sd 2, es 5
92.5 gr RETUMBO: 2787 sd 16, es 30
93.5 gr RETUMBO: 2820 sd 13, es 26
94.5 gr RETUMBO: 2860 sd 10, es 21
I expected closer to 2650 for the 91.5, as you can see i got a big surprise.
I know these are too hot, and don’t intend to replicate, just curious on p level prediction.
Sierra book max is 93 with 3.58 coal. Didn’t think i would be pushing things until the 93+ range.
Hodgdon is at 90.5gr, 62kpsi, 24” bbl, 3.58 coal.
Slight ejector mark starting on 92.5, only slightly more at 94.5, with a little stiff bolt. Noticeably more effort, but it was still finger manipulation.
velocity says it way hot, and i do not intend to replicate, but curious as to what quick load says.
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338 RUM
Nos 1x brass, 113.3 h20 cap
3.72 coal ( This is still about 0.115 off the lands)
300 gr SMK
26” bbl
Actual, per magnetospeed (3 shots per)
91.5 gr RETUMBO: 2776 sd 2, es 5
92.5 gr RETUMBO: 2787 sd 16, es 30
93.5 gr RETUMBO: 2820 sd 13, es 26
94.5 gr RETUMBO: 2860 sd 10, es 21
I expected closer to 2650 for the 91.5, as you can see i got a big surprise.
I know these are too hot, and don’t intend to replicate, just curious on p level prediction.
Sierra book max is 93 with 3.58 coal. Didn’t think i would be pushing things until the 93+ range.
Hodgdon is at 90.5gr, 62kpsi, 24” bbl, 3.58 coal.
Slight ejector mark starting on 92.5, only slightly more at 94.5, with a little stiff bolt. Noticeably more effort, but it was still finger manipulation.
velocity says it way hot, and i do not intend to replicate, but curious as to what quick load says.
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highoctane
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Good afternoon, I really need some quick load data. Not really sure what info I need to supply. I need 280 Rem and 7 mm 08 data.
DrMike
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Have any specifics as to what you are looking for? Bullets? Powder? Barrel length? The more information you provide, the more likely you'll receive a response. Give us a post telling what you're actually wanting to do.
highoctane
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I have several good loads already for the info below but I would like to know where they stand as far as pressure and velocity..
7-08, 22 in barrel, RL16, H414, 140 gr Nosler BT and Partition, Winchester nickel and Fed cases, WLRP,
280, 22 inch barrel, RL16 powder, IMR 7828, 154 gr SST, 150 gr Nosler BT and Partition, Fed cases, WLRP,
I know this is a good size request, but I sure would appreciate it
7-08, 22 in barrel, RL16, H414, 140 gr Nosler BT and Partition, Winchester nickel and Fed cases, WLRP,
280, 22 inch barrel, RL16 powder, IMR 7828, 154 gr SST, 150 gr Nosler BT and Partition, Fed cases, WLRP,
I know this is a good size request, but I sure would appreciate it
DrMike
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Code:
Cartridge : 7 mm-08 Rem.
Bullet : .284, 140, Nosler BalTip 28140
Useable Case Capaci: 47.351 grain H2O = 3.074 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Hodgdon H414
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-10.0 92 42.66 2569 2051 41855 9115 91.5 1.247
-09.0 93 43.13 2599 2100 43305 9234 92.1 1.227
-08.0 94 43.61 2629 2149 44810 9351 92.6 1.208
-07.0 96 44.08 2660 2199 46373 9466 93.2 1.189
-06.0 97 44.56 2690 2250 47996 9577 93.7 1.171
-05.0 98 45.03 2721 2301 49681 9685 94.2 1.153
-04.0 99 45.50 2751 2353 51429 9790 94.7 1.135 ! Near Maximum !
-03.0 100 45.98 2782 2406 53250 9892 95.1 1.117 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 101 46.45 2813 2459 55141 9990 95.6 1.100 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 102 46.93 2843 2513 57107 10085 96.0 1.083 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 103 47.40 2874 2568 59152 10176 96.4 1.066 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 104 47.87 2905 2623 61282 10263 96.8 1.050 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 105 48.35 2935 2679 63498 10347 97.2 1.033 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0 106 48.82 2966 2735 65807 10426 97.5 1.017 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 107 49.30 2997 2792 68212 10501 97.9 1.002 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 108 49.77 3028 2850 70722 10571 98.2 0.986 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 103 47.40 3024 2843 71866 10120 99.8 0.985 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 103 47.40 2677 2228 47724 9698 89.0 1.171
Code:
Cartridge : 7 mm-08 Rem.
Bullet : .284, 140, Nosler BalTip 28140
Useable Case Capaci: 47.351 grain H2O = 3.074 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-16
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-10.0 100 42.66 2610 2117 41658 9360 96.3 1.243
-09.0 101 43.13 2640 2167 43128 9460 96.8 1.223
-08.0 103 43.61 2671 2218 44654 9555 97.2 1.203
-07.0 104 44.08 2702 2269 46237 9647 97.6 1.184
-06.0 105 44.56 2732 2321 47885 9733 97.9 1.165
-05.0 106 45.03 2763 2373 49598 9815 98.3 1.147
-04.0 107 45.50 2793 2426 51380 9892 98.6 1.129 ! Near Maximum !
-03.0 108 45.98 2824 2479 53232 9964 98.8 1.111 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 109 46.45 2854 2532 55160 10031 99.1 1.093 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 110 46.93 2885 2587 57169 10093 99.3 1.076 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 112 47.40 2915 2641 59258 10149 99.5 1.059 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 113 47.87 2945 2696 61438 10199 99.7 1.042 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 114 48.35 2975 2752 63707 10244 99.8 1.026 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0 115 48.82 3005 2807 66079 10283 99.9 1.010 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 116 49.30 3035 2864 68549 10317 100.0 0.994 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 117 49.77 3065 2920 71128 10344 100.0 0.979 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 112 47.40 3049 2890 73172 9689 100.0 0.977 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 112 47.40 2720 2300 47398 10047 94.2 1.167As with any mathematical programme, the more precise the data you input, the more precise the data generated. You can become quite precise with this programme.
DrMike
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Code:
Cartridge : .280 Rem.
Bullet : .284, 150, Nosler BalTip 28150
Useable Case Capaci: 59.994 grain H2O = 3.895 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.330 inch = 84.58 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-16
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-10.0 90 48.33 2614 2276 42021 11096 98.7 1.291
-09.0 91 48.87 2642 2325 43414 11196 99.0 1.272
-08.0 92 49.40 2670 2375 44853 11291 99.2 1.253
-07.0 93 49.94 2698 2425 46335 11381 99.4 1.234
-06.0 94 50.48 2726 2475 47858 11466 99.6 1.216
-05.0 95 51.02 2754 2526 49423 11545 99.7 1.198
-04.0 96 51.55 2781 2576 51036 11619 99.8 1.180 ! Near Maximum !
-03.0 97 52.09 2809 2628 52699 11687 99.9 1.163 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 98 52.63 2836 2679 54415 11749 100.0 1.146 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 99 53.16 2863 2731 56186 11805 100.0 1.129 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 100 53.70 2890 2782 58014 11857 100.0 1.113 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 101 54.24 2917 2835 59901 11907 100.0 1.097 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 102 54.77 2944 2887 61848 11957 100.0 1.081 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0 103 55.31 2971 2939 63859 12006 100.0 1.066 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 104 55.85 2997 2992 65936 12054 100.0 1.051 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 105 56.39 3024 3045 68081 12101 100.0 1.036 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 100 53.70 3003 3003 70196 11381 100.0 1.029 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 100 53.70 2721 2466 46228 12052 97.3 1.225
Code:
Cartridge : .280 Rem.
Bullet : .284, 150, Nosler BalTip 28150
Useable Case Capaci: 59.994 grain H2O = 3.895 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.330 inch = 84.58 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 58000 psi, or 399 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 112 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
9 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26 103.6 61.6 3.99 2992 99.9 58000 13551 1.100 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 104.2 60.1 3.90 2957 98.7 58000 13466 1.100 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 112.0 61.6 3.99 2952 99.8 57678 13115 1.096 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70 100.5 59.2 3.84 2939 99.0 58000 13067 1.091 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60 94.2 54.7 3.54 2938 100.0 58000 12069 1.095 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 105.7 59.8 3.87 2938 95.5 58000 13510 1.098 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12 108.3 64.0 4.14 2929 96.4 58000 13320 1.091 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517 108.5 64.0 4.15 2928 96.3 58000 13333 1.091 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO 106.2 62.4 4.04 2927 93.8 58000 13512 1.103 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 106.0 59.3 3.84 2923 97.5 58000 13124 1.103 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 106.0 59.3 3.84 2923 97.5 58000 13124 1.103 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 106.0 59.3 3.84 2923 97.5 58000 13124 1.103 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR 108.9 59.6 3.86 2921 97.3 58000 13127 1.104 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15 108.9 59.6 3.86 2921 97.3 58000 13127 1.104 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 104.1 59.1 3.83 2919 95.9 58000 13079 1.091 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 110.1 59.1 3.83 2919 95.9 58000 13079 1.091 ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17 93.2 54.1 3.50 2915 100.0 58000 11987 1.102 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 93.2 54.1 3.50 2915 100.0 58000 11987 1.102 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23 108.9 58.9 3.82 2915 100.0 58000 12132 1.106 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213 104.9 58.7 3.80 2902 95.7 58000 12913 1.091 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum 105.7 63.7 4.13 2899 98.0 58000 12613 1.095 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 99.7 53.7 3.48 2890 100.0 58000 11856 1.113 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214 108.8 62.5 4.05 2886 95.8 58000 12763 1.090 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 99.9 54.9 3.56 2886 100.0 58000 11465 1.116 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62 96.6 56.0 3.63 2885 99.8 58000 12118 1.121 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905 107.1 58.8 3.81 2882 95.4 58000 12653 1.105 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518 98.6 56.3 3.65 2881 99.0 58000 12297 1.109 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511 94.7 55.8 3.62 2879 99.2 58000 12231 1.110 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 97.8 55.9 3.62 2878 99.2 58000 12213 1.110 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 101.7 55.9 3.63 2876 97.2 58000 12356 1.096 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 102.3 56.6 3.67 2876 97.3 58000 12438 1.104 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 92.3 54.0 3.50 2872 98.7 58000 12199 1.112 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 92.3 54.0 3.50 2872 98.7 58000 12199 1.112 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 103.1 57.0 3.69 2870 97.3 58000 12348 1.104 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP 97.3 53.2 3.45 2862 99.9 58000 11769 1.117 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation 108.4 61.1 3.96 2861 93.2 58000 12569 1.096 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 97.3 53.3 3.45 2861 99.9 58000 11766 1.117 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 94.5 53.4 3.46 2860 99.8 58000 11888 1.122 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP30 112.0 61.9 4.01 2859 95.3 52360 13337 1.154 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2 112.0 61.9 4.01 2859 95.3 52360 13337 1.154 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 96.7 53.5 3.47 2858 99.9 58000 11778 1.134 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 100.1 55.4 3.59 2851 97.0 58000 12088 1.105 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 97.0 55.4 3.59 2851 97.0 58000 12088 1.105 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4 100.1 55.4 3.59 2851 97.0 58000 12088 1.105 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570 112.0 65.3 4.23 2847 88.5 51220 13969 1.159 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 107.7 57.9 3.75 2845 95.0 58000 12133 1.101 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC 103.5 57.9 3.75 2845 95.0 58000 12133 1.101 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 102.2 54.1 3.51 2845 99.9 58000 11537 1.125 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385 102.6 57.4 3.72 2843 98.1 58000 11972 1.123 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100 106.1 58.7 3.80 2838 99.2 58000 11770 1.135 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S071 112.0 58.6 3.80 2833 99.2 57687 11759 1.138 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 97.7 54.9 3.56 2833 98.4 58000 11750 1.118 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780 101.0 58.9 3.82 2831 97.1 58000 11812 1.108 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 100.0 53.5 3.47 2829 100.0 58000 10876 1.115 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165 108.0 59.1 3.83 2828 97.8 58000 11670 1.112 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904 100.8 55.0 3.56 2819 96.0 58000 11722 1.108 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070 96.8 52.9 3.43 2817 98.8 58000 11559 1.127 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old 90.0 50.3 3.26 2812 100.0 58000 10912 1.138 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3 90.0 50.3 3.26 2812 100.0 58000 10912 1.138 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron 104.3 56.1 3.64 2809 95.3 58000 11720 1.108 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903 92.1 50.4 3.26 2808 100.0 58000 10836 1.137 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000 112.0 61.3 3.97 2806 94.5 53346 12439 1.134 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2217 112.0 61.3 3.97 2806 94.5 53346 12439 1.134 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 107.6 57.1 3.70 2803 95.9 58000 11512 1.110 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355 92.1 49.8 3.23 2802 100.0 58000 10820 1.131 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065 95.6 51.7 3.35 2797 99.4 58000 11165 1.127 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7 94.4 51.3 3.32 2795 98.2 58000 11306 1.122 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907 94.4 51.3 3.32 2795 98.2 58000 11306 1.122 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC 91.5 51.3 3.32 2794 98.2 58000 11298 1.122 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361 99.8 58.8 3.81 2787 95.1 58000 11457 1.119 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-33 112.0 67.2 4.35 2764 87.3 48031 13471 1.196
ADI AR 2225 112.0 62.3 4.04 2739 96.1 45905 13044 1.218
Hodgdon Retumbo 112.0 62.3 4.04 2739 96.1 45905 13044 1.218
IMR 7977 Enduron 108.6 59.4 3.85 2728 86.9 58000 10965 1.113 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D100 112.0 66.7 4.32 2712 83.4 53994 11432 1.146 ! Near Maximum !DrMike
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Code:
Cartridge : .280 Rem.
Bullet : .284, 150, Nosler PART SP 16326
Useable Case Capaci: 61.018 grain H2O = 3.962 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.330 inch = 84.58 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-16
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-10.0 89 48.78 2615 2278 41951 11244 98.8 1.292
-09.0 90 49.32 2643 2327 43339 11346 99.0 1.273
-08.0 91 49.86 2671 2376 44764 11442 99.2 1.254
-07.0 92 50.41 2699 2426 46228 11533 99.4 1.235
-06.0 93 50.95 2727 2476 47732 11619 99.6 1.217
-05.0 94 51.49 2754 2526 49279 11699 99.7 1.199
-04.0 95 52.03 2782 2577 50875 11774 99.9 1.182 ! Near Maximum !
-03.0 96 52.57 2809 2628 52520 11843 99.9 1.164 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 97 53.12 2836 2679 54218 11906 100.0 1.148 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 98 53.66 2863 2731 55968 11963 100.0 1.131 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 99 54.20 2890 2783 57774 12017 100.0 1.115 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 100 54.74 2917 2834 59638 12069 100.0 1.099 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 101 55.28 2944 2887 61560 12120 100.0 1.083 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0 102 55.83 2970 2939 63545 12171 100.0 1.068 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 103 56.37 2997 2991 65593 12220 100.0 1.053 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 104 56.91 3023 3044 67708 12269 100.0 1.038 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 99 54.20 3002 3002 69816 11541 100.0 1.031 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 99 54.20 2722 2467 46066 12217 97.3 1.227
Code:
Cartridge : .280 Rem.
Bullet : .284, 150, Nosler PART SP 16326
Useable Case Capaci: 61.018 grain H2O = 3.962 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.330 inch = 84.58 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 58000 psi, or 399 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 112 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
11 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
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Alliant Reloder-26 102.9 62.2 4.03 2996 100.0 58000 13740 1.101 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 111.5 62.4 4.04 2962 99.8 58000 13313 1.093 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 103.5 60.8 3.94 2961 98.7 58000 13665 1.100 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70 100.0 59.9 3.88 2945 99.1 58000 13264 1.091 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 105.1 60.4 3.91 2943 95.6 58000 13724 1.098 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60 93.7 55.3 3.58 2942 100.0 58000 12239 1.094 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517 107.9 64.8 4.20 2935 96.5 58000 13553 1.090 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12 107.8 64.7 4.19 2935 96.6 58000 13537 1.091 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO 105.5 63.1 4.09 2931 94.0 58000 13729 1.103 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 105.4 59.9 3.88 2927 97.6 58000 13324 1.103 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 105.4 59.9 3.88 2927 97.6 58000 13324 1.103 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 105.4 59.9 3.88 2927 97.6 58000 13324 1.103 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 109.4 59.8 3.88 2925 96.0 58000 13294 1.091 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 103.5 59.8 3.88 2925 96.0 58000 13294 1.091 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR 108.2 60.2 3.90 2925 97.4 58000 13327 1.103 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15 108.2 60.2 3.90 2925 97.4 58000 13327 1.103 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23 108.2 59.5 3.86 2918 100.0 58000 12301 1.106 ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17 92.6 54.7 3.54 2918 100.0 58000 12154 1.102 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 92.6 54.7 3.54 2918 100.0 58000 12154 1.102 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213 104.4 59.3 3.85 2909 95.9 58000 13125 1.090 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum 105.1 64.4 4.17 2905 98.1 58000 12814 1.095 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214 108.3 63.2 4.10 2895 96.0 58000 12980 1.089 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 99.1 54.3 3.52 2894 100.0 58000 12023 1.113 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62 96.0 56.6 3.67 2889 99.9 58000 12291 1.120 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 99.2 55.5 3.60 2888 100.0 58000 11626 1.116 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905 106.5 59.4 3.85 2888 95.6 58000 12856 1.104 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2 112.0 63.0 4.08 2886 95.8 53593 13631 1.141 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP30 112.0 63.0 4.08 2886 95.8 53593 13631 1.141 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518 98.0 56.9 3.69 2885 99.1 58000 12479 1.108 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511 94.1 56.4 3.65 2884 99.3 58000 12411 1.109 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 97.3 56.5 3.66 2882 99.3 58000 12394 1.109 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 101.2 56.6 3.67 2882 97.3 58000 12552 1.095 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 101.7 57.2 3.71 2881 97.4 58000 12630 1.103 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 91.8 54.6 3.54 2877 98.7 58000 12385 1.111 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 91.8 54.6 3.54 2877 98.7 58000 12385 1.111 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570 112.0 66.4 4.30 2877 89.2 52390 14326 1.146 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 102.5 57.6 3.73 2875 97.4 58000 12539 1.103 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation 107.9 61.9 4.01 2869 93.4 58000 12783 1.095 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP 96.7 53.8 3.49 2866 99.9 58000 11939 1.116 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 96.8 53.8 3.49 2866 99.9 58000 11935 1.116 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 93.9 54.0 3.50 2864 99.9 58000 12058 1.121 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 96.1 54.1 3.50 2863 99.9 58000 11948 1.133 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 96.4 56.0 3.63 2856 97.1 58000 12280 1.104 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 99.6 56.0 3.63 2856 97.1 58000 12280 1.104 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4 99.6 56.0 3.63 2856 97.1 58000 12280 1.104 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC 102.9 58.5 3.79 2852 95.2 58000 12334 1.100 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 107.1 58.5 3.79 2852 95.2 58000 12334 1.100 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 101.5 54.7 3.54 2849 99.9 58000 11703 1.125 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385 102.0 58.0 3.76 2848 98.2 58000 12156 1.123 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S071 111.5 59.3 3.84 2842 99.3 58000 11946 1.135 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100 105.4 59.3 3.84 2842 99.3 58000 11946 1.135 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 97.2 55.5 3.60 2838 98.5 58000 11931 1.117 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780 100.4 59.5 3.86 2836 97.2 58000 12000 1.107 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165 107.4 59.7 3.87 2834 97.9 58000 11854 1.112 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 99.4 54.1 3.50 2833 100.0 58000 11033 1.114 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000 112.0 62.3 4.04 2832 95.0 54413 12724 1.122 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2217 112.0 62.3 4.04 2832 95.0 54413 12724 1.122 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904 100.3 55.6 3.60 2825 96.1 58000 11914 1.107 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070 96.2 53.5 3.47 2822 98.8 58000 11736 1.126 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron 103.8 56.8 3.68 2815 95.5 58000 11912 1.106 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903 91.5 50.9 3.30 2812 100.0 58000 10991 1.136 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 107.1 57.7 3.74 2809 96.0 58000 11701 1.109 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355 91.6 50.4 3.27 2807 100.0 58000 10976 1.130 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065 95.0 52.3 3.39 2802 99.5 58000 11334 1.126 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907 93.9 51.9 3.36 2801 98.3 58000 11485 1.120 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7 93.9 51.9 3.36 2801 98.3 58000 11485 1.120 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC 91.0 51.9 3.36 2800 98.3 58000 11477 1.120 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-33 112.0 68.3 4.43 2794 88.1 49138 13826 1.183
Somchem S361 99.2 59.5 3.85 2793 95.2 58000 11647 1.118 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2225 112.0 63.3 4.10 2766 96.6 46869 13334 1.205
Hodgdon Retumbo 112.0 63.3 4.10 2766 96.6 46869 13334 1.205
ReloadSwiss RS 80 112.0 68.3 4.43 2742 87.6 46896 13588 1.208
Lovex D100 112.0 67.8 4.39 2739 84.1 55150 11733 1.134 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7977 Enduron 108.1 60.1 3.90 2736 87.1 58000 11168 1.111 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2218 112.0 67.1 4.35 2713 84.1 47751 13505 1.196
Vihtavuori 24N41 112.0 67.1 4.35 2699 80.6 50668 12102 1.170 ! Near Maximum !highoctane
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Much obliged my friend. Here's a pick of RL 16 and 154 gr SST
DrMike
Ballistician
- Nov 8, 2006
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One of my .280s loves 139/140 grain bullets. It really isn't particular what brand is used, it gives me sub-MOA with all of them. The other .280 I'm currently shooting, gives me excellent results with the 150 grain ABLR. These two rifles have accounted for many mule deer, whitetails, elk and moose. I love the cartridge.
