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Cartridge : .300 Win. Mag.(SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 212, Hornady ELD-X 3077
Useable Case Capaci: 80.322 grain H2O = 5.215 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.550 inch = 90.17 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-22
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.405% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-04.0 95 71.10 2822 3748 55949 11427 99.9 1.362 ! Near Maximum !
-03.6 95 71.40 2833 3778 56688 11454 99.9 1.353 ! Near Maximum !
-03.2 96 71.70 2844 3807 57438 11479 100.0 1.345 ! Near Maximum !
-02.8 96 72.00 2855 3837 58197 11504 100.0 1.338 ! Near Maximum !
-02.4 97 72.30 2866 3867 58966 11527 100.0 1.329 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 97 72.60 2877 3897 59745 11550 100.0 1.322 ! Near Maximum !
-01.6 97 72.90 2888 3927 60534 11572 100.0 1.314 ! Near Maximum !
-01.2 98 73.20 2899 3957 61334 11593 100.0 1.306 ! Near Maximum !
-00.8 98 73.50 2910 3987 62145 11614 100.0 1.298 ! Near Maximum !
-00.4 99 73.80 2921 4018 62966 11635 100.0 1.291 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 99 74.10 2932 4048 63798 11656 100.0 1.283 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+00.4 99 74.40 2943 4078 64642 11677 100.0 1.276 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+00.8 100 74.70 2954 4109 65496 11698 100.0 1.268 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.2 100 75.00 2965 4139 66363 11718 100.0 1.261 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.6 101 75.30 2976 4169 67241 11738 100.0 1.253 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 101 75.60 2987 4200 68130 11759 100.0 1.246 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 3% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 3% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 99 74.10 2969 4149 67615 11508 100.0 1.253 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 3% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 99 74.10 2891 3934 60002 11807 99.9 1.316 ! Near Maximum !
mjcmichigan
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Cartridge?sargeny1":2zlh9i4t said:
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DrMike
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Cartridge : 6.5 Creedmoor Hornady
Bullet : .264, 140, Nosler PART SP 16321
Useable Case Capaci: 48.162 grain H2O = 3.127 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.825 inch = 71.76 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-26
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-10.0 95 45.36 2597 2096 42176 11897 98.4 1.332
-09.0 96 45.86 2630 2150 43787 12007 98.7 1.309
-08.0 97 46.37 2663 2204 45465 12108 99.1 1.285
-07.0 98 46.87 2696 2259 47224 12200 99.3 1.263
-06.0 99 47.38 2728 2314 49057 12284 99.6 1.240
-05.0 100 47.88 2761 2370 50975 12359 99.7 1.218
-04.0 101 48.38 2794 2427 52980 12424 99.9 1.197
-03.0 102 48.89 2827 2484 55076 12479 100.0 1.176 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 103 49.39 2859 2541 57271 12525 100.0 1.155 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 105 49.90 2892 2599 59570 12563 100.0 1.135 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 106 50.40 2924 2658 61977 12598 100.0 1.115 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 107 50.90 2956 2717 64502 12632 100.0 1.095 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 108 51.41 2988 2776 67152 12665 100.0 1.076 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0 109 51.91 3020 2836 69931 12696 100.0 1.057 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 110 52.42 3052 2896 72852 12725 100.0 1.038 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 111 52.92 3084 2957 75920 12753 100.0 1.020 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 106 50.40 3061 2913 79014 11994 100.0 1.017 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 106 50.40 2712 2286 48113 12865 96.8 1.244mjcmichigan
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Happy Shooting!
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darrelldavies51
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Drmike can you tell me whitch nosler 130 gr head grope best with vit and witch n is the best for a 6.5x55 swiss
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DrMike
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I'm not familiar with the 6.5X55 Swiss, though I have a measure of familiarity with the 6.5X55 Swede. Since each rifle is an entity to itself, it is almost impossible to declare beforehand which bullet/load combination will be favoured without testing. In general, I recommend determining the purpose of the load (game (moose, deer, black bear), target, long-range, etc.) and making a choice based on what is sought. In working with newer manufactured rifles and bullets manufactured in recent days, you should have no difficulty selecting one that will work. After you have chosen your bullet, it is almost a certainty that you will be able to find a good load.
From you PM, I assume you are focused on finding a deer load. How did you lock onto the 130 grain weight for a bullet? Are you asking about VihtaVuori because that is exclusively available to you? Or do you have another reason for focusing on that particular brand?
I would prefer a slower powder for that particular bullet weight, both because of case fill and velocity considerations. I lean toward using double base powders in most of my cartridges, though single base powders will give you excellent service. I would be inclined to test N550 or N560 with that bullet weight, if it was available, though I would not be hesitant to test either N160 or N165.
I trust that helps.
From you PM, I assume you are focused on finding a deer load. How did you lock onto the 130 grain weight for a bullet? Are you asking about VihtaVuori because that is exclusively available to you? Or do you have another reason for focusing on that particular brand?
I would prefer a slower powder for that particular bullet weight, both because of case fill and velocity considerations. I lean toward using double base powders in most of my cartridges, though single base powders will give you excellent service. I would be inclined to test N550 or N560 with that bullet weight, if it was available, though I would not be hesitant to test either N160 or N165.
I trust that helps.
darrelldavies51
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Yes thankyou iam in England we are having truble with getting usa powders at the moment cos of brexit
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QL request Sierra ProHunter 2180,
308 cal, 220gn rn
3006 Springfield
I’d like to see the report which compares the powders.
Wondering if this can deliver a solid package at 50 yards or less. Hoping to get more than 2400fps with the right powder.
Thanks Mark
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308 cal, 220gn rn
3006 Springfield
I’d like to see the report which compares the powders.
Wondering if this can deliver a solid package at 50 yards or less. Hoping to get more than 2400fps with the right powder.
Thanks Mark
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DrMike
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Cartridge : .30-06 Spring. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 220, Sierra SPRN 2180
Useable Case Capaci: 59.800 grain H2O = 3.883 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 59250 psi, or 408 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 112 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
9 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26 103.8 61.5 3.99 2631 100.0 59250 11680 1.194 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 104.4 60.1 3.89 2602 99.6 59250 11758 1.195 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 112.0 61.4 3.98 2589 100.0 58341 11331 1.195 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 106.0 59.7 3.87 2588 97.3 59250 11927 1.194 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70 100.8 59.2 3.83 2585 99.8 59250 11379 1.187 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517 108.8 64.0 4.15 2583 98.0 59250 11764 1.185 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12 108.6 63.9 4.14 2583 98.1 59250 11747 1.185 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO 106.4 62.4 4.04 2581 95.8 59250 11982 1.198 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 106.3 59.2 3.84 2571 98.8 59250 11519 1.200 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 106.3 59.2 3.84 2571 98.8 59250 11519 1.200 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 106.3 59.2 3.84 2571 98.8 59250 11519 1.200 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15 109.1 59.5 3.86 2570 98.7 59250 11531 1.200 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR 109.1 59.5 3.86 2570 98.7 59250 11531 1.200 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60 94.4 54.6 3.54 2569 100.0 59250 10378 1.193 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 104.4 59.1 3.83 2569 97.6 59250 11514 1.187 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 110.3 59.1 3.83 2569 97.6 59250 11514 1.187 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213 105.2 58.6 3.80 2555 97.5 59250 11394 1.188 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23 109.1 58.8 3.81 2554 100.0 59250 10452 1.204 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum 106.0 63.6 4.12 2552 99.1 59250 11047 1.191 ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17 93.4 54.0 3.50 2549 100.0 59250 10304 1.201 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 93.4 54.0 3.50 2549 100.0 59250 10304 1.201 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214 109.1 62.5 4.05 2544 97.6 59250 11266 1.186 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905 107.3 58.7 3.81 2535 97.1 59250 11148 1.203 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62 96.8 55.9 3.62 2529 100.0 59250 10422 1.220 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518 98.9 56.3 3.65 2528 99.8 59250 10698 1.208 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 99.8 53.6 3.47 2528 100.0 59250 10161 1.213 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 102.6 56.5 3.66 2526 98.6 59250 10912 1.203 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 102.0 55.9 3.62 2526 98.5 59250 10837 1.195 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511 94.9 55.7 3.61 2526 99.9 59250 10621 1.209 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 98.1 55.8 3.62 2525 99.9 59250 10607 1.209 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation 108.8 61.1 3.96 2522 95.3 59250 11181 1.193 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 100.0 54.8 3.55 2521 100.0 59250 9839 1.216 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 103.3 57.0 3.69 2521 98.6 59250 10836 1.203 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 92.5 53.9 3.50 2519 99.6 59250 10599 1.212 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 92.5 53.9 3.50 2519 99.6 59250 10599 1.212 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP30 112.0 61.7 4.00 2518 97.1 53006 11779 1.256 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2 112.0 61.7 4.00 2518 97.1 53006 11779 1.256 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570 112.0 65.1 4.22 2515 91.1 51710 12527 1.261 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP 97.5 53.2 3.45 2505 100.0 59250 10124 1.218 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 94.7 53.3 3.46 2505 100.0 59250 10255 1.222 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 97.5 53.2 3.45 2505 100.0 59250 10122 1.218 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 100.4 55.3 3.58 2503 98.4 59250 10602 1.205 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 97.2 55.3 3.58 2503 98.4 59250 10602 1.205 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4 100.4 55.3 3.58 2503 98.4 59250 10602 1.205 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 96.9 53.4 3.46 2502 100.0 59250 10100 1.235 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 107.9 57.8 3.75 2502 96.8 59250 10711 1.200 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC 103.8 57.8 3.75 2502 96.8 59250 10711 1.200 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385 102.8 57.3 3.71 2496 99.2 59250 10450 1.223 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100 106.3 58.6 3.80 2490 99.8 59250 10205 1.235 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 102.4 54.0 3.50 2490 100.0 59250 9910 1.227 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780 101.2 58.8 3.81 2486 98.4 59250 10375 1.207 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 98.0 54.8 3.55 2484 99.4 59250 10240 1.219 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165 108.3 59.0 3.82 2483 98.9 59250 10204 1.212 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S071 112.0 58.4 3.78 2481 99.8 58508 10189 1.242 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904 101.1 54.9 3.56 2474 97.5 59250 10301 1.209 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 100.2 53.4 3.46 2470 100.0 59250 9319 1.218 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070 97.0 52.9 3.43 2469 99.6 59250 10044 1.229 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2217 112.0 61.1 3.96 2468 96.4 53927 10997 1.239 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000 112.0 61.1 3.96 2468 96.4 53927 10997 1.239 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron 104.6 56.1 3.64 2467 97.0 59250 10349 1.209 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 107.9 57.0 3.70 2461 97.4 59250 10125 1.212 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old 90.2 50.3 3.26 2455 100.0 59250 9363 1.241 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3 90.2 50.3 3.26 2455 100.0 59250 9363 1.241 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903 92.2 50.3 3.26 2450 100.0 59250 9283 1.241 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361 100.1 58.8 3.81 2449 96.7 59250 10113 1.220 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7 94.7 51.2 3.32 2448 99.2 59250 9850 1.225 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907 94.7 51.2 3.32 2448 99.2 59250 9850 1.225 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065 95.8 51.7 3.35 2448 99.9 59250 9660 1.230 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC 91.7 51.3 3.32 2448 99.2 59250 9844 1.225 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355 92.3 49.8 3.23 2446 100.0 59250 9289 1.235 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-33 112.0 67.0 4.34 2445 90.1 48432 12141 1.302
ADI AR 2225 112.0 62.1 4.02 2419 98.0 46402 11549 1.325
Hodgdon Retumbo 112.0 62.1 4.02 2419 98.0 46402 11549 1.325
ReloadSwiss RS 80 112.0 67.0 4.34 2401 89.7 46226 11954 1.329
IMR 7977 Enduron 109.0 59.4 3.85 2400 89.2 59250 9792 1.216 ! Near Maximum !mjcmichigan
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Thank you Dr Mike! Wow! Rl26 at 2600fps! Outfitter has cinnamon phase black bears coming in. Looks like 4 to me, all related to the same male. Two cubs in cinnamon with black face and a black momma bear. He’s excited to see the phase start to define his local population
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FYI, I loaded up the ladder test for Rl26 and 220gb SPH RN. Will shoot it soon.
Ql suggests 2600fps is doable.
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Ql suggests 2600fps is doable.
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mjcmichigan
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FYI, I loaded up the ladder test for Rl26 and 220gb SPH RN. Will shoot it soon.
Ql suggests 2600fps is doable.
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Ql suggests 2600fps is doable.
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mjcmichigan
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FYI, I loaded up the ladder test for Rl26 and 220gb SPH RN. Will shoot it soon.
Ql suggests 2600fps is doable.
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Ql suggests 2600fps is doable.
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mjcmichigan
Handloader
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Thank you again dr Mike.
Ladder test results.
Savage 3006, 22” barrel
Sierra ProHunter RN 220gn #2180
CCI large rifle primer
Remington brass. FL sized.
Speeds from Magnetospeed.
Reloder-26
55.3gn 2370
55.9. 2405
56.5. 2429
57.1. 2466
57.7. 2478
58.3. 2503
58.9. 2526
59.5. 2556
60.1. 2563
60.7. 2605
61.3c. 2611
61.5c. 2662, 2668, 2666
I had a little trouble with seating the compressed load. I’ll move to bump sized and adjust seating. The last 3 were a bit over 2”, using magneto speed. Will repeat without magnetospeed
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Ladder test results.
Savage 3006, 22” barrel
Sierra ProHunter RN 220gn #2180
CCI large rifle primer
Remington brass. FL sized.
Speeds from Magnetospeed.
Reloder-26
55.3gn 2370
55.9. 2405
56.5. 2429
57.1. 2466
57.7. 2478
58.3. 2503
58.9. 2526
59.5. 2556
60.1. 2563
60.7. 2605
61.3c. 2611
61.5c. 2662, 2668, 2666
I had a little trouble with seating the compressed load. I’ll move to bump sized and adjust seating. The last 3 were a bit over 2”, using magneto speed. Will repeat without magnetospeed
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