Quickload Staball

[jscore]

Hi all,

Longtime lurker, first time poster…..I was wondering if someone would be so gracious as to run a down and dirty quickload request for me. It would be greatly appreciated. Might save me some $$$$ and headache, possibly an eye lol:

.223 Wylde chamber 18” barrel
Hornady 75 hpbt
Lake City case
CCI #41
Staball 6.5 and Leverevolution powder
2.250” COAL

 

[DrMike]

Welcome aboard. I trust you will find what you are looking for. My QL does not list the 223 Wylde, making the possibility of a projection almost impossible. Also, Leverevolution powder is not listed as a propellant since neither Hodgdon nor Hornady were willing to release it for study. It was developed for specific uses, and thus unavailable for other uses.

 

[jscore]

Thanks for the quick reply Mike! If it helps, a 5.56 chamber can be used in place of the Wylde

 

[nhenry]

Leverevolution powder is not listed as a propellant since neither Hodgdon nor Hornady were willing to release it for study

I resent this. I have a bunch from my 30-30 that I was thinking about using for 7-08 but don't know where to start.

 

[DrMike]

I was aware that some have used the 5.56 NATO chamber for calculations. I was hesitant to do so for several reasons. Nevertheless, here is a projection with 6.5 StaBall.

Cartridge : 5.56 mm NATO - 5.56 x 45 mm
Bullet : .224, 75, Hornady BTHP M 2279
Useable Case Capaci: 24.079 grain H2O = 1.563 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.260 inch = 57.40 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Winchester 6,5 StaBall *T*C

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.0 104 24.75 2554 1086 41040 6185 93.2 1.272
-09.0 105 25.03 2586 1114 42640 6261 93.9 1.251
-08.0 106 25.30 2618 1141 44315 6333 94.4 1.229
-07.0 107 25.58 2650 1169 46069 6403 95.0 1.209
-06.0 108 25.85 2682 1198 47908 6469 95.5 1.188
-05.0 109 26.13 2714 1227 49838 6532 96.1 1.169
-04.0 111 26.40 2746 1256 51863 6592 96.5 1.149
-03.0 112 26.68 2779 1286 53992 6648 97.0 1.129 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 113 26.95 2811 1316 56230 6701 97.4 1.110 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 114 27.23 2844 1347 58584 6749 97.8 1.091 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 115 27.50 2877 1378 61066 6793 98.2 1.073 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 116 27.78 2909 1410 63682 6834 98.5 1.054 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 117 28.05 2942 1442 66442 6869 98.8 1.036 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0 119 28.33 2975 1474 69359 6901 99.1 1.019 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 120 28.60 3008 1507 72445 6927 99.3 1.001 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 121 28.88 3041 1540 75713 6949 99.5 0.984 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 115 27.50 2956 1455 66956 6742 99.7 1.031 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 115 27.50 2784 1291 55487 6733 95.4 1.120 ! Near Maximum !

You are unlikely to get that much propellant in the case to reach maximum charge. There are other propellants that may permit you to reach a case fill consistent with your use.

Cartridge : 5.56 mm NATO - 5.56 x 45 mm
Bullet : .224, 75, Hornady BTHP M 2279
Useable Case Capaci: 24.079 grain H2O = 1.563 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.260 inch = 57.40 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 61500 psi, or 424 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Accurate 2495 106.2 23.1 1.49 2949 100.0 61500 6562 1.096 ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Match Rifle 106.2 24.3 1.57 2946 99.9 61500 6809 1.079 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.6 106.2 24.3 1.57 2946 99.9 61500 6809 1.079 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2520 103.8 24.3 1.57 2946 99.9 61500 6809 1.079 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380 110.0 24.9 1.62 2927 96.2 61365 7172 1.078 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old 110.0 24.7 1.60 2916 98.6 57996 7126 1.102 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3 110.0 24.7 1.60 2916 98.6 57996 7126 1.102 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2460 98.8 23.6 1.53 2899 99.6 61500 6605 1.091 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.5 99.1 23.6 1.53 2899 99.6 61500 6605 1.091 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064 110.0 23.9 1.55 2897 100.0 56684 6801 1.131 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R901 104.6 22.1 1.43 2896 99.9 61500 6527 1.098 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 110.0 25.8 1.67 2863 91.7 54707 7311 1.114 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 110.0 25.8 1.67 2863 91.7 54707 7311 1.114 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355 110.0 23.9 1.55 2843 97.6 54519 6924 1.133 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC 110.0 24.8 1.60 2841 92.0 59800 6832 1.099 ! Near Maximum !

 

[desertcj]

I resent this. I have a bunch from my 30-30 that I was thinking about using for 7-08 but don't know where to start.

Use CFE223 data...I'm about to do just that with 120gr TTSX in my 7mm-08.

 

[nhenry]

Use CFE223 data...I'm about to do just that with 120gr TTSX in my 7mm-08.

That's the exact bullet I'm going to be using. Let me know how that goes

 

[desertcj]

That's the exact bullet I'm going to be using. Let me know how that goes

I have an ongoing thread about my 7mm-08 going. I posted on it a few days ago. I update it when I have data to add...